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Post by thelonewolf527 on Feb 4, 2012 2:26:32 GMT -5
Yeah, this thing is f***ing dumb. However, maybe something will come of it. I noticed Nattie really selling the splash from Tamina by holding her stomach, so maybe they will just push it as Tamina is really killing Natalya with the splashes. Good way to get over Tam and the move, but I'm sure that's not how it will go. You mean Tamina's splash is so powerful to the stomach and hurts so much that it gave Natalya a gas problem?
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Post by johnnybaseball, Mantaur Fan on Feb 4, 2012 3:21:36 GMT -5
Embarrassing yourself is just part of being in the WWE. Vince himself has done plenty of absolutely humiliating things.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Feb 4, 2012 5:44:38 GMT -5
Embarrassing yourself is just part of being in the WWE. Vince himself has done plenty of absolutely humiliating things. Yeah, but they went somewhere. He didn't piss himself in the ring for no reason. It was because he was afraid Austin was gonna kill him. There is literally no point to these segments.
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Post by Alex Shelley on Feb 4, 2012 6:01:09 GMT -5
We should have a contest to see who can come up with the best way that something legitimately awesome could come from these segments.
Beacuse I'm not sure it could be done.
Unless by "legitimately awesome" you're talking about the Wrestlecrap entry that is sure to result by this. Hell, maybe if could even be next year's Gooker!
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Feb 4, 2012 6:02:44 GMT -5
I'm waiting for her to actually use the fart as a finishing move and pin someone with it.
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Post by jeffreyc on Feb 4, 2012 9:16:44 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2012 9:42:39 GMT -5
After seeing her last night...I really do think they're giving her this gimmick because they think she's fat. She HAS gained weight in her midsection, I'm not criticizing her just being observant. It's an awful way to get the point across, but I think that could be playing into it.
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Post by Square on Feb 4, 2012 9:44:14 GMT -5
We should have a contest to see who can come up with the best way that something legitimately awesome could come from these segments. Beacuse I'm not sure it could be done. Unless by "legitimately awesome" you're talking about the Wrestlecrap entry that is sure to result by this. Hell, maybe if could even be next year's Gooker! The embarrassment of Nattie of her weekly public embarrassment will make her downtrodden, which would allow Daniel Bryan to come in and tell her how meat causes flatulence and how he will help her cut meat from her diet. Cue a few weeks of Nattie and Bryan getting close, AJ notices, confronts Bryan and gets attacked from behind by Bryan's new and "better" girlfriend Natayla. Have Natayla be the manipulated girlfriend, AJ can be the big diva face for Smackdown after her betrayal and it makes Bryan look more evil. Yes, I've probably thought more about this in the 2 minutes it took to write that than the whole of the WWE has put into this gimmick, but dammit I have hope that something good can come out of this!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2012 9:49:46 GMT -5
Embarrassing yourself is just part of being in the WWE. Vince himself has done plenty of absolutely humiliating things. Yeah, but they went somewhere. He didn't piss himself in the ring for no reason. It was because he was afraid Austin was gonna kill him. There is literally no point to these segments. "Manure Bath" for $600, Alex.
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Post by JTH on Feb 4, 2012 16:39:35 GMT -5
The sad thing is, having met him a couple times, her dad probably finds this funny too.
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Post by norsisclouds on Feb 4, 2012 16:57:22 GMT -5
After seeing her last night...I really do think they're giving her this gimmick because they think she's fat. She HAS gained weight in her midsection, I'm not criticizing her just being observant. It's an awful way to get the point across, but I think that could be playing into it. Yep. I could see it. Creative often does this to the women. WHAT you're not [insert ideal bodytype]?? Get ready to be called a pig or turned heel so we can mock you for not being a size 0 with tits pasted on! Her Uncle just made a public statement about how pissed off the Hart family is by this btw. Not sure if this is going to be a good thing or bad thing for her because WWE might react by taking it even farther.
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Post by mayabristow on Feb 4, 2012 17:15:29 GMT -5
I bet that this is Vince's way of getting at the Hart family because I'm sure Vince probably holds just a little bit of resentment towards the Harts.
We could only hope that Natalya can make this a positive somehow *fingers crossed*
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Post by Junkenstein on Feb 4, 2012 20:39:34 GMT -5
Alright, just watched the segment in question. It's even more ridiculous than I thought it'd be. I'd love to know Bret's thoughts on this.
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Post by CH Punk on Feb 4, 2012 21:35:18 GMT -5
Her Uncle just made a public statement about how pissed off the Hart family is by this btw. Not sure if this is going to be a good thing or bad thing for her because WWE might react by taking it even farther. I dunno, seems like the only Hart with sway is Bret and he has yet to talk about it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2012 21:38:20 GMT -5
THE FARTS....
