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Post by ________ has left the building on May 13, 2011 14:51:24 GMT -5
The thing is that Hulk Hogan and Kurt Angle say the whole company's name is changed to Impact Wrestling but Jeff Jarrett says only the show on Spike has changed. Mick Foley said last night the show is now Impact Wrestling. TNA needs to send out a press release and tell their employees what is up. Something so simple is made so complex.
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Post by Cyno on May 13, 2011 15:52:13 GMT -5
It's the sound you make when TNA's booking makes no sense or gets really stupid. "IWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!" Something so simple is made so complex. Just like everything else in TNA! Or Impact Wrestling?
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Post by babyfootball on May 13, 2011 16:26:26 GMT -5
Okay, we all know that TNA/Impact/whatever has often claimed to be the more wrestling-oriented between them and the Worldwide Leader, and with every step forward they've taken, they've backtracked fairly soon after. No need to belabor that point anymore.
I will say, though, on the positive side of things, I really like the general idea behind this move. I LOVE the new logo and color scheme, I think "Impact Wrestling" is as good of a name that I can think of (it doesn't bother me that it's not a three-letter name) and I think that most of the promos in that particular video were spot-on. You have to keep in mind that, at least of the ex-WWE guys, they were trained at one point to treat "wrestling" as a dirty word.
This doesn't mean that all of a sudden they have to start having nothing but 60-minute marathon matches, and if the storylines are still generally bad it won't make much of a difference anyway. & I don't think that Total Nonstop Catch-As-Catch-Can is what us "wrestling" fans truly want, and I don't like the trolls that try to paint so-called "smarks" (I loathe that term) with that same brush. Of course backstage segments and promos will always have a place in any successful wrestling promotion! But just for the sake of calling a spade a spade and not insulting the (wrestling, not necessarily casual) fans' intelligence (and I know we've said this before), it's a significant step in the right direction.
As a caveat, I'd like to add that I still think Hogan's dead weight, and I can't help but be a bit skeptical as long as he still carries influence. I don't see him as some sort of big, orange bogeyman as some people do, however, I think having him as a heel at this gimpy point in his life is just plain stupid, and have zero interest in seeing him in even a storyline-driven match with Sting or Flair or anybody at this point. The best way to cement this change would be for Hogan and Immortal to be finally, truly defeated by this "wrestling"-oriented opposition, and won't be completely sold on the transition until it happens, and Hogan gets his real and ultimate comeuppance.
If the WRESTLING side doesn't win out in the end of this angle, well, a rose by any other name would smell as sweet, and crap by any other name still smells like crap.
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Post by klapaucius on May 13, 2011 16:58:29 GMT -5
well, the video was great.
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Post by agent817 on May 13, 2011 23:43:46 GMT -5
Will the stuff from the past still be acknowledged as TNA? I wonder if it will be like WWE when they still call everything WWE (Though it's different when its former initials changed because of some Panda lovers).
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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on May 14, 2011 0:04:46 GMT -5
It makes sense to me. Keep the TNA name around, but use it less and less until it disappears without fanfare. It's an easier way to do these things than do a sharp rebranding (see: WWF into WWE).
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Post by EJS on May 14, 2011 0:37:29 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2011 2:45:15 GMT -5
What I find kind of funny if this is a move to play off of WWE's recent dropping of Wrestling from their name is that the word shows up on WWE programming much more often these days than it did before they dropped it.
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Post by Snowman on May 14, 2011 13:13:55 GMT -5
So will they change the main title belt to be the "Impact Wrestling Championship?"...ie the IWC?
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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on May 14, 2011 14:29:03 GMT -5
If you watched SD! last night you most likely got the new IMPACT Wrestling ad and what I found funny is Hulk Hogan is in it. YES! the main guy against The Network is in the AD! for the name change that THE NETWORK CAME UP WITH!
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2011 21:43:28 GMT -5
Everyone seems confused, but what seems to be happening is that it will start being Impact Wrestling with next Thursday's episode. Sacrifice will probably be the final TNA event, and it would be fitting due to the name.
Also, I'm loving the logo and that t-shirt is awesome. If the next couple of months back up the hype I'll buy one for sure.
