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Post by Tiger Maskooo on Aug 27, 2011 21:17:39 GMT -5
You really think Punk is on Cena's level? Give it six months before you post some cute little gifs.
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Post by Big Daddy Bad Booking on Aug 27, 2011 21:26:28 GMT -5
Triple H beating Randy Orton at Wrestlemania 25. Orton could've been launched into the stratosphere as an unstoppable monster heel if he had won. Storylinewise, I get why Hunter won, but from a booking perspective, all that main event did was halt Orton's incredible momentum at the time, and maintain the status quo. There is only ONE way I would have accepted Triple H winning, and that was if Batista returned during the match and gave Orton his due. That would have led to a Triple Threat at Backlash with peaked interest.
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Aug 27, 2011 21:44:55 GMT -5
You really think Punk is on Cena's level? Give it six months before you post some cute little gifs. Cosigned for punks laughter
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Aug 27, 2011 21:50:10 GMT -5
You really think Punk is on Cena's level? Give it six months before you post some cute little gifs. Your terminaology was vague. The way you worded it, you make it sound like WWE haven't built anyone as an effective main eventer since Cena. An argument which is ludicrous.
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Post by Krimzon on Aug 27, 2011 22:22:42 GMT -5
I'm sure it's been said, but Booker T completely should've won at WM 19. Losing to Triple H killed him dead until King Booker came around.
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Post by thecrocksays on Aug 28, 2011 18:35:41 GMT -5
You really think Punk is on Cena's level? Give it six months before you post some cute little gifs. Your terminaology was vague. The way you worded it, you make it sound like WWE haven't built anyone as an effective main eventer since Cena. An argument which is ludicrous. When Punk can actually main event a PPV against somebody not named John Cena, then I'll admit I was wrong. Before the IWC blows themselves because "their guy" made it, just remember a bunch of you loved the Miz six months ago, too. How's he looking nowadays
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2011 18:42:18 GMT -5
Your terminaology was vague. The way you worded it, you make it sound like WWE haven't built anyone as an effective main eventer since Cena. An argument which is ludicrous. When Punk can actually main event a PPV against somebody not named John Cena, then I'll admit I was wrong. Before the IWC blows themselves because "their guy" made it, just remember a bunch of you loved the Miz six months ago, too. How's he looking nowadays What about those of us who love guys up and down the card instead of just main eventers? Miz is doing fine, just because he's not in marquee matches right now doesn't mean he's gone the way of Paul London. I love Cena as well by the way (whilst still hating his booking), but you are coming across as a bit of a troll.
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Post by percymania on Aug 28, 2011 19:05:56 GMT -5
Did anyone say Cole/Lawler at Wrestlemania yet?
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Aug 28, 2011 20:51:24 GMT -5
Your terminaology was vague. The way you worded it, you make it sound like WWE haven't built anyone as an effective main eventer since Cena. An argument which is ludicrous. When Punk can actually main event a PPV against somebody not named John Cena, then I'll admit I was wrong. Before the IWC blows themselves because "their guy" made it, just remember a bunch of you loved the Miz six months ago, too. How's he looking nowadays Excuse me but what I said was the argument that the WWE have not made a legit main eventer since Cena was ludicrous. I wasn't talking about Punk. And if you think otherwise then this man disagrees. And as for you admiting you were wrong? I somehow doubt that'll happen. BTW, Punk HAS main evented PPVs against people other than Cena but I don't think that's exactly what you meant.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 28, 2011 20:59:09 GMT -5
Did anyone say Cole/Lawler at Wrestlemania yet? I agree to an extent I would have been fine if they did the same thing at Wrestlemania only to have Lawler and JR win at Extreme Rules... and have that be the end of it.
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Post by papagiorgio on Aug 28, 2011 21:08:33 GMT -5
The biggest ones to me were Booker vs. HHH at Wrestlemania and Team WWE vs. Nexus at Summerslam 2010.
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Post by femmejomo on Aug 29, 2011 9:29:45 GMT -5
1. Miz and Morrison should have beat The Colons at Wrestlemania XXV and been the first Unified Tag Champs.
2. Benoit should have won the Fatal Four way at Unforgiven 2000.
3. Booker T should have beat The Rock at Summerslam 2001. Booker was one of WCW/Alliance's top guys and I felt like this loss hurt his credibility as a top player.
4. Alberto Del Rio should have beat Edge at Wrestlemania this year. I think it killed the roll he was on.
5. Zeke Jackson over Wade Barrett for the I-C Title on Smackdown. Barrett should have never lost it.
Also, I agree with the HHH/Jericho thing on Raw in 2000. I was so pissed when that decision was overturned.
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Post by kidglov3s on Aug 29, 2011 9:33:15 GMT -5
The Kid vs Razor Ramon.
