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Post by BlackoutCreature on Mar 14, 2011 16:43:51 GMT -5
I don't watch a lot of TNA, but has Jeff ever turned up for work impared before? If he has then wouldn't you think TNA management would be checking him the whole night during such a big show. Also he didn't look too good during his entrance so why wasn't this noticed before he came out? lol yes, just a few weeks back. The dirt sheets went wild over it, yet it was explained as "Hardy was tired after a long-haul flight" Let's not forget the number of reports that said that Hardy was definitely on something when he accidentally gave Anderson that concussion a few months back.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Mar 14, 2011 16:45:39 GMT -5
lol yes, just a few weeks back. The dirt sheets went wild over it, yet it was explained as "Hardy was tired after a long-haul flight" Let's not forget the number of reports that said that Hardy was definitely on something when he accidentally gave Anderson that concussion a few months back. Was there anything to that or was that assumption? Obviously, it's a fair assumption considering who we're talking about, but I have no trouble giving Jeff the benefit of the doubt and he simply just screwed up in a, um, medically unassisted manner.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Mar 14, 2011 16:46:20 GMT -5
I agree that the Cold Blood moniker is not working, but TNA could do worse. The thing is that with Hogan in kayfabe control, Immortal has to have a main event presence. AJ and Matt Morgan have already rejected Immortal, so they are out. Jarrett is buried deep in the Angle business. Hernandez won't work. Terry is not ready. Abyss is ice cold in the heat department. Gunner and Murphy are Gunner and Murphy. No one else already in TNA is in even a half way decent spot to be brought into that role. MVP might be available soon, but I think if he is to have an impact on TNA (should they hire him) it will only be as a face. Anderson would be perfect actually. Lately he's been acting completely obsessed with being World Champion again. I could easily see that leading to him turning heel and aligning with Immortal because he sees that as the only way to becoming World Champ again. He even has Rob Van Dam set up to be the next babyface number 1 contender for him. It actually makes way too much sense for TNA to pull the trigger on it. Gee, you don't think that Anderson has ripped off enough from Austin? Now you want to rehash his heel turn that led to his alliance with McMahon?
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Post by pacino on Mar 14, 2011 16:49:27 GMT -5
jeff hardy is a disgrace.
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Post by Session Moth is over on Mar 14, 2011 16:51:14 GMT -5
lol yes, just a few weeks back. The dirt sheets went wild over it, yet it was explained as "Hardy was tired after a long-haul flight" Let's not forget the number of reports that said that Hardy was definitely on something when he accidentally gave Anderson that concussion a few months back. Seriously all this and TNA STILL allow a situation like this to happen. It's hard to feel sorry for the company.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2011 16:54:03 GMT -5
Anderson would be perfect actually. Lately he's been acting completely obsessed with being World Champion again. I could easily see that leading to him turning heel and aligning with Immortal because he sees that as the only way to becoming World Champ again. He even has Rob Van Dam set up to be the next babyface number 1 contender for him. It actually makes way too much sense for TNA to pull the trigger on it. Gee, you don't think that Anderson has ripped off enough from Austin? Now you want to rehash his heel turn that led to his alliance with McMahon? To be fair, it's been a good ten years.
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Post by dlg3000 on Mar 14, 2011 16:55:26 GMT -5
TNA should have sent Flair out to challenge Sting after the Jeff debacle. Sting and Flair can improvise a quick match, they're both over and they have a legendary feud to play off of for 10 minutes or so. That is a great idea, but who in the IWC will say that they are too old to main event? However, looking at the circumstances of the match last night would have made this the best idea.
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Post by eJm on Mar 14, 2011 16:55:59 GMT -5
Gee, you don't think that Anderson has ripped off enough from Austin? Now you want to rehash his heel turn that led to his alliance with McMahon? To be fair, it's been a good ten years. If you want to get technical, it WILL be ten years very shortly so they can't do it yet.
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Post by comahan on Mar 14, 2011 16:56:13 GMT -5
Anderson would be perfect actually. Lately he's been acting completely obsessed with being World Champion again. I could easily see that leading to him turning heel and aligning with Immortal because he sees that as the only way to becoming World Champ again. He even has Rob Van Dam set up to be the next babyface number 1 contender for him. It actually makes way too much sense for TNA to pull the trigger on it. Gee, you don't think that Anderson has ripped off enough from Austin? Now you want to rehash his heel turn that led to his alliance with McMahon? A heel turn based off of being obsessed with winning the belt is certainly not unique to Austin. Its one of the simplest and most common ways to turn a person. Hell, thats how they explained Jeff's heel turn.
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Post by derrtaysouth95 on Mar 14, 2011 16:56:32 GMT -5
I don't see why TNA can't just outright fire Jeff Hardy.