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Post by clashofchampains on May 14, 2011 23:19:54 GMT -5
Everyone seems confused, but what seems to be happening is that it will start being Impact Wrestling with next Thursday's episode. Sacrifice will probably be the final TNA event, and it would be fitting due to the name. Also, I'm loving the logo and that t-shirt is awesome. If the next couple of months back up the hype I'll buy one for sure. The thing I don't get though is that The Network only control what's on tv, so shouldn't TNA stay the same on PPV? If that company had any cojones they would have all the PPVs named "Hulk Hogan Present" to keep with the storyline that Immortal and Hogan want to exercise their power on the PPV. Go nuts and be imaginative in that sense. Really think what having a Network vs Power-That-Be storyline means and come up with stuff. Like Hogan can hire who he wants but if the Network don't want to put someone on their tv show, there's nothing he can do about it.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2011 1:55:18 GMT -5
Everyone seems confused, but what seems to be happening is that it will start being Impact Wrestling with next Thursday's episode. Sacrifice will probably be the final TNA event, and it would be fitting due to the name. Also, I'm loving the logo and that t-shirt is awesome. If the next couple of months back up the hype I'll buy one for sure. The thing I don't get though is that The Network only control what's on tv, so shouldn't TNA stay the same on PPV? If that company had any cojones they would have all the PPVs named "Hulk Hogan Present" to keep with the storyline that Immortal and Hogan want to exercise their power on the PPV. Go nuts and be imaginative in that sense. Really think what having a Network vs Power-That-Be storyline means and come up with stuff. Like Hogan can hire who he wants but if the Network don't want to put someone on their tv show, there's nothing he can do about it. I don't know I think I'm happy letting this little piece of continuity slip. TNA's been rampant with power struggles and company-wide conspiracy storylines I really want them to settle down and keep it simple for a while.
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Post by Michael Coello on May 15, 2011 14:10:36 GMT -5
Everyone seems confused, but what seems to be happening is that it will start being Impact Wrestling with next Thursday's episode. Sacrifice will probably be the final TNA event, and it would be fitting due to the name. Also, I'm loving the logo and that t-shirt is awesome. If the next couple of months back up the hype I'll buy one for sure. The thing I don't get though is that The Network only control what's on tv, so shouldn't TNA stay the same on PPV? . Because PPVs are only about 12 a year, while TV is about 52 a year, and PPVs, no matter how good, only get a fraction of total viewership than a TV show easily gets. Really, there's nothing that Hogan can lord over the Network as being essential. Plus, it'd be hard to have PPVs be the same when everything that leads up to said PPVs has to be done on TV, the Tv that The Network will control.
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Post by Mister Yummy on May 15, 2011 22:49:44 GMT -5
I keep hearing that the WWE has dropped "wrestling" from their name. What does the second stand for now? When did this happen? How did I not notice?
I have noticed that they're, apparently, superstars or sports entertainers now instead of wrestlers. I notice that they almost never say the word on TV. I know about them cancelling a press release about Drew arey because it refered to a Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame. But at no point have I heard of them changing the company name.
Can someone please clarify this for me?
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Post by Cronant on May 15, 2011 22:52:09 GMT -5
Its just "WWE"
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Post by 01010010 01101001 01100011 on May 15, 2011 22:52:54 GMT -5
I keep hearing that the WWE has dropped "wrestling" from their name. What does the second stand for now? When did this happen? How did I not notice? I have noticed that they're, apparently, superstars or sports entertainers now instead of wrestlers. I notice that they almost never say the word on TV. I know about them cancelling a press release about Drew arey because it refered to a Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame. But at no point have I heard of them changing the company name. Can someone please clarify this for me? WWE is now just....WWE. That's it. It stands for nothing.
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Post by Mister Yummy on May 15, 2011 23:16:42 GMT -5
When did this happen?! How did I miss it?
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Post by 01010010 01101001 01100011 on May 15, 2011 23:54:11 GMT -5
When did this happen?! How did I miss it? Months ago and no clue
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Post by clashofchampains on May 16, 2011 0:32:37 GMT -5
The thing I don't get though is that The Network only control what's on tv, so shouldn't TNA stay the same on PPV? . Because PPVs are only about 12 a year, while TV is about 52 a year, and PPVs, no matter how good, only get a fraction of total viewership than a TV show easily gets. Really, there's nothing that Hogan can lord over the Network as being essential. Plus, it'd be hard to have PPVs be the same when everything that leads up to said PPVs has to be done on TV, the Tv that The Network will control. Sure it's easier for the company to be the same on tv and PPV but storyline-wise Hogan and Immortal could just say "alright then, we'll control what's on the PPV". Sure they could nix the TNA altogether but they could have something like Immortal and Hogan putting their stamp on the PPV. If anything just to make sure that shows like Sacrifice and Victory Road etc...have something in front of them for ownership issues. That's why PPV are not just "Sacrifice", it's "TNA Sacrifice". If the company really want to drop the TNA name, refering to Hogan(or any other idea) would make sense. It would be more interesting if they drop altogether for one thing. And booking-wise take it up a notch and say Hogan controls the PPV and it becomes its own thing.
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