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Post by sunnytaker on Aug 14, 2011 12:36:05 GMT -5
i'm going with the Kelly wins by DQ route. Beth dominates most of the match, Kelly gets in a little offense, Beth gets upset and starts choking her out, doesn;t break before the five count, DQ- Glam Slam. Eve tries to return the favor from RAW and gets Sharpshootered. someone new debuts on RAW the next night to try and stop them.
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Aug 14, 2011 13:00:17 GMT -5
Gee if only they had some good female wrestlers like Gail Kim and Melina on their active roster... >_> ...and Serena, and Sexy Star, and God knows how many other good wrestlers they've either released or turned away from even being on the roster. Hell, I still think they should have fought harder to keep Mickie James on the roster. Going one further, they could either try for Hamada or try to get Sarita to jump ship; both are amazing talents and both would be great Divas to court the Hispanic crowd, as well as Lucha Libre enthusiasts.
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Post by Piccolo on Aug 14, 2011 14:07:38 GMT -5
ETA: Oops, that's what I get for not reading the second page before I posted. Someone already posted something very similar to this. Kelly Kelly's story here is that she likes blending the quasi-degrading sex object stuff with the athleticism, while Beth's story is that she's a serious athlete and she's gonna reform this division by violence if necessary. So maybe you have KK do one of the things Beth named as being disrespectful to the integrity of the sport, and Beth is furious and either gives her a beatdown for the DQ or just walks out of the ring for the countout victory. Like, she won't give KK a legitimate contest for the title until KK treats it legitimately, but she'll continue provoking KK in non-title matches by beating up her friends, interrupting her matches to beat her up, lecturing her about how she's not a real athlete, etc. Possibly even Kelly's friends say something to her about, "Well, what do you care what she says? You're still prettier than she is, and if you don't wrestle her you get to keep the belt, and that's all that matters, right?" And Kelly suddenly realizes, whoa. She really isn't taken seriously, not even by people who like her. They honestly don't think she can beat Beth. So she buckles down and DOES quit the wrestling bunny antics, maybe does some of the training stuff suggested above, and she and Beth have a legit contest. The twist: Beth does beat her. But Kelly gives her a spirited, tough, gritty challenge that earns the Glamazon's respect, they shake hands, and Kelly insists that she'll win her rematch. Maybe she does, maybe she doesn't, whatever, but that's how I think this should go for a while, anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2011 14:31:18 GMT -5
I know you could never do something like this without a decent amount of build, but a "breaking the cutie" style of angle with K2 could at least work without damaging anyone terribly.
Have Beth absolutely annihilate Kelly at SS, to the point that there's a (kayfabe) stretcher involved. Mega Heel heat. Kelly takes a few weeks off. Then we start seeing promo vids of Kelly in the gym. Have her train with an awesome female coach. Cyborg Santos, or Gina Carrano, or something. Something to make her look like a threat, again. As long as K2's been with the company, I doubt her grappling acumen is going to get any better, so, instead, turn her into a pint-sized knock out machine. Taped fists and all. I say have her return at the rumble by costing Beth a match, and laying her out cold. Then you have a big blowoff at Wrestlemania. This is all assuming that WWE would give any time to build this feud, or that Beth could somehow make this look watchable. But, from an angle standpoint, I could see that working.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2011 14:41:24 GMT -5
Gee if only they had some good female wrestlers like Gail Kim and Melina on their active roster... >_> ...and Serena, and Sexy Star, and God knows how many other good wrestlers they've either released or turned away from even being on the roster. Hell, I still think they should have fought harder to keep Mickie James on the roster. WWE fired Mickie, so that's why they didn't fight harder. She wasn't asking for her release.
