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Post by Tiger Maskooo on Aug 24, 2011 17:23:57 GMT -5
1.HHH/Y2J on raw in 2000 where jericho won the title the first time should of never been reversed. Luckily it didnt kill jerichos popularity. Really only the heel turn a year later seemed to. But still jericho should of held that belt for a while. One of the greater missed opprotunities in wrestling.
2.booker t-triple h at mania
3.orton-triple h at mania 25
4.christian-orton smackdown
and even though it isnt wwe. alex shelley vs austin aries for the roh world title at manhattan mayhem's finish still pisses me off.
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Post by MGH on Aug 24, 2011 17:25:12 GMT -5
1.HHH/Y2J on raw in 2000 where jericho won the title the first time should of never been reversed. Luckily it didnt kill jerichos popularity. Really only the heel turn a year later seemed to. But still jericho should of held that belt for a while. One of the greater missed opprotunities in wrestling. 2.booker t-triple h at mania 3.orton-triple h at mania 25 4.christian-orton smackdown and even though it isnt wwe. alex shelley vs austin aries for the roh world title at manhattan mayhem's finish still pisses me off. The thing that pisses me off about Chris/Hunter isn't even that they pulled that angle where he was stripped of the title. It's that he didn't win it back a couple of months later which you'd think the storyline dictates. It was over 18 months later when he finally got the Undisputed Championship. That's crap.
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Post by moneyman20 on Aug 24, 2011 17:25:41 GMT -5
Glad someone brought up Goldberg in the Elimination Chamber. Holy s*** what were they thinking? Goldberg was booked to be on fire, he was on fire, and then that happened. It was like they discovered how to book Goldberg, had everyone in the ring put him over (with the exception of Nash... lol), and then.... *plop*. And when Bill won it at Unforgiven, nobody gave a flying f***.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Aug 24, 2011 17:29:30 GMT -5
-Orton definitely should have gone over Triple H at WrestleMania 25. -Orton over Hogan at SummerSlam and possibly over Undertaker at WrestleMania 21. -Nexus over Team WWE. -Either Rhodes or DiBiase over Orton at WrestleMania 26. -Rob Van Dam over Triple H in one of their series of Title Matches. -Edge over Cena at Royal Rumble '06. Edge and Cena at the Rumble screamed of WWE having their plan set in place months prior, and just refusing to mold to what their fans wanted. Edge did what a lot of the "hot" stars can't. He brought them some killer ratings. I hate that they do that so much now. You're paid to be CREATIVE. If something pops up unexpectedly that the crowd gravitates towards and takes a real emotional interest in, why tell them, "NO, WE PLANNED THIS. WE DON'T CARE.". That drives me crazy. I don't disagree with the result of Edge/Cena. I disagree with WHEN it took place. They should have saved it for Wrestlemania. Instead the whole thing reeked of them forgetting about the MitB, then remembering in a panic and having Edge just use it up before it was too late.
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Post by joebob27 on Aug 24, 2011 17:30:30 GMT -5
Glad someone brought up Goldberg in the Elimination Chamber. Holy s*** what were they thinking? Goldberg was booked to be on fire, he was on fire, and then that happened. It was like they discovered how to book Goldberg, had everyone in the ring put him over (with the exception of Nash... lol), and then.... *plop*. And when Bill won it at Unforgiven, nobody gave a flying f***. And people wonder why the guy didn't like to job. All you have to do is look at his two most high-profile ones and how stupid they were. He got taken out by an old man sliding a sledgehammer in the ring.... after he had MURDERED Randy Orton, Chris Jericho and Shawn Michaels and blown-up Trips was hiding in his pod. Solid booking there. Nash avoids his wrath and Trips does nothing and wins. hmmm.
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Post by MGH on Aug 24, 2011 17:32:08 GMT -5
Edge and Cena at the Rumble screamed of WWE having their plan set in place months prior, and just refusing to mold to what their fans wanted. Edge did what a lot of the "hot" stars can't. He brought them some killer ratings. I hate that they do that so much now. You're paid to be CREATIVE. If something pops up unexpectedly that the crowd gravitates towards and takes a real emotional interest in, why tell them, "NO, WE PLANNED THIS. WE DON'T CARE.". That drives me crazy. I don't disagree with the result of Edge/Cena. I disagree with WHEN it took place. They should have saved it for Wrestlemania. Instead the whole thing reeked of them forgetting about the MitB, then remembering in a panic and having Edge just use it up before it was too late. Exactly. This isn't me dipping in to my anti-Hunter feelings at all, but there's no excuse for the main event of Mania 22 being Hunter/Cena and not Edge/Cena. I know they had the three way, but those two never main eventing a Mania, especially in 2006 when it was hottest feud on the main show, was sad.
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Post by DarBucks on Aug 24, 2011 17:32:14 GMT -5
Anyone who ever lost to Triple H should've won.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2011 17:33:10 GMT -5
Steamboat should have gone over Jericho at Wrestlemania. There would have been absolutely no mark on Jericho's name (he would have lost to four guys, five if they had given Rourke a chance to throw in a shot or two), the crowd would have eaten it up (remember how crazed they were over an arm drag and a skin-the-cat?), at it would have set the stage perfectly for the next PPV (Jericho shows a little respect, takes on Steamboat one on one, beats him fairly handily, and then can go back to crowing about beating up legends).
Everyone in our little PPV viewing party were just dying to see Steamboat go over and I suspect we weren't the only ones.
