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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Feb 3, 2012 16:57:35 GMT -5
They aren't relying on the divas to make money. They would be in a lot of trouble if they were. Then what's the point in trying to get her "over" by giving her this dumb gimmick? Yeah. If they can make money off the Divas, giving their number one a "HAW HAW, SHE FARTZ" gimmick does nothing for her credibility; in fact, it blows a hole clean through it. And if they don't then what's the point in giving her airtime at all, let alone a farting gimmick? Either way, there's no excuse. Like I've said before: if they can make money off the Divas, they should put them to good use; if not, get rid of them. There is no in-between, and even if there was, a farting gimmick is so far from the way to go, it isn't even funny. It's pathetic.
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Post by Magician under the moonlight on Feb 3, 2012 16:58:13 GMT -5
I thought the point of a wrestling company was to make money. In what universe is anyone going to pay to see her rip one? Although, she could take 'Excuse me' away from Vickie... Men who have fart fetishes will now be all over Natalya.
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Post by JTH on Feb 3, 2012 21:02:42 GMT -5
I would work for 10 bucks an hour booking The "E" and do better than this crap.
Hire me "E", I may suck too, but at least I save you a ton of money...
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Post by FALLOUT Goldashausen #BLM on Feb 3, 2012 21:22:02 GMT -5
Then what's the point in trying to get her "over" by giving her this dumb gimmick? Yeah. If they can make money off the Divas, giving their number one a "HAW HAW, SHE FARTZ" gimmick does nothing for her credibility; in fact, it blows a hole clean through it. And if they don't then what's the point in giving her airtime at all, let alone a farting gimmick? Either way, there's no excuse. Like I've said before: if they can make money off the Divas, they should put them to good use; if not, get rid of them. There is no in-between, and even if there was, a farting gimmick is so far from the way to go, it isn't even funny. It's pathetic. This is the kind of crap that can ruin her career, never mind. She's, what, only one of five female wrestlers on this roster who can wrestle a logical match (and not just pose in some beauty contest)? This doesn't lead to her 'getting over' --- it leads to her becoming a laughingstock in the eyes of the casual fan. Unless she somehow turns face and makes something of herself through all of this, provided Beth or the Bellas make fun of her for it and she gets revenge (or something like that), then OK, we'll see where this goes. But knowing the history of the WWE in situations like these, it's probably going to end up being a one-way ticket to the Gooker.
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Post by Yami Daimao on Feb 3, 2012 21:35:37 GMT -5
I was laughing so hard, I too farted.
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Post by Time Lord Soundwave on Feb 3, 2012 22:19:29 GMT -5
What if this is step one to an all-farting PPV? We know there's a June PPV spot open, what if this is it? THE ART OF FART SILENT BUT DEADLY Throw in a "Dutch Oven" match, where both guys load up on beans before wrestling. You win by trapping the other guys head in some kind of bag, then farting in it. Also no more "WHAT" chants, all farting. "Well first I'm gonna drink me a beer" *FFFART* "Then I'm gonna drink me another beer" *FFFFFFF* "Then another one" *FFFFBTTTTTFARRT* "Then some tequila" *POOT* Oh for Christ's sake, DON'T GIVE THEM ANY IDEAS!
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Post by molson5 on Feb 3, 2012 22:32:00 GMT -5
Then what's the point in trying to get her "over" by giving her this dumb gimmick? Yeah. If they can make money off the Divas, giving their number one a "HAW HAW, SHE FARTZ" gimmick does nothing for her credibility; in fact, it blows a hole clean through it. And if they don't then what's the point in giving her airtime at all, let alone a farting gimmick? Either way, there's no excuse. Like I've said before: if they can make money off the Divas, they should put them to good use; if not, get rid of them. There is no in-between, and even if there was, a farting gimmick is so far from the way to go, it isn't even funny. It's pathetic. Not everybody directly draws money. In fact, most guys don't draw money on their own. The Usos could leave tomorrow and it wouldn't cost the WWE a single penny (they'd actually save money because they wouldn't have to pay them). But you still round out the roster. 20-30 lowerish guys and divas together, they can make the company money as a group, because it creates some variety, it helps some other guys get over and make money, they're all one small piece of filling out a house show or a TV event, and it makes your company more complete. Natalya is a member of that group. She's never going to draw a penny for the WWE under any circumstances, so for some reason, they're doing a silly comedy angle with her. It's not going to make any money, it's not going to lose any money, they decided to include this as a small part of their show that isn't going to make them or break them either way. Comedy angles serve a lot of purposes - some people like them, some will never like comedy no matter what, but they do make all the "serious" stuff seem a little more serious. A company full of seriousness sets a bland tone to where nothing really seems that serious. And all comedy is not going to click, and all comedy, even if funny, is not going to click with everyone. Worse case it's a whiff and wrestlecrap folklore, who cares. Wrestling history is full of ridiculous silliness that we look back on fondly.
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Post by jason1980s on Feb 3, 2012 22:49:20 GMT -5
Vince is like Mr. Burns with watching the wrestlers embrass themselves for his pleasure (I can imagine a Droz like moment in the office "SHE'S GONNA...SHE'S GONNA...SHE'S GONNA...FART!") and then like Mr. Burns pushing the drop button in his office they'll be wished well on WWE.Com
I wish Eric Bischoff and WCW had won the war only to see Stephanie McMahon (if she loves wrestling enough and wanted to keep working in a big league fed but I doubt she loves it, probably just loves the power) given a crappy, embarassing gimmick. Maybe a Stephanie gimmick where she farts poop and Eric feeds it to Vince like Bossman fed Pepper to Al Snow.