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Post by smoot on Aug 14, 2011 15:16:01 GMT -5
ETA: Oops, that's what I get for not reading the second page before I posted. Someone already posted something very similar to this. Kelly Kelly's story here is that she likes blending the quasi-degrading sex object stuff with the athleticism, while Beth's story is that she's a serious athlete and she's gonna reform this division by violence if necessary. So maybe you have KK do one of the things Beth named as being disrespectful to the integrity of the sport, and Beth is furious and either gives her a beatdown for the DQ or just walks out of the ring for the countout victory. Like, she won't give KK a legitimate contest for the title until KK treats it legitimately, but she'll continue provoking KK in non-title matches by beating up her friends, interrupting her matches to beat her up, lecturing her about how she's not a real athlete, etc. Possibly even Kelly's friends say something to her about, "Well, what do you care what she says? You're still prettier than she is, and if you don't wrestle her you get to keep the belt, and that's all that matters, right?" And Kelly suddenly realizes, whoa. She really isn't taken seriously, not even by people who like her. They honestly don't think she can beat Beth. So she buckles down and DOES quit the wrestling bunny antics, maybe does some of the training stuff suggested above, and she and Beth have a legit contest. The twist: Beth does beat her. But Kelly gives her a spirited, tough, gritty challenge that earns the Glamazon's respect, they shake hands, and Kelly insists that she'll win her rematch. Maybe she does, maybe she doesn't, whatever, but that's how I think this should go for a while, anyway. This is great. If I may add one note- the only note of the "I am exactly what the Internet Geeks say I am" performance John Laurinitis has given that's missing is the 'hiring models, not wrestlers' bit. Given how they worked him otherwise, he should be one of the "oh, don't worry- you're still pretty, right?" voices. Have Beth absolutely annihilate Kelly at SS, to the point that there's a (kayfabe) stretcher involved. Mega Heel heat. Kelly takes a few weeks off. Then we start seeing promo vids of Kelly in the gym. Have her train with an awesome female coach. Cyborg Santos, or Gina Carrano, or something. Hm... she should train with a guy. I was thinking about Gina Carrano being in the WWE as a cameo figure myself, but using her that way leads to the question "Well, if she's such the badass, why doesn't the trainer go after Phoenix herself?" If not a guy, then a woman who wouldn't be a valid competitor in the division as it stands now- maybe one of the Jumping Bomb Angels or something (for maximum continuity-cred. ).
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Post by thecrocksays on Aug 14, 2011 15:21:05 GMT -5
Yeah, WWE really should have fought harder to not fire Mickie. Because she's turned out to be such a huge draw for TNA/Impact. And, of course, a major country music star that has to beg her marks for money I seriously doubt Punk had anything to do with Beth getting pushed. She's one of the only credible heels they have, so naturally she would get a shot against their current golden girl eventually. This feud will end with Kelly winning. Just think back to when Trish feuded with Jazz and Victoria back in the day. Same dynamic. Plus, Kelly is younger and more over than Beth, so clearly it's designed to get her, and maybe Eve eventually, over. P.S. Kharma is never coming back. You think she'll run out on her baby as soon as it's born? She'll be at home caring for him/her for at least 6 months, if not longer. That will be almost a year and a half after WWE signed her. And at that point, nobody will care anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2011 15:28:49 GMT -5
ETA: Oops, that's what I get for not reading the second page before I posted. Someone already posted something very similar to this. Kelly Kelly's story here is that she likes blending the quasi-degrading sex object stuff with the athleticism, while Beth's story is that she's a serious athlete and she's gonna reform this division by violence if necessary. So maybe you have KK do one of the things Beth named as being disrespectful to the integrity of the sport, and Beth is furious and either gives her a beatdown for the DQ or just walks out of the ring for the countout victory. Like, she won't give KK a legitimate contest for the title until KK treats it legitimately, but she'll continue provoking KK in non-title matches by beating up her friends, interrupting her matches to beat her up, lecturing her about how she's not a real athlete, etc. Possibly even Kelly's friends say something to her about, "Well, what do you care what she says? You're still prettier than she is, and if you don't wrestle her you get to keep the belt, and that's all that matters, right?" And Kelly suddenly realizes, whoa. She really isn't taken seriously, not even by people who like her. They honestly don't think she can beat Beth. So she buckles down and DOES quit the wrestling bunny antics, maybe does some of the training stuff suggested above, and she and Beth have a legit contest. The twist: Beth does beat her. But Kelly gives her a spirited, tough, gritty challenge that earns the Glamazon's respect, they shake hands, and Kelly insists that she'll win her rematch. Maybe she does, maybe she doesn't, whatever, but that's how I think this should go for a while, anyway. This is great. If I may add one note- the only note of the "I am exactly what the Internet Geeks say I am" performance John Laurinitis has given that's missing is the 'hiring models, not wrestlers' bit. Given how they worked him otherwise, he should be one of the "oh, don't worry- you're still pretty, right?" voices. Have Beth absolutely annihilate Kelly at SS, to the point that there's a (kayfabe) stretcher involved. Mega Heel heat. Kelly takes a few weeks off. Then we start seeing promo vids of Kelly in the gym. Have her train with an awesome female coach. Cyborg Santos, or Gina Carrano, or something. Hm... she should train with a guy. I was thinking about Gina Carrano being in the WWE as a cameo figure myself, but using her that way leads to the question "Well, if she's such the badass, why doesn't the trainer go after Phoenix herself?" If not a guy, then a woman who wouldn't be a valid competitor in the division as it stands now- maybe one of the Jumping Bomb Angels or something (for maximum continuity-cred. ). Good point. Maybe you could get a retired boxer or MMA guy that most everyone will know to train her. What's Cro Cop doing these days? Hell, I'd love to see a backstage segment between him and Del Rio....
