BigWill
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Post by BigWill on May 27, 2012 21:34:16 GMT -5
Kidman is the king of this in a bizarro kind of way, because he would wrestle people that would attempt a powerbomb for no reason other than to let Kidman faceplant them, even if they'd never done a powerbomb in any match, ever. It's the same thing with Rey Mysterio and sunset flips. Most superstars have never used the move before, but you always see them using it against Mysterio and end up getting kicked in the side of the head.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on May 27, 2012 21:39:22 GMT -5
Kidman is the king of this in a bizarro kind of way, because he would wrestle people that would attempt a powerbomb for no reason other than to let Kidman faceplant them, even if they'd never done a powerbomb in any match, ever. It's the same thing with Rey Mysterio and sunset flips. Most superstars have never used the move before, but you always see them using it against Mysterio and end up getting kicked in the side of the head. I wonder what the kayfabe in-match justification would be for such moves. Would be something like?: "Oh, he'll never see this coming!" -boot upside the temple- "I didn't see that coming. You know what? I deserve a breather! I'm just going to drape myself over the second rope for a........" I'd like to think this is the point where Mysterio's opponent takes a much-needed sabbatical and acquaints themselves with WWE's vast media library. Namely anything with Mysterio since mid-2002.
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JCBaggee
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Post by JCBaggee on May 27, 2012 22:07:40 GMT -5
Whenever Punk does the sleepy hands gesture, there's a roughly 80% chance he's not going to connect the GTS.
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Post by SeVeN: #TheBadGuy. on May 28, 2012 0:08:08 GMT -5
Anytime someone would bring a chair into a match with R.v.d is guranteed to get it kicked into their head.
Someone mentioned Austin and the piledriver. Even though it was because of his neck and time a piledriver or tombstone was attempted on him it was always a reverse to a back body drop. That's one reason why all of his feuds with Kane and Taker were odd, not once did they hit the tombstone
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on May 28, 2012 1:55:54 GMT -5
Lot of Taker's build-up seems to be impervious to a counter i.e. the apron-legdrop, snake-eyes/boot combo. On another note, why was Old School still called Old School even when 'Taker returned to his Old School character? Probably because they took the time to copyright the name. Triple H would occasionally go for the Pedigree way too close to the ropes to actually do the move and over he would go. Just like Razor.
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Post by sensi on May 28, 2012 2:01:24 GMT -5
Billy gunn - always attempted a stinger splash but always missed.
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Post by corndog on May 28, 2012 2:19:09 GMT -5
Anyone remember exactly when Flair actually hit a move off the top rope for the first time? I remember it being awesome, just don't remember which match. Well he hit a cross body that got rolled over and then he rolled it again to pin Harley Race for the title at Starrcade '83. He also used flying knees off the top rope quite a bit in the 80s, I remember one when the Horsemen held Rhoades down and it "broke hit arm". I think more recently, after not getting a move off the top ropes in years he hit a double ax handle smash, but I can't remember what exact match it was from. I just remember being stunned that it happened. Nonetheless, the move made alot more sense when he actually had history of doing successful and damaging things off the top rope.
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Post by KevFalcön07 on May 28, 2012 2:59:38 GMT -5
What about Kurt Angle's attempts at hitting a German suplex from off the arpon?
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on May 28, 2012 3:02:55 GMT -5
Anyone remember exactly when Flair actually hit a move off the top rope for the first time? I remember it being awesome, just don't remember which match. Well he hit a cross body that got rolled over and then he rolled it again to pin Harley Race for the title at Starrcade '83. He also used flying knees off the top rope quite a bit in the 80s, I remember one when the Horsemen held Rhoades down and it "broke hit arm". I think more recently, after not getting a move off the top ropes in years he hit a double ax handle smash, but I can't remember what exact match it was from. I just remember being stunned that it happened. Nonetheless, the move made alot more sense when he actually had history of doing successful and damaging things off the top rope. Flair has actually done the Double Ax off the top quite a few times in the last decade of his career. I know Jarrett took one, and he did it a couple times in his WWE run. It's just that his success ratio is still very low considering he'd go up there every match. And it only works if he's a babyface. If he is a heel, he would never hit his move off the top.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 28, 2012 4:13:02 GMT -5
It took Santino months to finally hit The Cobra. I thought it would be a running joke that he had this deadly finisher that nobody would ever see. I always said if I was a wrestler I'd always tease some deadly finisher but never get to pull it off... like do a bunch of random hand gestures then climb to the top rope, and have it immediately reversed
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Post by CM Parish on May 28, 2012 5:47:33 GMT -5
Anyone remember exactly when Flair actually hit a move off the top rope for the first time? I remember it being awesome, just don't remember which match. I *THINK* it was when he won the IC Title.. May have been off Benjamin? Edit: Carlito at Unforgiven 2005. He did it there for the first time i'm sure.
