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Post by Michael Coello on Mar 13, 2011 22:38:39 GMT -5
No matter if it's a worked shoot or Hardy being legit trashed, there was no excuse for TNA to rip off the fans because of these mistakes. They ended the match with 20 minutes left in the show. Surely they could have had someone else come out. Fans won't remember Victory Road 2011 being a mostly good ppv (the matches before this one were good for the most part), they'll remember it for this horrid excuse for a main event. The only question I have is this: Does TNA want people to like their product? Considering this was considered a throw-away show BEFORE it aired, how could it have gotten worse for the show?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2011 22:38:48 GMT -5
Jeff didn't look that out of it to me, either. So, I guess we'll just have to go with the TNA's bookers are complete morons theory.
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Post by RareTradU on Mar 13, 2011 22:38:36 GMT -5
Things did seem a little weird to begin with. Hardy's theme played for almost a minute before he even came out of the entrance way, the camera cut away to the arena shot twice. Then it looked like he was trying to take some fan's flag off the guard rail. Then he slipped as he got on the ring from the stairs. The whole t-shirt into the crowd tease looked very awkward. My friend asked me when we were watching it live "Is Hardy back on drugs?".
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Post by Clarence "Showstealer" Mason on Mar 13, 2011 22:38:57 GMT -5
I don't see what they'd have to gain with it being a worked shoot. This is why the WWE passed up on giving Jeff the belt for this long. If you give him a shot he's guaranteed to f*** it up. Guaranteed. His drug problems and his frequent 'loss of passion' prove he's the poster boy for unreliable. The guy who writes TNA is the exact reason why everyone at least thinks it COULD be a worked shoot.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Mar 13, 2011 22:39:22 GMT -5
Exactly. How the hell you justify putting the world title not once but twice on a guy whose up on drug charges is beyond me. Maybe Sting can knock TNA officials heads together because you don't let a guy in no condition to perform out to the ring. That's just endangering the other performer. One report said the No DQ rule was so that Sting could stay on offense and Immortal could run in and do the work for Hardy. But STing felt that Hardy wasn't even in good enough shape to do that. It's not like it sounds like they were going to have Hardy doing Swantons and DDTs. Even if that was the case, you saw the mess tonight. Why have the guy out there acting like an ass? Don't let him out and send Ken or another guy in a better condition to perform out there. Sure the fans would get anger over the switch, but you avoid something this noteworthy going out live on ppv. It just reminded me of Jake Roberts and the Heroes of Wrestling fiasco.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Mar 13, 2011 22:39:28 GMT -5
Yeah, nothing seemed wrong with Hardy in that video, IMO. I rewatched it, and yeah, it doesn't look like there's anything wrong. I'm bad though when it comes to picking up on people on drugs, but, what an odd finish though if it wasn't the case.
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Post by Ginger Beer Man on Mar 13, 2011 22:39:31 GMT -5
Watching it now, and he doesn't seem out of it. If he did, he probably wouldn't have gotten up and tried to argue with the ref, he would have probably left or been laying down instead of walking around and moving. For real? Sting is clearly confused to hell and Jeff is doing...I don't even know what right at the start of the match. Just really bizarre. Looks like they cut the match short without Jeff knowing to me, I could be way off though. Whether or not Jeff is out of it I don't know but something has happened there surely.
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Post by The Rager (Cole Miner) on Mar 13, 2011 22:41:12 GMT -5
Watching it now, and he doesn't seem out of it. If he did, he probably wouldn't have gotten up and tried to argue with the ref, he would have probably left or been laying down instead of walking around and moving. For real? Sting is clearly confused to hell and Jeff is doing...I don't even know what right at the start of the match. Just really bizarre. Looks like they cut the match short without Jeff knowing to me, I could be way off though. Whether or not Jeff is out of it I don't know but something has happened there surely. My thoughts exactly.