Do a "shoot" a la Paul Heyman saying Jeff Hardy showed up impaired so they made him lose in 1:28. And that he won't be returning. Problem solved. Have Sting get in a rant against him as well for good measure and call him unprofessional and what not. Then they can apologize to the fans.
Also, wrestling has a 7 year rule...not a 10 year rule. So, that storyline would be allowed again. And I concur with the let Flair/Sting just improvise a matchup on the fly. Yeah they're old but it'd be a damn good matchup.
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Post by tamalesteve on Mar 14, 2011 16:57:07 GMT -5
The dirtsheets didn't run wild over any of these stories. PWI said Hardy was confirmed to be just tired(and if you watch his match he was perfectly fine) and the Anderson chairshot story came from one of those crapsites. PWI and WO absolutely never went crazy regarding these stories.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Mar 14, 2011 16:58:07 GMT -5
Let's not forget the number of reports that said that Hardy was definitely on something when he accidentally gave Anderson that concussion a few months back. Seriously all this and TNA STILL allow a situation like this to happen. It's hard to feel sorry for the company. To be fair there was never any actual confirmation that Hardy was high during the concussion incident, just a lot of assumption and some "insider reports" from people who wouldn't name names.
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Post by Abused Tampon on Mar 14, 2011 16:58:27 GMT -5
I don't see why TNA can't just outright fire Jeff Hardy. Do a "shoot" a la Paul Heyman saying Jeff Hardy showed up impaired so they made him lose in 1:28. And that he won't be returning. Problem solved. Have Sting get in a rant against him as well for good measure and call him unprofessional and what not. Then they can apologize to the fans. Please, no more Vince Russo shoots. Never ends well.
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Post by dpg on Mar 14, 2011 16:58:34 GMT -5
Gee, you don't think that Anderson has ripped off enough from Austin? Now you want to rehash his heel turn that led to his alliance with McMahon? A heel turn based off of being obsessed with winning the belt is certainly not unique to Austin. Its one of the simplest and most common ways to turn a person. Hell, thats how they explained Jeff's heel turn. Having someone go heel obsessing over the world title has been dozens of times, like most wrestling storylines.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Mar 14, 2011 16:59:38 GMT -5
A heel turn based off of being obsessed with winning the belt is certainly not unique to Austin. Its one of the simplest and most common ways to turn a person. Hell, thats how they explained Jeff's heel turn. Having someone go heel obsessing over the world title has been dozens of times, like most wrestling storylines. It pretty much turned Edge into a superstar.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Mar 14, 2011 17:00:23 GMT -5
To be fair, it's been a good ten years. If you want to get technical, it WILL be ten years very shortly so they can't do it yet. I thought the rule was 7 years not 10?
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Post by comahan on Mar 14, 2011 17:00:24 GMT -5
Seriously all this and TNA STILL allow a situation like this to happen. It's hard to feel sorry for the company. To be fair there was never any actual confirmation that Hardy was high during the concussion incident, just a lot of assumption and some "insider reports" from people who wouldn't name names. It was all speculation based off of who it is. Jeff Hardy screwing something up causes people to immediately jump to the conclusion that he was on something, whether thats fair or not.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Mar 14, 2011 17:01:16 GMT -5
The dirtsheets didn't run wild over any of these stories. PWI said Hardy was confirmed to be just tired(and if you watch his match he was perfectly fine) and the Anderson chairshot story came from one of those crapsites. PWI and WO absolutely never went crazy regarding these stories. Doesn't mean it never happened, just means that there was no legitimate confirmation that it happened and PWI and Observer hold them selves to higher journalistic standards then the "crapsites".
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2011 17:01:54 GMT -5
To be fair, it's been a good ten years. If you want to get technical, it WILL be ten years very shortly so they can't do it yet. Fair enough. He can turn heel due to being angry over Randy Orton turning 31.
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Post by jamofpearls on Mar 14, 2011 17:03:41 GMT -5
So am I correct in that the in-ring timeline appears to be: -Jeff gets in the ring and whatever he does or says something to Brian Hebner which is apparently crazy enough to causes him to flash the "x sign" -Sting is introduced -Bischoff comes out to figure out what's going on, and talks it over with Jeff and Sting in the guise that he's making it a no DQ match, obviously he was just saying anything to the audience that came into his head. -Sting decides that Jeff is too messed up to work, and uses his finisher to at least make it look like a planned finish to a match, and uses a shoot pin to try and keep Jeff from kicking out. I just watched it on youtube, and you've pretty much nailed it. Hardy's eyes were so glassed over, I'm gonna say there's no way he wasn't on something.
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