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Post by Michael Coello on May 11, 2011 18:43:57 GMT -5
Not trying to be funny. I'm deadly serious here. I honestly feel bad for TNA fans that have to put up with this garbage. Yeah, it's like those poor WWE fans who had to deal with that terrible Rock/Hogan match that one Mania. Those poor damned souls.
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Post by Beets by Schrute on May 11, 2011 18:46:40 GMT -5
*crosses fingers*
Please don't be for the title. Please don't be for the title. Please don't be for the title.
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Post by lionheart21 on May 11, 2011 18:48:43 GMT -5
Not trying to be funny. I'm deadly serious here. I honestly feel bad for TNA fans that have to put up with this garbage. Yeah, it's like those poor WWE fans who had to deal with that terrible Rock/Hogan match that one Mania. Those poor damned souls. That was back when Rock was still in his prime and Hogan wasn't a cripple.
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Post by The Ichi on May 11, 2011 18:50:25 GMT -5
Yeah, it's like those poor WWE fans who had to deal with that terrible Rock/Hogan match that one Mania. Those poor damned souls. That was back when Rock was still in his prime and Hogan wasn't a cripple. And people actually wanted to see it.
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Post by hulkblood on May 11, 2011 18:51:10 GMT -5
Not trying to be funny. I'm deadly serious here. I honestly feel bad for TNA fans that have to put up with this garbage. Yeah, it's like those poor WWE fans who had to deal with that terrible Rock/Hogan match that one Mania. Those poor damned souls. but that match was 9 years ago Hogan had a lot more mobility back then and his physical condition was a lot better than it is today I think it would be best for Hogan's own well being that he not wrestle anymore.
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Post by CJ on May 11, 2011 18:52:28 GMT -5
Not trying to be funny. I'm deadly serious here. I honestly feel bad for TNA fans that have to put up with this garbage. Yeah, it's like those poor WWE fans who had to deal with that terrible Rock/Hogan match that one Mania. Those poor damned souls. Not even close... nice try
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Post by The Cole Mine on May 11, 2011 18:58:12 GMT -5
Can we change the name of Bound for Glory to Bound for Retirement?
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Post by Michael Coello on May 11, 2011 18:58:18 GMT -5
Yeah, it's like those poor WWE fans who had to deal with that terrible Rock/Hogan match that one Mania. Those poor damned souls. That was back when Rock was still in his prime and Hogan wasn't a cripple. Can you really call someone a cripple when he can still walk? Just saying..... Really, Sting isn't far gone, as he's actually rested long enough to get more tough in matches and go full out like he did when he started. Hogan, meanwhile, wasn't as pristine as you might think, from all his injuries, and with the mixture of his training as well as him being out of the ring, it could be less far gone as we might think. And, really, if they're gonna cap off this whole Immortal/TNA thing, how else should they do it? Course, according to the posters here, I need to make my points with pictures and gifs, as that's the only thing they listen to.
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Post by Celgress on May 11, 2011 18:59:52 GMT -5
"Don't end up in a wheelchair!", indeed
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2011 19:03:25 GMT -5
What about Hogan's back? I thought he could barely walk anymore, let alone work a match. He's going to go all Baseball on Sting and have a Pinch Bumper, every time Sting hits Hogan the other guy will take the bump.
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Post by BigJerichool222 on May 11, 2011 19:13:26 GMT -5
Raising the bar, brother!
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Post by Fade on May 11, 2011 19:14:42 GMT -5
Wow.
That'll be some Impact during that Wrestling. That's for sure.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on May 11, 2011 19:29:53 GMT -5
That's just a ridiculous idea really.
Unless they swing it where Hogan has someone wrestle for him; that's just patently ridiculous.
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Post by dablueboy on May 11, 2011 20:02:36 GMT -5
no no no no no no no no no no no non non non non nein nein nein please for the love of god no. im a huge fan of both and i really do not want to see this happen
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Post by erisi236 on May 11, 2011 20:16:56 GMT -5
Sting I can see in any given situation, the guy is still at the very least 85% of his prime on a bad night.
Hogan tho, brother, that dude was barely able to hobble around the ring back scratching his opponent 10 years ago jack.
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Post by Threadkiller [Classic] on May 11, 2011 20:21:06 GMT -5
Well, it makes sense, since that's the only carrot Hogan has left to dangle in front of TPTB:
"No, you don't understand, brother! I can still make a ratings difference, I just gotta get in the RING, dude! Just you wait and see!"
And, to be fair, his tag match with Abyss against Styles and Flair did do a better quarter hour than just about anything they've done in the past year, ratings-wise (if memory serves - and it's 50/50 on whether it does or it doesn't, with me).
That said, I can't imagine this match would be anything other than a disaster. And that's an optimistic assessment. I'm sorry, but this is a man who, less than a year ago, was having MAJOR back surgery (wasn't it to have some kind of stimulation device placed on his spine?). He's one bad bump away (maybe one bump, period) from spending the rest of his life in a wheelchair.
He won't be able to do a single goddamn thing: not take a pump, not get whipped into the corner, not even whipped into the f***ing ropes.
