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Post by Mayonnaise on Mar 14, 2011 17:10:50 GMT -5
I don't watch a lot of TNA, but has Jeff ever turned up for work impared before? If he has then wouldn't you think TNA management would be checking him the whole night during such a big show. Also he didn't look too good during his entrance so why wasn't this noticed before he came out? During his first TNA run he was notorious for it. It was a weekly game whether or not he would no show, show up impared or by a miracle sober.
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Post by demolitiondev on Mar 14, 2011 17:15:35 GMT -5
First, It's been a long time since TNA Forums had more Viewers than the WWE Forum but I noticed that trend all day. Probably the last time was when Angle jumped. So it sure gets people talking.
Also, I think Jeff wanted to say "Things are ok" on his Twitter.
Last, If TNA comes out and apologizes, they'll admit that they failed noticing a contracted Wrestlers Drug Problems. They won't do that.
So maybe we'll never know the whole true story...
Damn, Sting, please call Vince up, go into HOF, Wrestle Undertaker at Summerslam or Survivor Series, and write a book...
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Mar 14, 2011 17:16:18 GMT -5
I don't watch a lot of TNA, but has Jeff ever turned up for work impared before? If he has then wouldn't you think TNA management would be checking him the whole night during such a big show. Also he didn't look too good during his entrance so why wasn't this noticed before he came out? During his first TNA run he was notorious for it. It was a weekly game whether or not he would no show, show up impared or by a miracle sober. In his defense, he claims this was more a response to how TNA was using him then anything else. They had pretty much given up on pushing him (he hadn't really made a dent in TNA's numbers at the time), so TNA had decided instead to focus on more homegrown guys (I know, such a radical idea) and Hardy was usually relegate to mid-card stuff. At one point he was actually booked in a random six-man tag PRE-SHOW match for a PPV. He figured if thats how they're gonna treat him why should he even show up.
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Post by Abused Tampon on Mar 14, 2011 17:16:33 GMT -5
From Hogans twitter -
TNA star Hulk Hogan responded to a fan tweet that suggested the company get rid of Jeff Hardy because he has "problems that need to be sorted out." Hogan responded to the tweet by writing: "Brother, we're trying to get everything straightened out. I feel bad about some of the situations that have to be (dealt) with." To read more from Hogan, visit Twitter.com/HulkHogan4Real.
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Post by Hammer Smashed Ball on Mar 14, 2011 17:17:49 GMT -5
Damn, Sting, please call Vince up, go into HOF, Wrestle Undertaker at Summerslam or Survivor Series, and write a book... Don‘t forget a Sting DVD....that‘s all I really want.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Mar 14, 2011 17:18:17 GMT -5
During his first TNA run he was notorious for it. It was a weekly game whether or not he would no show, show up impared or by a miracle sober. In his defense, he claims this was more a response to how TNA was using him then anything else. They had pretty much given up on pushing him (he hadn't really made a dent in TNA's numbers at the time), so TNA had decided instead to focus on more homegrown guys (I know, such a radical idea) and Hardy was usually relegate to mid-card stuff. At one point he was actually booked in a random six-man tag PRE-SHOW match for a PPV. He figured if thats how they're gonna treat him why should he even show up. That really doesn't help Jeff's case, IMO, actually makes it worse.
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Post by comahan on Mar 14, 2011 17:19:05 GMT -5
First, It's been a long time since TNA Forums had more Viewers than the WWE Forum but I noticed that trend all day. Probably the last time was when Angle jumped. So it sure gets people talking. Also, I think Jeff wanted to say "Things are ok" on his Twitter. Last, If TNA comes out and apologizes, they'll admit that they failed noticing a contracted Wrestlers Drug Problems. They won't do that. So maybe we'll never know the whole true story... Damn, Sting, please call Vince up, go into HOF, Wrestle Undertaker at Summerslam or Survivor Series, and write a book... Ive seen people say op in reference to on point. So he could have been saying that things are on point. Just an assumption on my part, though.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Mar 14, 2011 17:19:06 GMT -5
In a way, I think this was good for Jeff. Here's Sting, one of the most respected guys in the locker room and a guy that Hardy respects, not taking his crap and embarrassing him on ppv because Jeff can't get his act together. Maybe, just maybe, this will be a wake up call, the fact that your hero and a legend in this business will not tolerate your unprofessional crap. Lots of guys have had problems like this and have gone out to perform (HBK being the biggest name) and the locker room leaders needed to control that stuff. This is no different.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Mar 14, 2011 17:22:08 GMT -5
In his defense, he claims this was more a response to how TNA was using him then anything else. They had pretty much given up on pushing him (he hadn't really made a dent in TNA's numbers at the time), so TNA had decided instead to focus on more homegrown guys (I know, such a radical idea) and Hardy was usually relegate to mid-card stuff. At one point he was actually booked in a random six-man tag PRE-SHOW match for a PPV. He figured if thats how they're gonna treat him why should he even show up. That really doesn't help Jeff's case, IMO, actually makes it worse. Well it kinda paints Hardy more as a huge egomaniac then an out of control drug addict. I suppose that's a step up.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2011 17:22:32 GMT -5