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Post by CM Parish on May 28, 2012 5:51:28 GMT -5
Yeah, Youtube "Ric Flair vs Carlito Unforgiven 2005 Part 2 "
2 mins 30 seconds in. Sign guy loved it.
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Post by crowwreak was WRONG on May 28, 2012 5:59:32 GMT -5
I've literally never seen Mr Kennedy/Anderson hit the Kenton bomb
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Post by mcstoklasa on May 28, 2012 7:04:48 GMT -5
Someone mentioned Austin and the piledriver. Even though it was because of his neck and time a piledriver or tombstone was attempted on him it was always a reverse to a back body drop. That's one reason why all of his feuds with Kane and Taker were odd, not once did they hit the tombstone True. He also never took a Last Ride. He did take an awesome Tombstone pre neck injury at Cold Day in Hell 97 I believe.
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Post by daime on May 28, 2012 7:44:42 GMT -5
I'm surprised no one's mentioned Jake Roberts and the DDT.
Almost always, he'd end up getting shoved off, backdropped, or the opponent would just drop down and roll out of the ring.
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Post by jkfcsf on May 28, 2012 12:53:34 GMT -5
Heel Daniel Bryan's diving headbutt. Heel Christian of last year had the same problem. I think his success rate was even lower than Bryan's when it came to that move.
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Post by steamboat1 on May 28, 2012 15:58:43 GMT -5
Anyone remember exactly when Flair actually hit a move off the top rope for the first time? I remember it being awesome, just don't remember which match. Well he hit a cross body that got rolled over and then he rolled it again to pin Harley Race for the title at Starrcade '83. He also used flying knees off the top rope quite a bit in the 80s, I remember one when the Horsemen held Rhoades down and it "broke hit arm". I think more recently, after not getting a move off the top ropes in years he hit a double ax handle smash, but I can't remember what exact match it was from. I just remember being stunned that it happened. Nonetheless, the move made alot more sense when he actually had history of doing successful and damaging things off the top rope. It was a match against Carlito during his IC run. I was there and he started to go up and I thought hmmmm Carlito is really far away, he better get moving if he wants this to look good. Then Flair majestically jumped off and hit a forearm. The only way I can describe the fan reaction is if you have ever seen the movie Coneheads, and there is the scene where Beldar lights the fireworks. The crowd was dead silent cause they were in shock, then exploded into maybe the loudest in-match pop of the night. It was like seeing Jesus or something lol.
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Post by CM Parish on May 29, 2012 13:08:23 GMT -5
Someone mentioned Austin and the piledriver. Even though it was because of his neck and time a piledriver or tombstone was attempted on him it was always a reverse to a back body drop. That's one reason why all of his feuds with Kane and Taker were odd, not once did they hit the tombstone True. He also never took a Last Ride. He did take an awesome Tombstone pre neck injury at Cold Day in Hell 97 I believe. I can't even imagine Austin taking a Last Ride.. The thought of it is completely surreal.
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Post by Branimal on May 29, 2012 13:46:56 GMT -5
Kidman is the king of this in a bizarro kind of way, because he would wrestle people that would attempt a powerbomb for no reason other than to let Kidman faceplant them, even if they'd never done a powerbomb in any match, ever. I actually came into this thread to post this.
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Post by Curt Hawkins Fan on May 29, 2012 17:16:51 GMT -5
Didn't Ric Flair beat Mr. McMahon by diving through a table from the top rope?
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