Who is this Kid? He's a nobody! A HAMNEGGER! THIS IS A TRAVESTY! That ref should be fired!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2011 10:18:01 GMT -5
I get the logic behind Steamboat not picking up a win. It would've been cool, definitely...but looking at it from a distance, it's a guy who hadn't wrestled at all in 15 years against one of the top 5 wrestlers in the company. I took those matches to be more of an introduction of Steamboat to the younger generation. Like "Hey, this guy who's a talking head on our DVDs? Yeah, he's possibly the smoothest in-ring performer ever. Take a look." Also, I think he did pick up a win during a tag match on Raw, didn't he? I certainly get the logic there. But it was more a guy who hadn't wrestled in 15 years and his whole gang. Of course Steamboat winning clean would have not gone over well, but with plenty of outside interference and distraction, a surprise win wouldn't have been implausible. Having said that, yes, you are correct, Steamboat did get the pin in a 10-man tag on the following Raw. As nice as a WM win for Steamboat would have been, I think participating alongside nine of the company's top stars, and not looking out of place, was a suitable replacement 'moment'.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Aug 29, 2011 10:32:32 GMT -5
Umaga/fruity pebbles @ Royal Rumble. If the plan was for fruity boy to face HHH and HHH was already injured at that point why keep him champ? HBK coulda faced Umaga and I dont think he ever beat Umaga I'm quite staggered that you think Shawn Michaels v Umaga is a worthy Wrestlemania main event. In that case what does Cena do? Co-signed. Umaga vs Michaels is a great way to main event a Raw. Not the biggest PPV of the year. Not to mention the part where Cena/HBK was a fantastic match
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Post by FUNK_US/BRODUS on Aug 29, 2011 10:45:26 GMT -5
Michaels over Cena, WrestleMania 23.
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Post by The Punisher on Aug 29, 2011 15:14:42 GMT -5
Midcard against who though? The only possible spot for him would be in the MitB match. And that'd be a huge waste of the companies biggest star. I disagree. I think that would be fascinating. Have Cena have to start from the bottom and cash in, in true whitebread babyface style, miles ahead of the match. That's, of course, if he even WINS MITB. Also it would be a great way to put over some midcarders if he feuded over the case. He wouldn't have to lose to them for them to be put over, necessarily, either. This. I would rather see Cena go from bottom up, to give me a reason to root for him, than have him in EVERY main event, because even if he loses, you know he'll have a title rematch, or be champion again, by the time the next PPV rolls around.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2011 17:38:32 GMT -5
CM Punk vs Hardcore Holly in ECW.
This was when Punk was still undefeated and was clearly being supported strongly by the fans(for how long he had been there, at least). Then he just loses to Holly for no reason, with no build, in a throwaway match.
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Post by triplezs on Aug 29, 2011 23:54:01 GMT -5
No order......
1. Slaughter beating Warrior for the belt. I don't care if Warrior was a prick or poor worker, but the main event should not have included Slaughter. Warrior-Hogan II - perhaps you turn one of the two heel during the build up - or Warrior-Savage for the title would have been better. If you go Warrior-Savage, perhaps you can still have Hogan-Slaughter.
2. Luger not winning the belt off of Yoko at Summerslam 1993. Vince wanted Luger to be his next Hogan, but yet he only wins via countout, thus sucking the momentum out of Luger's push. I'm certainly not arguing that Luger would have been a great champ, but he would have worked out if he won the belt at that time.
3. On a similar note, Yoko winning the Royal Rumble in '93. Admittedly, I'm no fan of Yokozuna. Perhaps a Bret Hart-Savage Wrestlemania 9 main event? Maybe Bret-Perfect? I love heel champions but did not like either of the title runs from Yoko or Slaughter.
4. Booker T-HHH, Wrestlemania XIX: Reasons listed throughout the thread.
5. Don't care who he would have beaten for it, but Vader should have won the WWF title some point in either 1996 or 1997. He could have beaten Michaels at Summerslam in 1996 and then HBK wins it back at the next IYH. He could have beaten Sid for it or win the Fatal Four Way. Or, instead of wasting Bret Hart's title run on the freaking Patriot, you turn Vader face and have him feud with Bret shortly before Montreal. I watched very little of WCW when Vader was at his peak, but I still knew that dude was a bad man. This is the ideal monster heel and Vince and the bookers blew it.
6. Sid beating Bret Hart in a cage match shortly before Wrestlemania 13. This is obviously hind sight but if you make the Bret-Austin match for the title, it raises the historic level of their great match even higher.
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Post by Renslayer on Aug 30, 2011 0:26:07 GMT -5
^With #6, if Bret doesn't lose the cage match, he probably wouldn't have turned heel.
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