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Post by Rolent Tex on Dec 4, 2011 1:41:17 GMT -5
...enjoyed it, especially the cameos...but man were the continuity errors between it and the other four movies bad. Well, bad would be an understatement. I wish they would have just called it a reboot and had been done with it. Hell, better yet. I'm willing to accept the continuity errors between First Class and X1/X2/Last Stand as long as we can forget X-Men Origins:Wolverine ever existed. That would at least take care of the Emma Frost problem.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2011 3:34:15 GMT -5
Yeah, everyone hates the continuity. I was just, overall, bored with the movie. It was too weird for me, trying to do the whole Moddish 60's thing and I disliked the Cuban Missile aspect to it. Loved a lot of the performances though.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Dec 4, 2011 3:37:33 GMT -5
...enjoyed it, especially the cameos...but man were the continuity errors between it and the other four movies bad. Well, bad would be an understatement. I wish they would have just called it a reboot and had been done with it. Hell, better yet. I'm willing to accept the continuity errors between First Class and X1/X2/Last Stand as long as we can forget X-Men Origins:Wolverine ever existed. That would at least take care of the Emma Frost problem. Can't we go the opposite wasy and just pretend Emma Frost never existed? At least that would eliminate January Jones and her horrible performance from the continuity. As well as the massive plothole regarding her character that everyone overlooks. |
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Post by Rolent Tex on Dec 4, 2011 3:38:46 GMT -5
Yeah, everyone hates the continuity. I was just, overall, bored with the movie. It was too weird for me, trying to do the whole Moddish 60's thing and I disliked the Cuban Missile aspect to it. Loved a lot of the performances though. My wife was bored with it too. She thought THAT cameo was the best part of the movie. It just boggled my mind that they said it wasn't a reboot but yet they just had so much serious continuity errors. it was like Matthew Vaughn didn't watch ANY of the other movies. Emma Frost being an adult in FC while she's a teenager in Origins which comes AFTER FC...Xavier and Magneto visiting Jean Grey at the beginning of Last Stand when they're not working together by the end of FC...you see Beast as human in X2 when he's furry by FC's end...Xavier's still standing in Origins...it's just all pretty sloppy. I just had to ignore the other four movies and enjoy it for what it was. |
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Post by Rolent Tex on Dec 4, 2011 3:39:52 GMT -5
Can't we go the opposite wasy and just pretend Emma Frost never existed? At least that would eliminate January Jones and her horrible performance from the continuity. As well as the massive plothole regarding her character that everyone overlooks. Which problem was that? I must have missed it. |
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Dec 4, 2011 3:52:41 GMT -5
It's a good movie, but man is January Jones the weak link.
Michael Fassbender is a king among men though
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Post by Rolent Tex on Dec 4, 2011 3:55:36 GMT -5
Yeah, I was let down by January Jones. It saddened me that Alice Eve didn't end up with the part like originally rumored.
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Post by hypnoticgenes on Dec 4, 2011 3:56:58 GMT -5
I really liked it. And I think the reason why I liked it is because I disassociated it with the other movies. If you take it as a stand alone movie it is very well done. I'm just mad they had to kill off the black guy.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Dec 4, 2011 4:01:20 GMT -5
Pretty sure it was never stated in the Wolvie movie that it was Emma, so it can just be a hell of a coincidence.
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Post by sludgehammer on Dec 4, 2011 4:02:10 GMT -5
I really liked it. And I think the reason why I liked it is because I disassociated it with the other movies. If you take it as a stand alone movie it is very well done. I'm just mad they had to kill off the black guy. Yeah it really should be taken as a stand-alone film. I was hoping they'd branch off a new film series from this, because it was miles ahead of the other X-Men flicks in every way. |
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Dec 4, 2011 4:14:20 GMT -5
Can't we go the opposite wasy and just pretend Emma Frost never existed? At least that would eliminate January Jones and her horrible performance from the continuity. As well as the massive plothole regarding her character that everyone overlooks. Which problem was that? I must have missed it. {Spoiler}After they capture and lock her up, there's a scene where she's behind what I assume is supposed to be soundproof glass while they discuss what Shaw might be up to. Emma, of course, can hear everything they are saying so she turns into her diamond form, cuts a hole in the glass and basically fills them in on Shaw's entire plan. The question then becomes if she can cut through the glass like that and is a powerful enough psychic to implant images in seedy old general's mind of him f***ing her then why doesn't she just use those abilities to escape? Why does she just hang around until dime store Magneto busts her out? |
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Post by Rolent Tex on Dec 4, 2011 4:49:05 GMT -5
Which problem was that? I must have missed it. {Spoiler}After they capture and lock her up, there's a scene where she's behind what I assume is supposed to be soundproof glass while they discuss what Shaw might be up to. Emma, of course, can hear everything they are saying so she turns into her diamond form, cuts a hole in the glass and basically fills them in on Shaw's entire plan. The question then becomes if she can cut through the glass like that and is a powerful enough psychic to implant images in seedy old general's mind of him f***ing her then why doesn't she just use those abilities to escape? Why does she just hang around until dime store Magneto busts her out? Good point. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 4, 2011 6:22:14 GMT -5
Pretty sure it was never stated in the Wolvie movie that it was Emma, so it can just be a hell of a coincidence. Maybe not in the movie itself (not sure exactly) but in every piece of promotion for Origins she was called Emma Frost. for instance... |
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Dec 4, 2011 10:37:19 GMT -5
I really liked it. And I think the reason why I liked it is because I disassociated it with the other movies. If you take it as a stand alone movie it is very well done. I'm just mad they had to kill off the black guy. The black guy who's power is he can adapt to anything so he can't die. Seriously, that annoyed me so much, out of all the characters to kill off, they pick one you can't kill. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2011 10:52:15 GMT -5
I like when they tried to recruit Wolverine and he tells them to f*** off so they just leave.