During his first TNA run he was notorious for it. It was a weekly game whether or not he would no show, show up impared or by a miracle sober. In his defense, he claims this was more a response to how TNA was using him then anything else. They had pretty much given up on pushing him (he hadn't really made a dent in TNA's numbers at the time), so TNA had decided instead to focus on more homegrown guys (I know, such a radical idea) and Hardy was usually relegate to mid-card stuff. At one point he was actually booked in a random six-man tag PRE-SHOW match for a PPV. He figured if thats how they're gonna treat him why should he even show up. What's funny is he wasn't a big star at the time anyway. He went from being essentially a jobber in WWE to being a big deal for a short amount of time in TNA in a time period where they really didn't matter one bit.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Mar 14, 2011 17:28:03 GMT -5
In his defense, he claims this was more a response to how TNA was using him then anything else. They had pretty much given up on pushing him (he hadn't really made a dent in TNA's numbers at the time), so TNA had decided instead to focus on more homegrown guys (I know, such a radical idea) and Hardy was usually relegate to mid-card stuff. At one point he was actually booked in a random six-man tag PRE-SHOW match for a PPV. He figured if thats how they're gonna treat him why should he even show up. What's funny is he wasn't a big star at the time anyway. He went from being essentially a jobber in WWE to being a big deal for a short amount of time in TNA in a time period where they really didn't matter one bit. A Jobber? Dude had a ladder match with the Undertaker, was Euro champ, had a program with HBK and was "dating" Trish Stratus... if that was a jobber, where do I sign???
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Post by Pervy Stone Cold on Mar 14, 2011 17:28:12 GMT -5
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Val's thoughts
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Post by Madagascar Fred on Mar 14, 2011 17:29:17 GMT -5
I'm just glad nobody got hurt...if he's hooked on drugs someone should really really help him
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2011 17:33:16 GMT -5
What's funny is he wasn't a big star at the time anyway. He went from being essentially a jobber in WWE to being a big deal for a short amount of time in TNA in a time period where they really didn't matter one bit. A Jobber? Dude had a ladder match with the Undertaker, was Euro champ, had a program with HBK and was "dating" Trish Stratus... if that was a jobber, where do I sign??? I mean at the time he left. Yeah, was doing big stuff before that, but then he was basically in the role of jobbing to Rico and occasionally falling asleep when he went up for the Swanton.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Mar 14, 2011 17:35:33 GMT -5
Language warning Val's thoughts I think that OMEGA dig is stupid. Most guys that went through OMEGA do a few things decently and one thing really well. That one thing? Selling.
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Post by Quote the Tozz, Nevermore. on Mar 14, 2011 17:43:31 GMT -5
Been watching the video over and over to analyse it best I can.
That pin is most definitely a shoot. You can see Hardy trying to kick out, but Sting just won't let him.
To be honest, the evidence against Jeff here is insurmountable: - The wacky entrance, where he trips over the stairs - In the ring, taking forever to do whatever he wants to do with his shirt (arguable evidence, he may have just been taunting them.) - Bischoff coming out, calling timeout, and clearly trying to change plans spur of the moment, off the top of his head. - Bischoff speaks to Hardy, speculated to be "get outta here after this" or something. - Sting is clearly peeved and says something to Bischoff, speculated in other thread. - Sting's neck. That is not facepaint, or it would have been a red smear from Jeff's face. The marks are deep and look very much like they are from fingernails. - The very quick (and very stiff) finish, and the blantantly shoot pin. - Sting's body language. As you guys have said, Sting is not a fantastic actor. His body language just screams he's not a happy Stinger. - Speculated Sting was dropping F-bombs. - On his way back to the locker room, Sting clearly says "I agree" in a very displeased manner to the crowd chanting bull****.
Something was amiss. I'm strongly on the side of Jeff was under the influence of something, or that match would never have been over in 1 and a half minutes.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2011 18:08:29 GMT -5
Can anyone link to a time in the video where Hebner "X"ed? to alert that something was wrong?
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Post by Black Swagger on Mar 14, 2011 18:08:30 GMT -5
Hardy looked like he barely knew where he was. You can tell Sting was pissed, he hit that Scorpion Deathdrop with authority. And the pinball was definitely a shoot.
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Post by GaTechGrad on Mar 14, 2011 18:09:37 GMT -5
What's been reported: - All that has come out from Jeff is a tweet saying, "things are op".
I agree with Hardy... Sting is too OP... he needs to be nerf'ed</WoW joke>
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Post by wrestlegamer on Mar 14, 2011 18:10:31 GMT -5
I'd also like to add that just after the pin, the way Sting was standing while Jeff Hardy was complaining to him and to the ref was clearly the way someone stands when he doesn't know if he is going to have to fight or not.
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