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Post by wrestlegamer on Mar 14, 2011 18:15:06 GMT -5
Can anyone link to a time in the video where Hebner "X"ed? to alert that something was wrong? Just after Sting got into the ring during his entrance, Hebner did the X as Sting was raising the belt in the air (Hebner is behind Sting in the shot).
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Post by Supercheese on Mar 14, 2011 18:21:20 GMT -5
Jeff is definitely on something. I know his mannerisms are usually a bit out there but his eyes are a mess. He's staggering and the referee is rightfully worried about him.
If I was to guess what he was on I'd say Ecstasy.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Mar 14, 2011 18:24:18 GMT -5
Can anyone link to a time in the video where Hebner "X"ed? to alert that something was wrong? I'm going through it now to get an exact time. I didn't see it as I was away from the tv during the entrances and the intros. About the 3:01 mark. He's behind Sting, but you can see him.
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Post by Joe Galt on Mar 14, 2011 18:31:13 GMT -5
Jeff is definitely on something. Milk and cookies!
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Post by Gummydavidson on Mar 14, 2011 18:36:37 GMT -5
I think that may of been Jeff's last match in TNA. You would think about to become a father would be enough to clean himself up but clearly it wasn't <
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Post by Shazam on Mar 14, 2011 18:37:05 GMT -5
Well, after watching that...
Especially watching Hardy's entrance...
I really don't think this is a work. As debated, if it is a work, there's not really anything to gain from it.
Bischoff is really deliberate and oddly phrased with his wording. It's clearly not a rehearsed speech.
Sting is obviously annoyed. Annoyed at an unprofessional level. Which, if Jeff was zonked out of his mind, he'd have a right to act unprofessionally.
I really hope he's done. I really hope he's sent to prison on the 21st. I think it's the only thing that might alter his direction, because having a kid obviously didn't, and that's about as big a life event as one can get.
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Mar 14, 2011 18:39:28 GMT -5
It honestly is a shame to see what has happened to Jeff, if he wasn't TNA he should take advantage of the WWE sponsored rehab, its terrible what drugs and other factors can do to a person
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Post by Joe Galt on Mar 14, 2011 18:42:39 GMT -5
It honestly is a shame to see what has happened to Jeff, if he wasn't TNA he should take advantage of the WWE sponsored rehab, its terrible what drugs and other factors can do to a person What`s sad too is that many drug addicts don`t want any help, or if they do, they are powerless to get it.
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Post by Threadkiller [Classic] on Mar 14, 2011 18:50:19 GMT -5
My take is that there is about a 0% chance of this being a work. I watched it twice because the first time I was in utter disbelief. The things that stand out for me the most are the worthless no disqualification stip, Sting essentially forcing Hardy to lock up and then refusing to let Hardy kick out of the pin. That was surreal to me, I don't know that I've ever seen that. Plus, afterwards, Sting is visibly upset. I think the no DQ stip was set up on the fly to give Bischoff a chance to come out and slip the audible call to Sting. But even then, didn't they realize Hardy was f***ed up in the back before he went out there?
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Post by unoriginalalex on Mar 14, 2011 18:52:36 GMT -5
What does "op" mean? Or is it supposed to say "ok"?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2011 18:53:32 GMT -5
My take is that there is about a 0% chance of this being a work. I watched it twice because the first time I was in utter disbelief. The things that stand out for me the most are the worthless no disqualification stip, Sting essentially forcing Hardy to lock up and then refusing to let Hardy kick out of the pin. That was surreal to me, I don't know that I've ever seen that. Plus, afterwards, Sting is visibly upset. I think the no DQ stip was set up on the fly to give Bischoff a chance to come out and slip the audible call to Sting. But even then, didn't they realize Hardy was f***ed up in the back before he went out there? You would have thought that unless he was absolutely quiet and stood up against the wall. The way he stumbled out for his entrance was horrifying.
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Post by jadison on Mar 14, 2011 18:55:32 GMT -5
So am I correct in that the in-ring timeline appears to be: -Jeff gets in the ring and whatever he does or says something to Brian Hebner which is apparently crazy enough to causes him to flash the "x sign" -Sting is introduced -Bischoff comes out to figure out what's going on, and talks it over with Jeff and Sting in the guise that he's making it a no DQ match, obviously he was just saying anything to the audience that came into his head. -Sting decides that Jeff is too messed up to work, and uses his finisher to at least make it look like a planned finish to a match, and uses a shoot pin to try and keep Jeff from kicking out. I just watched it on youtube, and you've pretty much nailed it. Hardy's eyes were so glassed over, I'm gonna say there's no way he wasn't on something. When I watched it back, with the guideline of "at 3 minutes Hebner holds up the X", etc., you could really see how messed up he was. There are reports that he had an injury, so what may have happened was that he took too much pain medication to mask that injury. Either way, seeing him like that I got tears in my eyes, he just looked so lost.
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Post by Hammer Smashed Ball on Mar 14, 2011 18:55:34 GMT -5
What does "op" mean? Or is it supposed to say "ok"? Yeah, I think it was a typo.
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Post by kevservo on Mar 14, 2011 19:21:47 GMT -5
I really hope the rest of Jeff's week includes an intervention.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2011 19:26:34 GMT -5
The Hardy Party is over in TNA.
What a terrible time for TNA it has been since he's been brought in.
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Post by Michael Coello on Mar 14, 2011 19:29:29 GMT -5
The Hardy Party is over in TNA. What a terrible time for TNA it has been since he's been brought in. Yeah, with all that money made off him and his name.How horrible for TNA........
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2011 19:30:30 GMT -5
The Hardy Party is over in TNA. What a terrible time for TNA it has been since he's been brought in. Yeah, with all that money made off him and his name.How horrible for TNA........ Did they make money? Do you have the intimate details of TNA finances? I'm seriously asking because I want get intimate with TNA's finances.
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Post by comahan on Mar 14, 2011 19:30:37 GMT -5
From the tapings {Spoiler} Hardy was written out with Sting saying that Hulk ruined him by leading him into Immortal, and Hulk claiming that he just couldnt cut the mustard. So it looks like he might be done.
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Post by alabastergrim on Mar 14, 2011 19:33:19 GMT -5
I didn't get the big deal about the ring entrance when I watched the video above. It looked like his normal entrance with a slip up the stairs. "Typical internet overblowing everything!" Then that....uh...match(?) started...
I really hope he gets help. I actually loved the "Antichrist of Professional Wrestling" character and thought it was the best Jeff has been in a long time but the past couple weeks he seemed just...off and then that performance at the PPV was sad.
I am a little surprise they just ended the show instead of sending out a replacement wrestler for Sting and for the people who ordered the show.
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Post by 01010010 01101001 01100011 on Mar 14, 2011 19:35:41 GMT -5
The Hardy Party is over in TNA. What a terrible time for TNA it has been since he's been brought in. Yeah, with all that money made off him and his name.How horrible for TNA........ not to forget all the publicity by having him constantly in the headlines as "TNA Champion Jeff Hardy facing Drug Trafficking Charges"
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