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Post by kyromax on Mar 13, 2011 22:41:18 GMT -5
That pin was, was well real. Jeff was trying to kick out, and Sting just stayed on him.
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Post by Jeremy on Mar 13, 2011 22:41:32 GMT -5
Didn't look odd at all to me. Jeff Hardy teased throwing a shirt, got DDT'd and lost.
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Post by Ace Baretta on Mar 13, 2011 22:41:55 GMT -5
Jeff was....stretching on the ropes. It's not that hard to figure out.
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Post by Michael Coello on Mar 13, 2011 22:42:06 GMT -5
Watching it now, and he doesn't seem out of it. If he did, he probably wouldn't have gotten up and tried to argue with the ref, he would have probably left or been laying down instead of walking around and moving. For real? Sting is clearly confused to hell and Jeff is doing...I don't even know what right at the start of the match. Just really bizarre. Looks like they cut the match short without Jeff knowing to me, I could be way off though. Whether or not Jeff is out of it I don't know but something has happened there surely. what else do you want me to say? He didn't look out of it, but I could be wrong. Also, let's not forget that entrance was something he did before, back when Taz said he was inspired by Lady Gaga on iMPACT once, before the Fayetteville taping.
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Post by ededdneddy on Mar 13, 2011 22:42:51 GMT -5
What's really sad is that he has a wife and a kid now, and yet he keeps acting this way.
JEFF GET SOME HELP AND GROW UP ALREADY!!
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Post by jadison on Mar 13, 2011 22:42:55 GMT -5
Watching it now, and he doesn't seem out of it. If he did, he probably wouldn't have gotten up and tried to argue with the ref, he would have probably left or been laying down instead of walking around and moving. I took that as him being too f'd up to even sell the move, he just got right up and stood there in front of the ref sluggishly. He was messed up, the fact that every couple of months there's speculation about this stuff shows what a problem he has.
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Post by Wolfaga on Mar 13, 2011 22:43:12 GMT -5
Didn't look odd at all to me. Jeff Hardy teased throwing a shirt, got DDT'd and lost. To which he completely no selled and got straight up like nothing happened That sure was odd....
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Post by Andrew is Good on Mar 13, 2011 22:43:10 GMT -5
On Twitter, this Pro Wrestling Report says that Jeff is still in Orlando at the Impact Zone and not arrested.
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Post by Ginger Beer Man on Mar 13, 2011 22:43:59 GMT -5
Didn't look odd at all to me. Jeff Hardy teased throwing a shirt, got DDT'd and lost. To which he completely no selled and got straight up like nothing happened That sure was odd.... Yes the no selling was another key point to me too.
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Post by Ace Baretta on Mar 13, 2011 22:44:27 GMT -5
People are going ot think what they want on this. Even when the facts come out.
I am NOT a Jeff Hardy fan by any stretch, however, I do not believe he was on any drugs before this match.
At all.
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Post by Michael Coello on Mar 13, 2011 22:44:34 GMT -5
Watching it now, and he doesn't seem out of it. If he did, he probably wouldn't have gotten up and tried to argue with the ref, he would have probably left or been laying down instead of walking around and moving. I took that as him being too f'd up to even sell the move, he just got right up and stood there in front of the ref sluggishly. He was messed up, the fact that every couple of months there's speculation about this stuff shows what a problem he has. It was one move, though. It's happened before with a surprise win with the same reaction, and considering they're playing it off as a shocking win, he didn't need to be knocked down till the end to sell it.
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Post by Triple B on Mar 13, 2011 22:45:04 GMT -5
Yeah, nothing seemed wrong with Hardy in that video, IMO. I rewatched it, and yeah, it doesn't look like there's anything wrong. I'm bad though when it comes to picking up on people on drugs, but, what an odd finish though if it wasn't the case. Except he's supposed to be the biggest heel in the company, the face of the heel faction... And he's f***ing around like he's going to throw t-shirts like a face.
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