Overall I enjoyed it, though I'm not as into comic books/superheros as most on this site.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Dec 4, 2011 10:54:52 GMT -5
I really liked it. And I think the reason why I liked it is because I disassociated it with the other movies. If you take it as a stand alone movie it is very well done. I'm just mad they had to kill off the black guy. The black guy who's power is he can adapt to anything so he can't die. Seriously, that annoyed me so much, out of all the characters to kill off, they pick one you can't kill. Wait, Darwin? His powers just let him adapt to the situtation not let him go "I'm dying now so my powers will now stop me from dying". |
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Dec 4, 2011 11:07:03 GMT -5
I really liked it. And I think the reason why I liked it is because I disassociated it with the other movies. If you take it as a stand alone movie it is very well done. I'm just mad they had to kill off the black guy. The black guy who's power is he can adapt to anything so he can't die. Seriously, that annoyed me so much, out of all the characters to kill off, they pick one you can't kill. But thinking about, who else was there at the time? You can't kill Mystque or Beast without messing up the timeline even more that it was already. And they can't kill Havok off without some scenes with him and his brother. So it's either him or the poor man's Wasp. |
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Post by The Tank on Dec 4, 2011 11:07:34 GMT -5
The black guy who's power is he can adapt to anything so he can't die. Seriously, that annoyed me so much, out of all the characters to kill off, they pick one you can't kill. Wait, Darwin? His powers just let him adapt to the situtation not let him go "I'm dying now so my powers will now stop me from dying". That's exactly what they say. That's how his powers work. He gets thrown underwater, he grows gills. He gets thrown into space, he adapts to the vacuum. There's a World War Hulk tie-in where his body determines that the best way to survive fighting The Hulk is to not fight The Hulk at all, AND HE F***ING TELEPORTS AWAY FROM THE BATTLE. Havok's random blast shouldn't have been able to kill him. He should've...I don't know, deflected or absorbed that s***. Because at the end of it, his power pretty much specifically is "He CAN'T die." It's not that he just goes "I'm dying so now my powers will stop me from dying." His powers should stop him from ever getting to "dying" in the first place. But then, doesn't really matter. That's just one more thing among the many that this movie screwed up. |
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Post by Yami Daimao on Dec 4, 2011 11:16:41 GMT -5
Continuity mess aside, I LOVED it as a standalone film. The Wolverine cameo was awesome. It's my favorite X-Men film. Which problem was that? I must have missed it. {Spoiler}After they capture and lock her up, there's a scene where she's behind what I assume is supposed to be soundproof glass while they discuss what Shaw might be up to. Emma, of course, can hear everything they are saying so she turns into her diamond form, cuts a hole in the glass and basically fills them in on Shaw's entire plan. The question then becomes if she can cut through the glass like that and is a powerful enough psychic to implant images in seedy old general's mind of him f***ing her then why doesn't she just use those abilities to escape? Why does she just hang around until dime store Magneto busts her out? I think you're nitpicking it a bit much, as this does happen an awful lot in movies. My guess is it's just an observation even the people making the film overlooked. Although while I find myself picking apart plotholes like that too, they're only minor enough to where they don't ruin the film for me. It's a good point, but it's no "massive" plothole. I didn't even notice it until you brought it up. |
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Post by theryno665 on Dec 4, 2011 11:29:20 GMT -5
Pretty sure it was never stated in the Wolvie movie that it was Emma, so it can just be a hell of a coincidence. Maybe not in the movie itself (not sure exactly) but in every piece of promotion for Origins she was called Emma Frost. for instance... Yeah, I tried to make this argument too but all the ads said she was Emma. Also, if you get the Blu-Ray of First Class, the Cerebro special feature, which is a listing of most of the mutants to have appeared in the X-Men films, tries to tie them all together. It doesn't work. As for the movie itself, I loved it and I kinda treated it as a reboot anyways so the continuity errors didn't get to me all that much. |
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