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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2011 14:29:56 GMT -5
How come whenever a former WWE wrestler who actually WORKED for WWE comes out and says how crappy it is there, everyome instantly says "Well it's just cause he's bitter!" It's like people pretend that working there is the greatest thimg ever amd they refuse to accept that just maybe it's not. What former WWE wrestler is saying how crappy it is to work there? I see Chavo saying he wasn't happy about how he was handled at times, but other than that he makes no comments on the actual working conditions or that WWE is a crappy place to work. You're saying that, but Chavo's not. He's just saying he disagreed with creative's use of him.
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Allie Kitsune
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jul 21, 2011 14:35:48 GMT -5
That because WWE dropped the ball on him. He certainly does have the talent, but WWE decided not to push him, but make him a jobber's jobber. He kept quiet for a long time, probably because he needed the money. He has all the right in the world to speak out about everythings that's wrong with WWE. I somehow hope that Vince is really gone and Triple H/Steph screw up royally. A less powerful WWE is better for pro wrestling. Ideal would be if WWE, ROH and IMPACT were on the same level with less overpaid megastardom, a wrestlers union and more opportunities for a single wrestler to sell himself to different crowds. Sorry, if I just got too political. Chavito has never had the charisma to be anything more than a mid-carder. Why he could never translate well from WCW to WWE without working with Rey, Eddie, and Benoit is a mystery, since he now had some of the greatest (Malenko, Steamboat, AA, Finlay, Windham, etc.) advising him on putting together matches. That he couldn't have great matches without working with three of the greatest in-ring performers of all-time is really all you need to know about him. Some people just plain aren't likable and never will be, no matter how hard they try.
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Post by Massive G on Jul 21, 2011 14:51:41 GMT -5
How come whenever a former WWE wrestler who actually WORKED for WWE comes out and says how crappy it is there, everyome instantly says "Well it's just cause he's bitter!" It's like people pretend that working there is the greatest thimg ever amd they refuse to accept that just maybe it's not. I would guess that its because it comes across as very corny, particularly in this case.
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Post by Zabel Zarock on Jul 21, 2011 16:13:57 GMT -5
I now understand why I don't read this section anymore. Despicable and petty? Really? Get the f*** off that noise.
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Post by The Ichi on Jul 21, 2011 16:18:23 GMT -5
I now understand why I don't read this section anymore. Despicable and petty? Really? Get the f*** off that noise. You forgot baldspot.
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Post by Zabel Zarock on Jul 21, 2011 16:44:33 GMT -5
I now understand why I don't read this section anymore. Despicable and petty? Really? Get the f*** off that noise. You forgot baldspot. Yeah I knew I forgot something. Seriously WHAT THE f*** IS WRONG with wanting to come up when they plan on doing a storyline centering on the death of a blood f***ing relative? And shit can't the guy be mad that people he feels he's better than get to come up and get real chances *Lets be honest Chavo never got a real chance to really move up* at moving on up?
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Jul 21, 2011 18:55:16 GMT -5
How come whenever a former WWE wrestler who actually WORKED for WWE comes out and says how crappy it is there, everyome instantly says "Well it's just cause he's bitter!" It's like people pretend that working there is the greatest thimg ever amd they refuse to accept that just maybe it's not. When you get knocked down you can do two things, whine like a girl or use the setback to make you a better person. Raven was horribly misused in WWE and really didn't get many chances to show off his skills. He was let go after a while. After getting released, Raven didn't complain and moan about it, he went to TNA, got some renewed energy and had what is arguably one of the greatest feuds and one of the greatest matches in TNA history. Same thing with Steve Austin after WCW, you have to make the best of a bad situation. So to see someone who was given chances but never caught on (and Chavo was given many more chances than most ever get) I see him as someone who is better and not man enough to look at himself in the mirror.
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Post by molson5 on Jul 21, 2011 19:03:11 GMT -5
You forgot baldspot. Yeah I knew I forgot something. Seriously WHAT THE f*** IS WRONG with wanting to come up when they plan on doing a storyline centering on the death of a blood f***ing relative? And s*** can't the guy be mad that people he feels he's better than get to come up and get real chances *Lets be honest Chavo never got a real chance to really move up* at moving on up? What would you have considered a "real chance"? Guys in indies whose last name isn't Guerrero would have done anything for that run, for those opportunities.
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Post by lewis1711 on Jul 21, 2011 20:59:26 GMT -5
A talented wrestler, legit tough guy and extremely charismatic person playing a fake italian comedy jobber that once pretended to be a woman? No self-respecting person should do that. Santino really is from an Italian family. His actual last name is Carelli. Being of Italian descent does not make you Italian. I'm of Irish descent, but not born there - would it be authentic of me, if I were a pro-wrestler, to make ring entrances with riverdance music playing, whack people with shillelaghs, cut promos where i say "Tweedlee eeddlee eee potato" and celebrate victories by pouring Guinness over myself? Actually now I sort of want to see Seamus mock what stone cold does but use Guinness instead of beer...
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Post by hotshotalex on Jul 21, 2011 21:06:12 GMT -5
Now can people stop spouting that nonsense about Chavo being offered a World title push after Eddie's death but turned it down?
