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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2011 0:10:27 GMT -5
Come on guys......The hall can only be so wide.
But for realzies. Outside of his title reigns, his career was really not that spectacular. Obviously because of his size he didn't get to have a long career that would cement his legacy in the business. Having said that though, he made a huge impact in a short amount of time, so he definitely deserves to be seriously considered. He definitely deserves it more than a couple guys already in the Hall.
Plus my sister and I did work as twin Yokozunas on the Sega. So....I vote yes for Yoko in the Hall.
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Post by The Heenan Family on Sept 25, 2011 0:25:42 GMT -5
None of those guys have a 10 month World Title reign to their name, so why does Yoko take a backseat to them? He's also far more recognisable to the modern fanbase than all of those guys put together. Even though his heyday was during a time when business was in the s***ter, a lot of casual fans still remember him (or at the very least have heard of him) for whatever reason. So what are you guys saying? He should have been inducted before Andre the Giant, Gorilla Monsoon and Big John Studd? They didn't have the title reign that he got either. Maybe WWE tries to induct people by seniority sometimes. Inducting people who helped pave the way for someone like Yokozuna. If I were WWE I would focus on inducting the living super heavyweights like Vader, Bundy, Gang and Kamala before they kick the bucket. Yokozuna isn't going anywhere. They probably weren't going to induct him before his uncles in 2007 anyways. Though with the Anoa'i family living in Florida, I can see him being considered for the 2012 class.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2011 0:27:41 GMT -5
Was thinking if any former WWE Champions would ever fail to get in, we know Sammartino refuses, I imagine Savage and Backland will eventually come around (or his family will in Savage's case). Nash and Taker are locks as are the majority of post attitude era Champions (Angle and Hardy it depends on their personal lives recovering I guess.)
That leaves Sid, Yokozuna, Warrior and JBL as the only maybes for retired former Champions. It's far too early in their careers to judge if Miz, Del Rio, Punk or Sheamus will be considered.
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Post by The Heenan Family on Sept 25, 2011 0:32:55 GMT -5
Was thinking if any former WWE Champions would ever fail to get in, we know Sammartino refuses, I imagine Savage and Backland will eventually come around (or his family will in Savage's case). Nash and Taker are locks as are the majority of post attitude era Champions (Angle and Hardy it depends on their personal lives recovering I guess.) That leaves Sid, Yokozuna, Warrior and JBL as the only maybes for retired former Champions. It's far too early in their careers to judge if Miz, Del Rio, Punk or Sheamus will be considered. You're forgetting Ivan Koloff and Stan the Man Stasiak. Though for Punk, I'd argue that he is a 12 year vet who has been world champion 3 times and WWE champion once. I'm sure if he retired tomorrow, he'd be strongly considered down the road.
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Post by Sponsored by Groose Wipes on Sept 25, 2011 0:41:48 GMT -5
I thought Yokozuna was already in. If not then yeah he needs to be.
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Post by Manute Bol on Sept 25, 2011 1:03:12 GMT -5
Only one dead guy per year...he'll get his turn.
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Post by "Dashing" Dr.VonPhoenix on Sept 25, 2011 1:37:39 GMT -5
He'll get in before 2020. Mark my words.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 25, 2011 11:42:23 GMT -5
He should be. His first title reign was meaningless, but his second one lasted 280 days, and he helped further establish Bret Hart as a main event player, he did all he could to elevate Lex Luger (though Luger flopped due to his own limitations), and had a major feud with the Undertaker.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2011 12:25:35 GMT -5
Was thinking if any former WWE Champions would ever fail to get in, we know Sammartino refuses, I imagine Savage and Backland will eventually come around (or his family will in Savage's case) I understand that Backlund is waiting for Mr. McMahon to be able to recite the names of the presidents in sequential order before accepting a nomination.
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Post by Manute Bol on Sept 25, 2011 15:35:26 GMT -5
He'll get in before 2020. Mark my words. I was on the fence before, but now I'm convinced.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Sept 25, 2011 15:46:52 GMT -5
He's also far more recognisable to the modern fanbase than all of those guys put together. Even though his heyday was during a time when business was in the s***ter, a lot of casual fans still remember him (or at the very least have heard of him) for whatever reason. So what are you guys saying? He should have been inducted before Andre the Giant, Gorilla Monsoon and Big John Studd? They didn't have the title reign that he got either. Maybe WWE tries to induct people by seniority sometimes. Inducting people who helped pave the way for someone like Yokozuna. If I were WWE I would focus on inducting the living super heavyweights like Vader, Bundy, Gang and Kamala before they kick the bucket. Yokozuna isn't going anywhere. They probably weren't going to induct him before his uncles in 2007 anyways. Though with the Anoa'i family living in Florida, I can see him being considered for the 2012 class. There is a huge difference between Andre the Giant and Gorilla Monsoon and Kamala and One Man Gang. Yokozuna fits in that gap with Vader and maybe Bigelow. A World Title doesn't automatically make a wrestler better or more deserving than another, that wasn't my point. Otherwise, you could say Alberto del Rio is more deserving than Roddy Piper. However, when you have a number of similar guys, like a group consisting of Yokozuna, Earthquake, Kamala, etc then yes, Yoko's World Title can be used to order that specific group. His world title makes him stand out among them, but not over every wrestler that ever existed.