Vince has a twisted way about him with letting a wrestler (Stone Cold? can't remember) shove his face in Big Show's ass and wanting to do an incest/pregnancy angle with Stephanie. It's not that far fetched to think he's loving a female fart gimmick.
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Feb 3, 2012 22:49:54 GMT -5
On aftermath tonight Arda Ocal voiced his support for Natalya, he did this by doing a fart joke. Then serioused and said he wishes the best for her.
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Post by molson5 on Feb 3, 2012 22:58:04 GMT -5
Vince is like Mr. Burns with watching the wrestlers embrass themselves for his pleasure (I can imagine a Droz like moment in the office "SHE'S GONNA...SHE'S GONNA...SHE'S GONNA...FART!") and then like Mr. Burns pushing the drop button in his office they'll be wished well on WWE.Com I wish Eric Bischoff and WCW had won the war only to see Stephanie McMahon (if she loves wrestling enough and wanted to keep working in a big league fed but I doubt she loves it, probably just loves the power) given a crappy, embarassing gimmick. Maybe a Stephanie gimmick where she farts poop and Eric feeds it to Vince like Bossman fed Pepper to Al Snow. Vince has a twisted way about him with letting a wrestler (Stone Cold? can't remember) shove his face in Big Show's ass and wanting to do an incest/pregnancy angle with Stephanie. It's not that far fetched to think he's loving a female fart gimmick. Vince definitely has a twisted way about him, it's part of his success, but he didn't create the concept of of putting fictional characters in embarrassing situations for the purposes of entertainment. That's been done as long as entertainment has been around. It happens every week on comedy shows. It really is as simple as not having to work there if you don't like it. It's not a personal attack. You're being paid money to be on a demented kind of comedy/variety show.
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Post by misconduct was wrong on Feb 4, 2012 0:10:17 GMT -5
I wonder when her contract is up. I don't know the difference in money, but she'd probably be queen of the knockouts division.
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Post by Alex Shelley on Feb 4, 2012 0:13:04 GMT -5
okay
i haven't been paying much attention to the shows and kept seeing natalya farting references and seriously thought it was some sort of forum joke
but i just saw it on my tv and oh my god it's not a joke... THIS IS REAL LIFE.
what the hell is going on here
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Post by Hulkshi Tanahashi on Feb 4, 2012 0:16:23 GMT -5
I want to know who in WWE thought this was a good idea, so that I can track that person down and ask him or her to explain to me in great detail why he or she thought this was a good idea.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2012 0:38:29 GMT -5
I want to know who in WWE thought this was a good idea, so that I can track that person down and ask him or her to explain to me in great detail why he or she thought this was a good idea. You kidding me? Personally, I think the idea's a real gas. But...in all seriousness, a few years back I had this lingering fear of a fart gimmick being given to a diva. It seemed like something they'd do to try to humiliate/bury a girl, but for a while it seemed like they weren't going to do it...then this happens. Isn't it weird how that works? Expect the unexpected, and when you finally don't expect it anymore, it happens.
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Post by Heartbreaker on Feb 4, 2012 0:49:09 GMT -5
Imagine about twelve years ago when Nattie was training inside the basement of the Hart family house and thinking about the future when she would be WWE Women's Champion.
Fast forward to 2012 and she's being buried in a ridiculous gimmick that only Vince and rat-face in the back find funny.
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Post by Tiger Maskooo on Feb 4, 2012 0:56:01 GMT -5
Vince is like Mr. Burns with watching the wrestlers embrass themselves for his pleasure (I can imagine a Droz like moment in the office "SHE'S GONNA...SHE'S GONNA...SHE'S GONNA...FART!") and then like Mr. Burns pushing the drop button in his office they'll be wished well on WWE.Com Exactly. That's one thing I sort of think is being forgotten. This is a part of a larger problem than natayla or the divas. Vince and the wwe have been doing this since the 1980s. I mean just think about our roots as a site:Wrestlecrap. As funny as it is,alot of wrestlecrap is the product of vince entertaining himself by embarassing people. I dont think vince thought ricky steamboat dressing up like a literal dragon and becoming a job guy was going to draw money. I dont think the goon was vince's attempt to make a star. You can see touches of this in stuff like the british bulldogs carrying around an actual dog. I think alot of the wwf/e is vince amusing himself. I mean the guy had his son in law dry hump a mannequin in a coffin while wearing a thong and a kane mask in a REAL FUNERAL HOME.
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Post by stinger on Feb 4, 2012 1:40:24 GMT -5
I am not a Natalya mark, but this gimmick would be stupid no matter who it was given to - male or female. Come on, WWE, not ALL of your fans are 9 year old boys.
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Post by jimmyjames on Feb 4, 2012 1:44:58 GMT -5
Not going to lie. Hate the gimmick with a passion, but can't help but find Santino's reactions funny. Unfortunately, I fear that is why he is always in them. People will find him funny even if they don't like the whole Natalya farting thing. That allows them to say the gimmick is working and they should continue it.
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Post by Rican on Feb 4, 2012 1:52:57 GMT -5
I just saw this on the WWE's website...I....what? Why? How? I......what?
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Post by arrogantmodel on Feb 4, 2012 1:56:42 GMT -5
Yeah, this thing is f***ing dumb.
However, maybe something will come of it. I noticed Nattie really selling the splash from Tamina by holding her stomach, so maybe they will just push it as Tamina is really killing Natalya with the splashes. Good way to get over Tam and the move, but I'm sure that's not how it will go.
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