*prepares thumbs up or thumbs down*
*thumbs up!*
WILL CONTINUE!
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Post by knightboat on Feb 5, 2012 2:54:17 GMT -5
She used the gimmick tonight at the house show in Spokane. Against Alicia Fox she pantamimed farting and seemed to be trying to use it as a weapon at least once.
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Post by Magician under the moonlight on Feb 5, 2012 3:17:19 GMT -5
She used the gimmick tonight at the house show in Spokane. Against Alicia Fox she pantamimed farting and seemed to be trying to use it as a weapon at least once. I hope there is a clip of it on youtube. Don't know if I will laugh though.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2012 3:34:44 GMT -5
She used the gimmick tonight at the house show in Spokane. Against Alicia Fox she pantamimed farting and seemed to be trying to use it as a weapon at least once. I hope there is a clip of it on youtube. Don't know if I will laugh though. Probably went like this but in a wrestling ring:
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Feb 5, 2012 3:57:14 GMT -5
Gonna be that guy, Gooker Winner.
I can still say that, right?
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Post by flatsdomino on Feb 5, 2012 4:12:14 GMT -5
We should have a contest to see who can come up with the best way that something legitimately awesome could come from these segments. Beacuse I'm not sure it could be done. Unless by "legitimately awesome" you're talking about the Wrestlecrap entry that is sure to result by this. Hell, maybe if could even be next year's Gooker! Let it go on for a bit, just to beat it into people's heads how awful of a gimmick she's been given, until people are actually talking more about what a terrible gimmick she's been given and feeling bad for her. Then I'd have Nattie getting on Twitter and making statements that seem to acknowledge how stupid the gimmick is and how sick of WWE's crap she is, being in agreement with her uncle. Then she's not on TV for a week, and the tweets are taken down. The next week, she's in a match on Raw and wins. Afterwards, she grabs a mic and does a semi-shoot, calling out WWE for their pettiness - both towards the WOMEN'S division (refusing to call it the "Divas" division) and the Hart Family (acknowledging Harry Smith's firing), denouncing the gimmick and saying that in the WWE, the only way for a woman to get any attention is to do some embarrassing, degrading crap. Also, I'd have her reference the "Piggy James" weight thing, but cite Kharma as an example of how a woman who doesn't fit the mold could be one of the most exciting things in ALL of wrestling's recent history. Hell, now that he's a character, have her reference Johnny Ace too. Have her spontaneously run through this to make it seem more like a shoot, before she gets to her actual target - Beth Phoenix. Here, she calls out Beth on Beth's promise to make the Divas division worth something again, saying Natalya bought into Beth caring about the reputation and credibility of the division, but nothing changed when Beth won the title, because after all the big game she talked, she was a fraud - Beth didn't really care about the Divas division at all - she only cared about herself, and once she had the title, nothing else mattered. Then she'd put down the mic and walk out, and we'd cut to commercial. Now, the whole crusade the Divas of Doom were originally on to bring back women's wrestling can be re-cast in a face light under Natalya, while Beth's agenda has been proven to only be self-serving and bullying. The announcers can express sympathy with Natalya's wanting to be taken seriously as a wrestler and demands that there be more of a spotlight on women's wrestling, saying that it's only fair, really. On Smackdown, Natalya's not on the show, as she's been kayfabe "sent home", but Beth cuts a promo saying she welcomes all competition, and that there's no Diva better than her. On Raw, Natalya comes out and says she went off last week, and she might've gone too far, but she meant what she said. She then calls out any Diva on the roster to prove that Women can wrestle. Eve comes out, and they have a long, really good match. Nattie wins, and afterwards, Beth comes out. She runs down Natalya, and says she's still the best women's WRESTLER there is, that she hasn't changed, and that she'll prove it anytime, anywhere, in any kind of match Natalya wants. Natalya challenges her to a ladder match at Extreme Rules. Beth, shocked, leaves to heat from the crowd. The next week, Nattie wins another competitive match, and Beth jumps her afterwards, getting on the mic to say Natalya's just bitter she was only good enough to be Beth's sidekick, even with her pedigree, and that she's just desperate for attention; but she DOES acknowledge that she became soft and lost her edge after winning the title - but, she says, her vicious side is back again, and she's more ruthless than ever before, and she accepts the match for Extreme Rules. Then the two go and tear the house down, but Beth wins, solidifying her as a legit champ. After the match, Kharma comes out and hits Beth with the Implant Buster, setting up a feud between the two of them. That's how you get people to care about women's wrestling. Now, that was just something I threw together, and I'm not saying it's great (yeah yeah, I did a worked shoot, plus it's very similar to Punk's promo from last year) but it hits the reset button on the last year, basically, of awful Divas wrestling, while building towards something much better. How's that?
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