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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2011 10:20:33 GMT -5
Am I the only one that finds it hilarious that Punk's ascension to mega star, is followed by a push for Beth?
As for the match itself, have Steph come out and Pedigree all of them.
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Post by FailedGimmick on Aug 14, 2011 10:30:42 GMT -5
Am I the only one that finds it hilarious that Punk's ascension to mega star, is followed by a push for Beth? That's actually the big reason why as much as I like her, I really can't get into Beth's recent push. She potentially unknowingly slept her way to the title.
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Post by Ryushinku on Aug 14, 2011 11:16:27 GMT -5
She's a three-time champ already, it's not like a relationship with Punk is breaking through the glass ceiling or anything though.
I don't agree that Beth needs to delay being champ because she needs to beat up more women on the way to the title - I think the problem remains whether she's champ or not. There aren't really enough obstacles OR title challengers in the division at the moment.
If this angle is to be anything more than a one or two month deal, they need to bring in more talent to the Divas division. But I doubt they will.
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Post by mrjl on Aug 14, 2011 11:21:51 GMT -5
Y'know, one good way to go with it could be to have Beth destroy Kelly, hit the Glam Slam, and then just walk away - she could explain it the next night as having been done because she sees a belt shaped like a butterfly with a lineage only dating back four years as being beneath her. It'd be an interesting direction to take the story in. it also wouldn't make sense. They merged it with the women's belt
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Post by anglarite on Aug 14, 2011 11:24:34 GMT -5
If they would have wanted to elevate Beth because of Punk, they could have done that without a plotline. Basically, win the rumble, turn heel, massacre Kelly. That would have left Nattie as a former best friend to feud with her and lead to a series of matches even Punk would have thumbs-upped.
Instead they turned Nattie too, and put the Kharma storyline on them. This is not just about elevating Beth, it's a story which has the possibility to shake up the whole Diva division. I wonder how much Melina and Gail's leaving actually accelerated this plotline, but for some reason they decided to go with.
Also, if they were looking for the best possible match for the Summerslam, Beth was the natural choice.
And about who could take the belt off Beth, it would be hilarious if she and Nattie would go into a friendly competion each PPV and occasionally trade the belt between themselves for a couple years.
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Post by Protest the Chris Hero on Aug 14, 2011 11:35:05 GMT -5
Kelly winning defeats the purpose of the angle. And NO ONE buys K2 beating Beth Phoenix without cheating. It's almost be better to go that route and have the 'Princess Divas' be the villains while the D.O.D go around wiping them out. It's what people want. Then if Karmas done getting knocked up, and popping kids out, they can hopefully go Beth/Karma at Mania
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Post by anglarite on Aug 14, 2011 11:39:23 GMT -5
Ack. That bit about Kharma was not nice.
And am I the only one who noticed that the audience refuses to boo Beth and Nattie?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2011 11:43:12 GMT -5
Ack. That bit about Kharma was not nice. And am I the only one who noticed that the audience refuses to boo Beth and Nattie? Most of the audience refuses to react, period.
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Post by PKO on Aug 14, 2011 11:48:49 GMT -5
My fantasy booking:
Beth (with Nattie by her side) destroys Kelly tonight and takes the belt. Kelly has a few moments where she builds momentum during the match, but screws herself by spanking Beth which makes Beth snap and is the turning point of the match.
In the weeks leading up to NoC: Beth beats Eve in a match; again she snaps when Eve goes for her "sexy" move, the booty pop moonsault, and promptly destroys her. Beth dominates the entire division, beating up the "model wrestlers" regardless of it they're face or heel. During a backstage segment, the model wrestlers decide that if one of them is going to beat Beth for the title they need to take the competition more seriously. Kelly gets a bit of momentum going into Noc (when she gets her rematch) by beating one of the Bella's.
At Night of Champions Kelly gives Beth more of a run for her money, but Beth still comes out on top.
Going Forward: Beth (and Nattie) continue to dominate the division. Beth has something of a "rotating challenger" system with regards to PPV matches, with AJ and the debuting Naomi getting mini-feuds with the Divas of Doom. The Divas begin to get more time in the ring to show what they can really do (I know, I know! But it's fantasy booking!). The Divas start to give Beth a run for her money, and eventually Beth turns on Natalya (turning Nattie face) leading to a feud between the two of them with Nattie being able to take the title off her.
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Post by e1987p on Aug 14, 2011 11:54:33 GMT -5
Am I the only one that finds it hilarious that Punk's ascension to mega star, is followed by a push for Beth? That's actually the big reason why as much as I like her, I really can't get into Beth's recent push. She potentially unknowingly slept her way to the title. I disagree. WWE has always care about Beth because if they don’t care Beth would be already a jobber. Beth would have received a push regardless the current situation ( feud with Kharma, but everyone knows what happened ). Beth was out near 7 months for injury.Now after 8 months from her come back ,Beth finally will have a title match.She deserves this push.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2011 11:56:59 GMT -5
Beth's PPV matches during her last heel run were crowd killers at near McCool-like levels, so I hope WWE has learned their lesson from that and lays out the matches a little differently this time so that people will actually care.
