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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Sept 8, 2011 7:18:16 GMT -5
Wrestlemania will be the only one that matters so I don't see the point....Cena doesn't need to beat the Rock to "put over the new generation" ...Cena's been "The Man" for what...5-6 years now??? So you want the face of the company to lose to a guys who hasn't wrestled in over 8 years. Talk about making the face of your company look weak. Makes the whole company look weak.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2011 7:24:12 GMT -5
It's only a 'dream match' that one time. Take for example the return match with Hogan/Rock.. that wasn't a big deal, at all. Agreed. Has a "dream" rematch ever lived up to the hype of the first one? I hate the 'Shawn Michaels Rule' (wanting to get wins back as if it matters in the long run). If Shawn beat Hogan in a rematch, would anyone have cared? More importantly, would it have drawn as much as the first match? Probably no on both counts. Have one freakin' match. Let Cena go over if it is that big of a deal, and move on. I think many would prefer The Rock winning, me included, but the match itself is more important than the finish.
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Post by Mista T on Sept 8, 2011 7:49:21 GMT -5
Wrestlemania will be the only one that matters so I don't see the point....Cena doesn't need to beat the Rock to "put over the new generation" ...Cena's been "The Man" for what...5-6 years now??? So you want the face of the company to lose to a guys who hasn't wrestled in over 8 years. Talk about making the face of your company look weak. Makes the whole company look weak. Yes. Because I am a Rock mark forever. Sorry.
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Sept 8, 2011 9:25:11 GMT -5
So you want the face of the company to lose to a guys who hasn't wrestled in over 8 years. Talk about making the face of your company look weak. Makes the whole company look weak. Yes. Because I am a Rock mark forever. Sorry. No need to be sorry, but it makes no business sense for the face of your company to lose to someone who hasn't wrestled in almost 8 years.
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Post by Snaptastic on Sept 8, 2011 9:59:01 GMT -5
Yes. Because I am a Rock mark forever. Sorry. No need to be sorry, but it makes no business sense for the face of your company to lose to someone who hasn't wrestled in almost 8 years. One loss isn't going to make anyone look weak. That's a poor argument against Rock winning at Mania next year. If things were that simple, there's no point in having the match in the first place.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2011 10:13:00 GMT -5
Honestly, I'm of the opinion that Cena should win, but that ultimately no matter who wins the result itself is pointless. The only real reason for the match is for one quick, large buyrate - it's not going to lead to anything and other than Vince not going to benefit anyone. Valid reason to have it, just saying that it's pretty inconsequential in the long run.
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Post by Branimal on Sept 8, 2011 10:19:13 GMT -5
One match. Cena wins. Why is that so hard? Rock has nothing to gain. He will not be full time. If if Cena puts The Rock over.. what's the big deal that way either? It's not like Cena's going to become "the guy The Rock beat that one time".
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2011 10:35:53 GMT -5
One match. Cena wins. Why is that so hard? Rock has nothing to gain. He will not be full time. If if Cena puts The Rock over.. what's the big deal that way either? It's not like Cena's going to become "the guy The Rock beat that one time". Honestly, Cena losing to the Rock will not hurt him at all, but Rocky isn't coming back full time, so I don't see much reason to have him go over a guy that will be wrestling for the foreseeable future.
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Post by SAJ Forth on Sept 8, 2011 11:15:20 GMT -5
It's only a 'dream match' that one time. Take for example the return match with Hogan/Rock.. that wasn't a big deal, at all. This is true. It shou;ld be a one night only. Whoever wins gets the win, whoever loses will not lose everything losing the match.
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Post by TheDieselTrain on Sept 8, 2011 11:25:14 GMT -5
Yes. Because I am a Rock mark forever. Sorry. No need to be sorry, but it makes no business sense for the face of your company to lose to someone who hasn't wrestled in almost 8 years. Wrestlemania will be the only one that matters so I don't see the point....Cena doesn't need to beat the Rock to "put over the new generation" ...Cena's been "The Man" for what...5-6 years now??? So you want the face of the company to lose to a guys who hasn't wrestled in over 8 years. Talk about making the face of your company look weak. Makes the whole company look weak. The supposed face of the company got pinned by Kevin Federline. . . . . . . . . Why are we acting like The Rock has never wrestled here before people???
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Post by Snaptastic on Sept 8, 2011 11:29:24 GMT -5
No need to be sorry, but it makes no business sense for the face of your company to lose to someone who hasn't wrestled in almost 8 years. So you want the face of the company to lose to a guys who hasn't wrestled in over 8 years. Talk about making the face of your company look weak. Makes the whole company look weak. The supposed face of the company got pinned by Kevin Federline. Why are we acting like The Rock has never wrestled here before people???[/quote] I've asked that so many times. Nobody has ever managed to give me a decent response. I would wager that's because there isn't a decent response to that one. There's no shame in Cena losing to Rock, but alas.
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Post by breakdownthewalls on Sept 8, 2011 11:37:59 GMT -5
If true, I hope Cena wins all three, each time winning quicker and more decisively.
Mania can be close, with Cena just managing to sneak out a win. This main events the show.
Extreme Rules? Cena wins in an 8 minute back and forth. This is like halfway through the show.
Summerslam? Curtain jerks, Cena squashes Rock in about 2 minutes. Then he picks him up, carries him to the back, and tosses him in a dumpster out back. The Rock is never seen on WWE TV again.
The only way I'd be happier is if Cena managed to find Edge and Christian's old time machine and used it to go back in time and prevent that "Rock's Birthday Ass Kissing" episode of Raw from ever happening.