I try to inspire optimism and fairness about TNA every chance I get, but I absolutely can't imagine this match will be anything but sad, if not embarrassing in its most cogent moments. And I don't trust the agents they have, nor do I trust Sting or Hogan, to be able to smoke-and-mirrors that match.
The angle could be great though. It could possibly even be awesome. But the match? Sorry. No buys.
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Post by 8.2.11/SAVIOR_NEZ on May 11, 2011 20:43:22 GMT -5
That was back when Rock was still in his prime and Hogan wasn't a cripple. Can you really call someone a cripple when he can still walk? Just saying..... Really, Sting isn't far gone, as he's actually rested long enough to get more tough in matches and go full out like he did when he started. Hogan, meanwhile, wasn't as pristine as you might think, from all his injuries, and with the mixture of his training as well as him being out of the ring, it could be less far gone as we might think. And, really, if they're gonna cap off this whole Immortal/TNA thing, how else should they do it? Course, according to the posters here, I need to make my points with pictures and gifs, as that's the only thing they listen to. I don't think you understand. It's not just about Hogan's physical limitations. It's the fact that of all the matches you could put Hogan in, considering he can actually work a match (I'm still thinking no), you're going to put him up against Sting. Out of all the big stars in TNA he hasn't faced, you put him up against a guy he's faced dozens of times in WCW. If you really want to see Hogan vs. Sting, track down WCW Starrcade 1997 or WCW Superbrawl VIII to see some decent matches between the two. You compared it to when Hogan faced The Rock. Hogan was still able to work and hadn't been in a wrestling ring for 2 years. Fans were excited at the thought of wrestling's past vs. wrestling's future as the WWF put it at the time. Hogan vs. Sting in TNA in 2011 is nowhere near the same thing. That, and Hogan is still broken down. It's sad to think that he may step in the ring again. He doesn't need to, it won't help TNA, and it will only further hurt Hulk Hogan.
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Post by Starshine on May 11, 2011 20:57:18 GMT -5
I love Sting, but this is such a terrible idea. Neither guy should main event their biggest show in 2011.
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Post by Savage Gambino on May 11, 2011 20:58:50 GMT -5
In all fairness, I've been looking for an excuse to use this image. I can guarantee you, that is the ONLY good thing that can come of this. Sting is in great shape. Dare I say, he's in shape to be the face of the company (which he is, right now). The issue isn't about HIM though, it's about Hogan. Hogan could barely move when he faced Undertaker. In 2002. Before he had to have major back surgery! Remember the night Dynamite Kid's career was basically ended, when his back ultimately went out, forcing him to go under surgery? Dynamite was 28, Hogan is 57. And Dynamite didn't PREVIOUSLY HAVE BACK SURGERY!! This isn't even about ratings or politics or whether Hogan needs the money; I'm afraid, in his current state, that if Hogan so much as takes a bump off the ropes, he'll end up paralyzed or worse.
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Post by Michael Coello on May 11, 2011 21:02:26 GMT -5
Can you really call someone a cripple when he can still walk? Just saying..... Really, Sting isn't far gone, as he's actually rested long enough to get more tough in matches and go full out like he did when he started. Hogan, meanwhile, wasn't as pristine as you might think, from all his injuries, and with the mixture of his training as well as him being out of the ring, it could be less far gone as we might think. And, really, if they're gonna cap off this whole Immortal/TNA thing, how else should they do it? Course, according to the posters here, I need to make my points with pictures and gifs, as that's the only thing they listen to. I don't think you understand. It's not just about Hogan's physical limitations. It's the fact that of all the matches you could put Hogan in, considering he can actually work a match (I'm still thinking no), you're going to put him up against Sting. Out of all the big stars in TNA he hasn't faced, you put him up against a guy he's faced dozens of times in WCW. If you really want to see Hogan vs. Sting, track down WCW Starrcade 1997 or WCW Superbrawl VIII to see some decent matches between the two. You compared it to when Hogan faced The Rock. Hogan was still able to work and hadn't been in a wrestling ring for 2 years. Fans were excited at the thought of wrestling's past vs. wrestling's future as the WWF put it at the time. Hogan vs. Sting in TNA in 2011 is nowhere near the same thing. That, and Hogan is still broken down. It's sad to think that he may step in the ring again. He doesn't need to, it won't help TNA, and it will only further hurt Hulk Hogan. The thing is, the way it is set up right now, and it could change down the line, no one else has had the set up for that definitive good vs evil clash as much as Sting has. Having it against RVD or Anderson or Hardy or Daniels or any of the guys he never faced wouldn't have that same drama for it, with AJ Styles being one exception. Sting was the guy who was brought in as the general role. I get the issues with his health, but it's hard to gauge with his recent attempts to get himself ready for something. Also, I think there is a reason for it and it's simple as this: Hogan NEEDS to fall, for the villain he is. He's Dracula in Castlevania, he's Bowser in Mario, he's the last guy that needs to fall. He's the guy who you take down while both armies of good and evil are busy dueling it out in the end. Just to have something new kind of ruins it. It'd be like having Batman and Joker dueling it out with the Arkham Asylum inmates and the Batfamily, but deciding at the last minute that Joker should be defeated by Squire cause the Batman thing's been done before. But, I might just be romanticizing this a tad bit, to be honest....
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