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Post by kingoftheindies on Jun 5, 2011 12:32:46 GMT -5
What's often ignored is that Shawn had just as many demons as Marty did, but the WWf turned a blind eye to his problems. Not to mention that Marty mentioned in a shoot interview that someone important from the office told him point blank that they saw more in Shawn than in him and that they were going to push Shawn. Shawn had a bad pill problem, but at the time it wasn't that bad yet. Everything I've heard from back then was that Marty was a liar, addicted to gambling, had a short temper, was stubborn did a lot of hardcore drugs, and drank a lot. I believe in Bret's book he even said that during one of Marty's comebacks he was supposed to have a long feud with Shawn, but he showed up for the match drunk, and was fired as soon as he got to the back. |
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Post by Citizen Zero on Jun 5, 2011 14:42:35 GMT -5
What's often ignored is that Shawn had just as many demons as Marty did, but the WWf turned a blind eye to his problems. Not to mention that Marty mentioned in a shoot interview that someone important from the office told him point blank that they saw more in Shawn than in him and that they were going to push Shawn. Shawn had a bad pill problem, but at the time it wasn't that bad yet. Everything I've heard from back then was that Marty was a liar, addicted to gambling, had a short temper, was stubborn did a lot of hardcore drugs, and drank a lot. I believe in Bret's book he even said that during one of Marty's comebacks he was supposed to have a long feud with Shawn, but he showed up for the match drunk, and was fired as soon as he got to the back. Sounds like he was the Shawn Michaels before Shawn Michaels became Shawn Michaels. |
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Post by mrjl on Jun 5, 2011 15:24:27 GMT -5
I'd love it if the WWE rehired Marty, put him in a full bodysuit and mask and had him wrestle like Shawn. Everyone would be talking about Shawn being retired and they're going to force him to unmask, and then he finally loses a mask match and it's not Shawn.
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Post by chunkylover53 on Aug 8, 2011 13:45:11 GMT -5
I'd love it if the WWE rehired Marty, put him in a full bodysuit and mask and had him wrestle like Shawn. Everyone would be talking about Shawn being retired and they're going to force him to unmask, and then he finally loses a mask match and it's not Shawn. So would that be his 7th time working for the E? I lost count. |
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Post by molson5 on Aug 8, 2011 19:41:25 GMT -5
Jannetty got a surprisingly strong push when he came back after his (approximately) 4th firing when he won the I-C title from HBK. At the time, I considered them basically equals. But then Janetty started teaming with the 1-2-3 kid, which was a step-down from the Rockers team, while HBK continued on as I-C champion. Then Jannetty got fired again.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Aug 8, 2011 20:06:02 GMT -5
Just a thought I had while watching some Rocker matches. Why is it that Shawn went on to be a legend and Marty went on to be the name used for the tag-team member that fails after the team breaks up? Was he just not very good? Was it just the randomness of booking? Did he have heat? Did he have "personal demon" problems? Fickleness of the fans maybe? well... let's just say "Cocaine is a hell of a drug" and leave it at that. |
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Post by jp49er80 on Aug 9, 2011 16:10:32 GMT -5
He broke someone's neck too didn't he? Cost Titan Sports a hell of a lot of money.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2011 16:53:01 GMT -5
Jannetty was the problem. If he had controlled his demons, then he might have been better than Shawn or at the same level. But his issues wouldn't die.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2011 17:38:04 GMT -5
I don't think I got legitimately buy a main eventer named "Marty Jannetty". He sounds like a child's party entertainer.
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Post by noleafclover1980 on Aug 9, 2011 17:41:24 GMT -5
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Post by mrjl on Aug 9, 2011 17:43:55 GMT -5
The lesser spoken of reason that still has merit, Marty never graduated from his Rocker persona so he instantly came off as the lesser of the two. Shawn evolved the Rocker gimmick into HBK. Marty clung to the Rocker look with a vice grip and came off as if he couldn't let go of the tag team. When he faced Shawn at the Royal Rumble 93 that was the time for Marty to evolve himself. Instead he became twice the Rocker to make up for Shawn's departure. The goose was cooked from that point. Marty never had enough time to move on from the Rocker gimmick. |
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Post by The OP on Aug 9, 2011 18:10:06 GMT -5
Jannetty got a surprisingly strong push when he came back after his (approximately) 4th firing when he won the I-C title from HBK. At the time, I considered them basically equals. But then Janetty started teaming with the 1-2-3 kid, which was a step-down from the Rockers team, while HBK continued on as I-C champion. Then Jannetty got fired again. Jannetty and the Kid won the tag belts though, and that still meant something at the time. They were heavily featured on RAW. I really don't think Marty had any lack of talent at all and could very well have reached main event status eventually, he just couldn't stay out of trouble. The people citing "personal demons" I think have it exactly right, and I think it's really the only reason. That's why I hate it when people talk about "the Jannetty" of a tag team in reference to whoever they see as the less talented partner, because it's not like the company didn't see anything in him or they wouldn't have given him those IC and tag title runs. He cost himself his shot with his behavior problems. |
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Post by Schemer on Aug 9, 2011 21:23:56 GMT -5
Johnny Polo calling him Marty Confetti couldn't have helped his credibility much....
Marty's problem was he couldn't control himself and he didn't have a group of guys to watch his back like Shawn did.
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Post by Big L on Aug 9, 2011 22:06:35 GMT -5
He actually turned down the heel push. Shawn being Shawn made the most of it. True indeed |
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 9, 2011 22:10:43 GMT -5
Drugs.
It's the obvious answer, but it's the answer.
He probably never woulda ascended to the heights of Shawn, as he just didn't have the charisma that Michaels did; but had he been able to keep his demons in check, he probably coulda been at least been a solid guy for a long, long time.
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Post by Squirrel Master on Aug 10, 2011 12:32:55 GMT -5
Sometimes in life you gotta kiss that Corporate ass. Janetty was just too proud to understand this.  |
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Post by destrucity on Aug 10, 2011 21:44:52 GMT -5
He broke someone's neck too didn't he? Cost Titan Sports a hell of a lot of money. Yes he did. The wrestler's name was Chad Austin (not to be confused with the Chad Austin who wrestled in ECW). |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2011 21:46:33 GMT -5
What's often ignored is that Shawn had just as many demons as Marty did, but the WWf turned a blind eye to his problems. Not to mention that Marty mentioned in a shoot interview that someone important from the office told him point blank that they saw more in Shawn than in him and that they were going to push Shawn. Shawn had a bad pill problem, but at the time it wasn't that bad yet. Everything I've heard from back then was that Marty was a liar, addicted to gambling, had a short temper, was stubborn did a lot of hardcore drugs, and drank a lot. I believe in Bret's book he even said that during one of Marty's comebacks he was supposed to have a long feud with Shawn, but he showed up for the match drunk, and was fired as soon as he got to the back. Don't forget all the prostitutes. |
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Post by Mac on Aug 10, 2011 22:17:28 GMT -5
Jannetty was as good a wrestler as Shawn, nowhere near him in the charisma dept. I think if the WWE felt they could have made a lot of money on him they would have found a way to deal with the demons.
He was a GREAT wrestler, when they brought him back to face Shawn after the window incident the biggest mistake the WWF made at the time was having him be a "Rocker" again. The Rock and Roll T shirt and jeans look worked for him, the 1988 neon and tassles looked ridiculous.
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