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Aug 14, 2011 15:39:16 GMT -5
Yeah honestly Mickie James is one of the most overrated female wrestlers I've ever seen. She botches practically every single match, doesn't do her finisher properly more often than she does, and she always wears the tightest jeans ever, which doesn't help with the people who thought she was big.
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Post by mrjl on Aug 14, 2011 15:44:35 GMT -5
I'd have Kelly win with some sort of a rollup, then have Beth and Natty flatten her and destroy the Divas belt. She and Beth are capable of have a decent match up and I can see Kelly as agile enough to avoid Beth somewhat
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Post by Piccolo on Aug 14, 2011 16:24:50 GMT -5
Yeah honestly Mickie James is one of the most overrated female wrestlers I've ever seen. She botches practically every single match, doesn't do her finisher properly more often than she does, and she always wears the tightest jeans ever, which doesn't help with the people who thought she was big.Agreed. The tightness of a woman's jeans is a clear measure of her talent as a wrestler.
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Post by rocket on Aug 14, 2011 16:29:07 GMT -5
Remember earlier in Beth's career when Candice beat her in one pay-per-view matchup only to lose the next one? I expect something like this to happen here.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Aug 14, 2011 16:31:49 GMT -5
Yeah honestly Mickie James is one of the most overrated female wrestlers I've ever seen. She botches practically every single match, doesn't do her finisher properly more often than she does, and she always wears the tightest jeans ever, which doesn't help with the people who thought she was big.Agreed. The tightness of a woman's jeans is a clear measure of her talent as a wrestler. No that has nothing to do with her talent, but when people are calling you fat, you shouldn't go and keep wearing the same outfit that's adding fuel to the fire.
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Post by Piccolo on Aug 14, 2011 16:46:24 GMT -5
Agreed. The tightness of a woman's jeans is a clear measure of her talent as a wrestler. No that has nothing to do with her talent, but when people are calling you fat, you shouldn't go and keep wearing the same outfit that's adding fuel to the fire. That would only be a logical response if you thought there was something wrong with you because they were calling you fat. Ie, if you thought your size really was legitimately "fat", then you'd change to suit them. Conversely, if you thought they were morons for thinking a woman your size was "fat", you wouldn't change a thing about yourself. If Mickie's a reasonable person, I expect her attitude was probably the latter.
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Post by Mac on Aug 14, 2011 18:06:44 GMT -5
Kelly doesnt need to do anything because shes the most replacable "supestar" in the WWE that being a lead female face. If she loses and pees herself in the ring my reaction would be LOL, if she wins or loses I'll forget about it during the next intro
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 14, 2011 18:55:43 GMT -5
Gee if only they had some good female wrestlers like Gail Kim and Melina on their active roster... >_> Gail Kim IS on the roster. She hasn't been released from her contract yet, regardless of what she says.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Aug 14, 2011 19:43:39 GMT -5
She could always take the baby on the road with her. Hell, she should go the Ricky Steamboat route and bring the kid with her to the ring.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Aug 14, 2011 20:20:02 GMT -5
Yeah honestly Mickie James is one of the most overrated female wrestlers I've ever seen. She botches practically every single match, doesn't do her finisher properly more often than she does, and she always wears the tightest jeans ever, which doesn't help with the people who thought she was big. Or maybe she doesn't give a flying f*** that people think she's "big".
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2011 20:25:32 GMT -5
Yeah honestly Mickie James is one of the most overrated female wrestlers I've ever seen. She botches practically every single match, doesn't do her finisher properly more often than she does, and she always wears the tightest jeans ever, which doesn't help with the people who thought she was big. Or maybe she doesn't give a flying f*** that people think she's "big". Everybody just has to confuse when Mickie James was curvy but unfortunately out of shape as "Mickie James was fat." Don't understand it, myself. She was way heavier in OVW, but she was never fat, and she was in great shape back then.
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