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Post by bob on Aug 24, 2011 17:33:23 GMT -5
Nexus losing at summerslam Hogan over Orton Hogan WM 9 HHH over Booker WM 18
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Post by joebob27 on Aug 24, 2011 17:35:34 GMT -5
Steamboat should have gone over Jericho at Wrestlemania. There would have been absolutely no mark on Jericho's name (he would have lost to four guys, five if they had given Rourke a chance to throw in a shot or two), the crowd would have eaten it up (remember how crazed they were over an arm drag and a skin-the-cat?), at it would have set the stage perfectly for the next PPV (Jericho shows a little respect, takes on Steamboat one on one, beats him fairly handily, and then can go back to crowing about beating up legends). Everyone in our little PPV viewing party were just dying to see Steamboat go over and I suspect we weren't the only ones. I really didn't have that much of a problem with Jericho winning. I mean Snuka was sad and Piper wasn't much better. Steamboat already had his WM moment but I guess it would be okay getting another one. That whole thing was getting trapped in a "how can we use Flair without using Flair" mess.
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Post by erisi236 on Aug 24, 2011 17:38:39 GMT -5
HHH over Foley at No Way Out, bleh.
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Post by fw91 on Aug 24, 2011 17:39:53 GMT -5
I don't disagree with the result of Edge/Cena. I disagree with WHEN it took place. They should have saved it for Wrestlemania. Instead the whole thing reeked of them forgetting about the MitB, then remembering in a panic and having Edge just use it up before it was too late. Exactly. This isn't me dipping in to my anti-Hunter feelings at all, but there's no excuse for the main event of Mania 22 being Hunter/Cena and not Edge/Cena. I know they had the three way, but those two never main eventing a Mania, especially in 2006 when it was hottest feud on the main show, was sad. true why not push up DX reformation and have a big mania return hardcore tornado tag against the mcmahons?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2011 17:42:41 GMT -5
Steamboat should have gone over Jericho at Wrestlemania. There would have been absolutely no mark on Jericho's name (he would have lost to four guys, five if they had given Rourke a chance to throw in a shot or two), the crowd would have eaten it up (remember how crazed they were over an arm drag and a skin-the-cat?), at it would have set the stage perfectly for the next PPV (Jericho shows a little respect, takes on Steamboat one on one, beats him fairly handily, and then can go back to crowing about beating up legends). Everyone in our little PPV viewing party were just dying to see Steamboat go over and I suspect we weren't the only ones. I really didn't have that much of a problem with Jericho winning. I mean Snuka was sad and Piper wasn't much better. Steamboat already had his WM moment but I guess it would be okay getting another one. That whole thing was getting trapped in a "how can we use Flair without using Flair" mess. Snuka and Piper were pretty horrid, but I'd argue that as Steamboat's wingmen, they had an important role. Would I have been so shocked at how well Steamboat moved for his age if I wasn't expecting him to pot-belly his way around the ring like the other two guys did?
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Post by Brickstone Kid on Aug 24, 2011 17:43:11 GMT -5
Basically every match between Triple H and Chris Jericho
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Post by klapaucius on Aug 24, 2011 17:43:27 GMT -5
Booker T / Triple H
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Post by joebob27 on Aug 24, 2011 17:48:04 GMT -5
I really didn't have that much of a problem with Jericho winning. I mean Snuka was sad and Piper wasn't much better. Steamboat already had his WM moment but I guess it would be okay getting another one. That whole thing was getting trapped in a "how can we use Flair without using Flair" mess. Snuka and Piper were pretty horrid, but I'd argue that as Steamboat's wingmen, they had an important role. Would I have been so shocked at how well Steamboat moved for his age if I wasn't expecting him to pot-belly his way around the ring like the other two guys did? lol, I never thought of it that way. "Hey, Steamboat's looking pretty good, but if we put these guys in the ring with him, he'll look absolutely legendary." I guess I could have lived with a Flair distraction leading to Steamboat crossbodying him for a win.
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Post by Cela on Aug 24, 2011 17:59:27 GMT -5
Any time Carlito won, especially with his roll up. Such a waste.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2011 18:13:24 GMT -5
lol, I never thought of it that way. "Hey, Steamboat's looking pretty good, but if we put these guys in the ring with him, he'll look absolutely legendary." I guess I could have lived with a Flair distraction leading to Steamboat crossbodying him for a win. Rourke jaws with Jericho, Flair distracts ref, Rourke cold-cocks Jericho, Jericho staggers into a Steamboat chop, crossbody off the top, 1-2-3, MSG goes plaid.
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Aug 24, 2011 18:13:42 GMT -5
Agreed with a lot of these, particularly Booker/HHH at XIX, Edge/Cena at RR '06(also agreed the blowoff could have easily main evented WrestleMania), Nexus/Team Cena at SummerSlam '10 (that blowoff should have been team versus team at Survivor Series), Cena/Orton/HHH at 24, and having Goldberg win the Elimination Chamber at SummerSlam '03.
Something that should be added: Lita/Stratus at Unforgiven '06. Maybe it's just me, but if the rule is "go out on your back," why couldn't Trish? Hell, have Lita cheat to retain her title; better yet, use her win as fuel for Mickie James to want to take the title off her all the much more. I don't get why they let her leave with the title if they were going to put the title back on Lita and have her put over Mickie on her way out anyway.
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Post by molson5 on Aug 24, 2011 18:24:13 GMT -5
I hate the concept that there's a "correct" outcome to any match, or a "correct" way for any storyline to go, etc.....That kind of kills the point of wrestling for me. I notice the wrestling observer guys are pretty big on this. Every angle has to go specific steps they have in mind or its terrible.
Which of course, is completely non-responsive to the thread's point, I admit.
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