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Post by Snaptastic on Sept 8, 2011 11:41:54 GMT -5
If true, I hope Cena wins all three, each time winning quicker and more decisively. Mania can be close, with Cena just managing to sneak out a win. This main events the show. Extreme Rules? Cena wins in an 8 minute back and forth. This is like halfway through the show. Summerslam? Curtain jerks, Cena squashes Rock in about 2 minutes. Then he picks him up, carries him to the back, and tosses him in a dumpster out back. The Rock is never seen on WWE TV again. The only way I'd be happier is if Cena managed to find Edge and Christian's old time machine and used it to go back in time and prevent that "Rock's Birthday Ass Kissing" episode of Raw from ever happening. Big Rock fan then eh?
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Post by breakdownthewalls on Sept 8, 2011 11:52:14 GMT -5
If true, I hope Cena wins all three, each time winning quicker and more decisively. Mania can be close, with Cena just managing to sneak out a win. This main events the show. Extreme Rules? Cena wins in an 8 minute back and forth. This is like halfway through the show. Summerslam? Curtain jerks, Cena squashes Rock in about 2 minutes. Then he picks him up, carries him to the back, and tosses him in a dumpster out back. The Rock is never seen on WWE TV again. The only way I'd be happier is if Cena managed to find Edge and Christian's old time machine and used it to go back in time and prevent that "Rock's Birthday Ass Kissing" episode of Raw from ever happening. Big Rock fan then eh? Used to be, hate what he's become. Another psuedo-celebrity. Him grabbing a spot at Wrestlemania is as bad as any other celebrity match, maybe even worse because Vince never did a whole episode of Raw devoted to Snooki or Floyd Mayweather's birthdays.
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Post by Snaptastic on Sept 8, 2011 11:58:01 GMT -5
Used to be, hate what he's become. Another psuedo-celebrity. Him grabbing a spot at Wrestlemania is as bad as any other celebrity match, maybe even worse because Vince never did a whole episode of Raw devoted to Snooki or Floyd Mayweather's birthdays. Except that Rock is a 7-time WWE & 2-time World Heavyweight champ. Not forgetting he's held the IC & Tag Titles...and won the 2000 Royal Rumble. But apart from that it's just another celebrity match right?
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Sept 8, 2011 12:14:59 GMT -5
One rematch at Extreme Rules would be fine by me. I'd have Rock go over in his hometown at Mania, then let Cena take the second contest. That way both guys look like equals.
But if there are no rematches, I think WWE and Cena would be fine regardless of who goes over- the money is in the prematch staredown more than anything. Granted, I am rooting for Cena, but only because I think he's looked like the more sympathetic figure in this feud. One guy just wants to be given his due, the other's like "LOLZ FRUITY PEBBLEZ!!".
But nevertheless, he's still John Freaking Cena. He can take a loss to Rock if WWE plays the storyline right. On the Road To Wrestlemania, they ought to raise the question if Rock can pull off an improbable win after an eight-year absence, and build Cena up as the odds on favorite (preferably, without putting a world title on him).
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Post by breakdownthewalls on Sept 8, 2011 12:41:48 GMT -5
Used to be, hate what he's become. Another psuedo-celebrity. Him grabbing a spot at Wrestlemania is as bad as any other celebrity match, maybe even worse because Vince never did a whole episode of Raw devoted to Snooki or Floyd Mayweather's birthdays. Except that Rock is a 7-time WWE & 2-time World Heavyweight champ. Not forgetting he's held the IC & Tag Titles...and won the 2000 Royal Rumble. But apart from that it's just another celebrity match right? David Arquette is a former World Heavyweight champ, too. And Judy Bagwell's a former tag team champ. I get your point, but my problem is I no longer consider the Rock a former pro wrestler. If Stone Cold showed up for the same kind of build, I'd consider him a wrestler. I'd still hate if they did a birthday buttkiss, but then again, Stone Cold wouldn't have wanted that crap.
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Post by moneyman20 on Sept 8, 2011 13:01:26 GMT -5
Except that Rock is a 7-time WWE & 2-time World Heavyweight champ. Not forgetting he's held the IC & Tag Titles...and won the 2000 Royal Rumble. But apart from that it's just another celebrity match right? David Arquette is a former World Heavyweight champ, too. And Judy Bagwell's a former tag team champ. I get your point, but my problem is I no longer consider the Rock a former pro wrestler. If Stone Cold showed up for the same kind of build, I'd consider him a wrestler. I'd still hate if they did a birthday buttkiss, but then again, Stone Cold wouldn't have wanted that crap. You do know that Stone Cold hasn't wrestled a match since 2003. And that Rock's last match was in 2004. Why would you take the guy who's been out of wrestling for 8 years more seriously as a wrestler than the guy who's been out 7? And don't give me the "Rock is a movie star" crap, Austin has been in a couple big budget movies to.
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Sept 8, 2011 13:02:48 GMT -5
BOLD PREDICTION: Cena loses at Wrestlemania because random heel 34342343 interferes and costs him the match...and then wins the next two cleanly.
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Post by Snaptastic on Sept 8, 2011 13:06:18 GMT -5
Except that Rock is a 7-time WWE & 2-time World Heavyweight champ. Not forgetting he's held the IC & Tag Titles...and won the 2000 Royal Rumble. But apart from that it's just another celebrity match right? David Arquette is a former World Heavyweight champ, too. And Judy Bagwell's a former tag team champ. I get your point, but my problem is I no longer consider the Rock a former pro wrestler. If Stone Cold showed up for the same kind of build, I'd consider him a wrestler. I'd still hate if they did a birthday buttkiss, but then again, Stone Cold wouldn't have wanted that crap. To be honest, I doubt Rock really wanted that kind of fanfare either. But WWE most likely insisted and he obliged by showing up.
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