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Post by derrtaysouth95 on Sept 25, 2011 20:16:03 GMT -5
He'll go in eventaully...there are a a few significant names from before Yoko's time that haven't made it in yet either.
And Eddie should've waited a few years..he was one of my favorites but went in that year for the wrong reasons.
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Post by Red Impact on Sept 25, 2011 20:38:18 GMT -5
He'll go in, but the way they have to do it, they have to put guys in sort of slowly because the pool is more limited than other sports. They have to try to keep it big every year.
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Post by Kash Flagg on Sept 25, 2011 21:08:23 GMT -5
Yoko will get in, but won't be a headliner for sure.
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Post by The Heenan Family on Sept 25, 2011 21:54:26 GMT -5
So what are you guys saying? He should have been inducted before Andre the Giant, Gorilla Monsoon and Big John Studd? They didn't have the title reign that he got either. Maybe WWE tries to induct people by seniority sometimes. Inducting people who helped pave the way for someone like Yokozuna. If I were WWE I would focus on inducting the living super heavyweights like Vader, Bundy, Gang and Kamala before they kick the bucket. Yokozuna isn't going anywhere. They probably weren't going to induct him before his uncles in 2007 anyways. Though with the Anoa'i family living in Florida, I can see him being considered for the 2012 class. There is a huge difference between Andre the Giant and Gorilla Monsoon and Kamala and One Man Gang. Yokozuna fits in that gap with Vader and maybe Bigelow. A World Title doesn't automatically make a wrestler better or more deserving than another, that wasn't my point. Otherwise, you could say Alberto del Rio is more deserving than Roddy Piper. However, when you have a number of similar guys, like a group consisting of Yokozuna, Earthquake, Kamala, etc then yes, Yoko's World Title can be used to order that specific group. His world title makes him stand out among them, but not over every wrestler that ever existed. The main reason I would hold off on Yokozuna would be because of the bunch, he is the freshest and one of the most notable. He has a longer shelf life than say Haystacks Calhoun at this point. You can save Yoko for a rainy day. Plus the big guys don't usually live as long and thus I can't stress the importance of trying to induct the living ones as soon as possible. Though they REALLY need to start inducting more giants in general. They've been way too slow with it since Big John Studd in 2004. There's only so many classes left with the number of headliners they have and you can pretty much guess they won't be inducting Yokozuna the same year as Haystacks Calhoun or King Kong Bundy. It's a puzzle that will have to fit in The Undertaker, Kane, Yokozuna, The Big Show, King Kong Bundy, Big Van Vader, Haystacks Calhoun, Big Boss Man, Bam Bam Bigelow, Sycho Sid, Bruiser Brody, The One Man Gang, Kamala, Mark Henry, Earthquake with maybe even Giant Baba, Rikishi, Crusher Jerry Blackwell and who knows about the Great Khali or Viscera.
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Post by Beav on Sept 25, 2011 22:31:14 GMT -5
Too many spiders in the hall?
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Post by Hawk Hart on Sept 25, 2011 22:36:52 GMT -5
Too many spiders in the hall? If that's the case, R-Truth may one day join the ranks of those who turn down the Hall of Fame.
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Post by probable on Sept 26, 2011 9:32:12 GMT -5
He'll go in one day for sure. he deserves it as he was THE heel for at least two years in the WWE, fueding with some of the companies biggest ever names... and Lex Luger.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2011 10:50:04 GMT -5
I'm all for him going in. He was the heel in WWF for a short time, and there aren't a lot of guys who were pushed to be as much of a dominant, monster heel as Yoko.
I do kind of subscribe to the seniority theory though, and there are a few guys I would like to see go in first, and since Bundy apparently was hard to work with regarding the HOF, Earthquake needs to be inducted ASAP. His death shouldn't be a controversial issue either, since it was cancer and not drug-related. Mattel did state that 'Quake doesn't have a Legends deal, though.
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Post by Big L on Sept 26, 2011 11:00:38 GMT -5
Simply put, there are plenty of others who should probably go in before him. There's no real demand for him to go in, nor is there any real reason(business-wise) for him to go in. It wouldn't shock me if were inducted the same year Undertaker finally goes in, though. The two were close backstage and I'm guessing Taker has enough pull to decide who else goes in that year. That'd be cool
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