I don't know where that lie came from but it seems to be brought up in every Mysterio hate thread.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 21, 2011 22:23:17 GMT -5
I think this is the first time I've ever heard that.
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Post by Michael Coello on Jul 21, 2011 22:30:47 GMT -5
How come whenever a former WWE wrestler who actually WORKED for WWE comes out and says how crappy it is there, everyome instantly says "Well it's just cause he's bitter!" It's like people pretend that working there is the greatest thimg ever amd they refuse to accept that just maybe it's not. When you get knocked down you can do two things, whine like a girl or use the setback to make you a better person. Raven was horribly misused in WWE and really didn't get many chances to show off his skills. He was let go after a while. After getting released, Raven didn't complain and moan about it, he went to TNA, got some renewed energy and had what is arguably one of the greatest feuds and one of the greatest matches in TNA history. Same thing with Steve Austin after WCW, you have to make the best of a bad situation. So to see someone who was given chances but never caught on (and Chavo was given many more chances than most ever get) I see him as someone who is better and not man enough to look at himself in the mirror. Steve Austin didn't whine and bitch about his release in WCW? That was his first gimmick in ECW! And the difference between Chavo and Raven/Austin is that the showing off of skills of Austin and Raven didn't happen until they changed promotions, while Chavo was still stuck in his initial one.
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Post by Fern on Jul 21, 2011 22:44:12 GMT -5
When you get knocked down you can do two things, whine like a girl or use the setback to make you a better person. Raven was horribly misused in WWE and really didn't get many chances to show off his skills. He was let go after a while. After getting released, Raven didn't complain and moan about it, he went to TNA, got some renewed energy and had what is arguably one of the greatest feuds and one of the greatest matches in TNA history. Same thing with Steve Austin after WCW, you have to make the best of a bad situation. So to see someone who was given chances but never caught on (and Chavo was given many more chances than most ever get) I see him as someone who is better and not man enough to look at himself in the mirror. Steve Austin didn't whine and bitch about his release in WCW? That was his first gimmick in ECW! And the difference between Chavo and Raven/Austin is that the showing off of skills of Austin and Raven didn't happen until they changed promotions, while Chavo was still stuck in his initial one. Yeah, maybe Chavo will get over huge with his awesome promos on ECW. Except, he's not doing that. He's whining on Twitter in poorly written 140 letter chunks.
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Post by celticjobber on Jul 22, 2011 1:50:16 GMT -5
Steve Austin didn't whine and bitch about his release in WCW? That was his first gimmick in ECW! And the difference between Chavo and Raven/Austin is that the showing off of skills of Austin and Raven didn't happen until they changed promotions, while Chavo was still stuck in his initial one. Yeah, maybe Chavo will get over huge with his awesome promos on ECW. Except, he's not doing that. He's whining on Twitter in poorly written 140 letter chunks. He'll probably be ranting about how crappy he was treated in WWE to a much larger audience whenever he debuts in TNA.
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Post by Rican on Jul 22, 2011 2:27:22 GMT -5
How come whenever a former WWE wrestler who actually WORKED for WWE comes out and says how crappy it is there, everyome instantly says "Well it's just cause he's bitter!" It's like people pretend that working there is the greatest thimg ever amd they refuse to accept that just maybe it's not. Completely and utterly false. MVP came out after his release talking about how unhappy he was there and what it was like, and no one calls him bitter. And if anything, MVP was way more talented and popular than Chavo so he has way more of a gripe. The only difference is MVP went on to wrestle in Japan and moved on with his life instead of complaining all the time.
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Post by lewis1711 on Jul 22, 2011 2:54:08 GMT -5
The only difference is MVP went on to wrestle in Japan and moved on with his life instead of complaining all the time. I don't think chavo is legally allowed to work anywhere else yet.. don't WWE contracts have a 3 month no-compete clause or something?
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Post by Fern on Jul 22, 2011 2:59:07 GMT -5
Yeah, maybe Chavo will get over huge with his awesome promos on ECW. Except, he's not doing that. He's whining on Twitter in poorly written 140 letter chunks. He'll probably be ranting about how crappy he was treated in WWE to a much larger audience whenever he debuts in TNA. How revolutionary!
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Post by Session Moth is over on Jul 22, 2011 2:59:23 GMT -5
I'm of Irish descent, but not born there - would it be authentic of me, if I were a pro-wrestler, to make ring entrances with riverdance music playing, whack people with shillelaghs, cut promos where i say "Tweedlee eeddlee eee potato" and celebrate victories by pouring Guinness over myself? It wouldn't be authentic of you to do that even if you were Irish.
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Post by lewis1711 on Jul 22, 2011 3:06:25 GMT -5
I'm of Irish descent, but not born there - would it be authentic of me, if I were a pro-wrestler, to make ring entrances with riverdance music playing, whack people with shillelaghs, cut promos where i say "Tweedlee eeddlee eee potato" and celebrate victories by pouring Guinness over myself? It wouldn't be authentic of you to do that even if you were Irish. Don't lie, when I went to Galway it was exactly like that give or take a few minor details
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Post by Session Moth is over on Jul 22, 2011 3:29:21 GMT -5
It wouldn't be authentic of you to do that even if you were Irish. Don't lie, when I went to Galway it was exactly like that give or take a few minor details Nah Galway is more full of hippies and street performers
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