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Post by corndog on Aug 14, 2011 12:00:15 GMT -5
The best solution I can think of is calling Naomi to the main roster. At the least, you'd have a competent face diva who hasn't either been tainted by bad matches or a bad win-loss record, particularly against either Beth or Natalya. Also, the lack of coverage would make her a believable opponent for them, since few in the audience would know what to expect. That, or retool Eve and build the Chickbusters into more competitive opponents, but that's not likely to happen. This might make sense, girls like Kelly-Kelly/AJ really aren't buyable to beat Beth in a clean fight. Naomi is a little bigger and much more athletic, she could atleast make it seem realistic. Also I could see Naomi actually getting over with the crowd, she did on NXT and nobody else did. It would be a nice way to bring her up to the WWE.
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Post by Magician under the moonlight on Aug 14, 2011 12:05:32 GMT -5
The best solution I can think of is calling Naomi to the main roster. At the least, you'd have a competent face diva who hasn't either been tainted by bad matches or a bad win-loss record, particularly against either Beth or Natalya. Also, the lack of coverage would make her a believable opponent for them, since few in the audience would know what to expect. That, or retool Eve and build the Chickbusters into more competitive opponents, but that's not likely to happen. This might make sense, girls like Kelly-Kelly/AJ really aren't buyable to beat Beth in a clean fight. Naomi is a little bigger and much more athletic, she could atleast make it seem realistic. Also I could see Naomi actually getting over with the crowd, she did on NXT and nobody else did. It would be a nice way to bring her up to the WWE. I actually can picture AJ beating Beth, only due to her agility. Then again, that is just me. Also, if they wanr to make Kelly look like a competent wrestler, that's fine with me. However, Ijust don't see how they are going to do it without making Beth look bad. I just think if Kelly wins in any way, there is going to be a huge backlash among fans. Ack. That bit about Kharma was not nice. And am I the only one who noticed that the audience refuses to boo Beth and Nattie? Most of the audience refuses to react, period. Beth did get a reaction for her promo on Monday, which was more positive.
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Post by Protest the Chris Hero on Aug 14, 2011 12:07:32 GMT -5
Ack. That bit about Kharma was not nice. And am I the only one who noticed that the audience refuses to boo Beth and Nattie? Hey, condoms are made for a reason. I'm glad she's going to start a family but when you just land your dream job, you decide to go and get knocked up by your developmental boyfriend. Sorry but that's just not too bright. She essentially committed career suicide. But on a bright note, congrats to the future new family
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Post by percymania on Aug 14, 2011 12:08:04 GMT -5
Gee if only they had some good female wrestlers like Gail Kim and Melina on their active roster... >_>
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Post by percymania on Aug 14, 2011 12:11:22 GMT -5
And am I the only one who noticed that the audience refuses to boo Beth and Nattie? lol yeah. The Divas of Doom is one of the most badass ideas ever. How CAN you boo that?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2011 12:11:33 GMT -5
This might make sense, girls like Kelly-Kelly/AJ really aren't buyable to beat Beth in a clean fight. Naomi is a little bigger and much more athletic, she could atleast make it seem realistic. Also I could see Naomi actually getting over with the crowd, she did on NXT and nobody else did. It would be a nice way to bring her up to the WWE. I actually can picture AJ beating Beth, only due to her agility. Then again, that is just me. Also, if they wanr to make Kelly look like a competent wrestler, that's fine with me. However, Ijust don't see how they are going to do it without making Beth look bad. I just think if Kelly wins in any way, there is going to be a huge backlash among fans. Most of the audience refuses to react, period. Beth did get a reaction for her promo on Monday, which was more positive.[/quote] That's why I said most of the audience. Some people care, but a larger number does not.
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Post by anglarite on Aug 14, 2011 12:15:10 GMT -5
Gee, if this could be a storyline leading to strengthening the women's division with the likes of Ayako Hamada, Aya Kong or Sara del Rey, who can then legitimately try to stop the Divas of Doom.
Seriously, WWE is trying to improve hard by getting the best of the indies. They landed Danielson, Mistico and Awesome Kong. There are news of Colt Cabana and the Kings of Wrestling following soon. Maybe they using this plot to actually see how much the audience cares about good female wrestlers so they could hire some of those too? (remember, no matter how this plot progresses, sooner or later there will be a peaceful co-existing of wrestlers and models)
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Post by Magician under the moonlight on Aug 14, 2011 12:21:58 GMT -5
Gee, if this could be a storyline leading to strengthening the women's division with the likes of Ayako Hamada, Aya Kong or Sara del Rey, who can then legitimately try to stop the Divas of Doom. Seriously, WWE is trying to improve hard by getting the best of the indies. They landed Danielson, Mistico and Awesome Kong. There are news of Colt Cabana and the Kings of Wrestling following soon. Maybe they using this plot to actually see how much the audience cares about good female wrestlers so they could hire some of those too? (remember, no matter how this plot progresses, sooner or later there will be a peaceful co-existing of wrestlers and models) I know it's keyfabe, but it does seem that everything is changine ever since HHH is in charge. looks like he is putting things back the way it is suppose to be. Unless that's just what he waqnts to make us believe.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Aug 14, 2011 12:31:55 GMT -5
Beth should win and steamroll the division until Kharma comes back. Then have her take out Natalya to send a message to Beth, to set up the Diva rivalry I've been wanting to see since they were still in separate feds.
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