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Post by Gerard Gerard on Jun 12, 2012 22:01:31 GMT -5
I just want to get to the point the rest of the family actually, you know, finds out Walt is Heisenberg. Their ignorance and naivette is getting on my nerves. It's the same problem I have with Debra on Dexter. Dexter is a much, much worse show than Breaking Bad. At least it makes sense in Breaking Bad, where the only person who could realistically figure it out is Hank, who is gullible and just doesn't want to believe that his brother in law is a meth kingpin. {Spoiler}It's worth noting that Breaking Bad also takes place over the course of one year (although kept slightly grey according to Vince Gilligan on the insider podcast), as opposed to Dexter that spans many. My point being, a lot of Walt's seemingly erratic behaviour can still be attributed to cancer and overcoming it, having a baby, shot brother-in law, divorce et al.
Another thing is Hank is always portrayed as being a AAA detective, whose only downfall is his trusting Walt.
Also, Skyler copped on pretty quickly. In canon, of course.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2012 22:57:01 GMT -5
Dexter is a much, much worse show than Breaking Bad. At least it makes sense in Breaking Bad, where the only person who could realistically figure it out is Hank, who is gullible and just doesn't want to believe that his brother in law is a meth kingpin. {Spoiler}It's worth noting that Breaking Bad also takes place over the course of one year (although kept slightly grey according to Vince Gilligan on the insider podcast), as opposed to Dexter that spans many. My point being, a lot of Walt's seemingly erratic behaviour can still be attributed to cancer and overcoming it, having a baby, shot brother-in law, divorce et al.
Another thing is Hank is always portrayed as being a AAA detective, whose only downfall is his trusting Walt.
Also, Skyler copped on pretty quickly. In canon, of course. {Spoiler}Does he trust Walt though? The beauty of the dynamic between Walt and Hank to me is that it's hard to tell how much Hank really knows. Between Hank grilling Walt over Gale's diary, the drives to Los Pollos, Walter drunkenly telling Hank there's no way Gale could be Heisenberg. There's always this vibe that Hank is seeing through Walt's shit but is just waiting for him to slip.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2012 1:56:29 GMT -5
{Spoiler}It's worth noting that Breaking Bad also takes place over the course of one year (although kept slightly grey according to Vince Gilligan on the insider podcast), as opposed to Dexter that spans many. My point being, a lot of Walt's seemingly erratic behaviour can still be attributed to cancer and overcoming it, having a baby, shot brother-in law, divorce et al.
Another thing is Hank is always portrayed as being a AAA detective, whose only downfall is his trusting Walt.
Also, Skyler copped on pretty quickly. In canon, of course. {Spoiler}Does he trust Walt though? The beauty of the dynamic between Walt and Hank to me is that it's hard to tell how much Hank really knows. Between Hank grilling Walt over Gale's diary, the drives to Los Pollos, Walter drunkenly telling Hank there's no way Gale could be Heisenberg. There's always this vibe that Hank is seeing through Walt's s*** but is just waiting for him to slip. {Spoiler}Holy shit that's actually a good theory. That would be a amazing twist if that was to happen. But I don't think that's the case because he would of protected the family more and probably would of lost his shit at Walt a long time ago. Probably around the time after he was recovering from the hospital. I think he thinks that Walt might be experimenting with drugs like weed, LSD, etc and doesn't mind it if he's doing that based on his cancer situation. Example respecting Walters initial decision to die like a man, thinking he's doing pot with Pinkman, or not hounding him for smoking the Cuban cigar.
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Post by Mr Snrub on Jun 16, 2012 20:19:48 GMT -5
I just finished season 4 and wow, season 5 cannot get here any quicker. i have some questions though {Spoiler}Question 1: Did walt really poison Brock? If so, how and when did he get the chance to do so? Question 2: If Jesse didn't have the cigaratte with ricin on him, and brock didn't smoke it, where is that cigarette to now? I think somehow saul's associate took it off him in episode 12 Question 3: Did ted die, or break his neck or just get knocked out?
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Jun 16, 2012 20:28:16 GMT -5
I just finished season 4 and wow, season 5 cannot get here any quicker. i have some questions though {Spoiler}Question 1: Did walt really poison Brock? If so, how and when did he get the chance to do so? Question 2: If Jesse didn't have the cigaratte with ricin on him, and brock didn't smoke it, where is that cigarette to now? I think somehow saul's associate took it off him in episode 12 Question 3: Did ted die, or break his neck or just get knocked out? {Spoiler} 1. Yes. If I remember correctly, when Walt went to Jesse's house and got beat up, that's when he dropped off the plant/poison 2. Saul's associate did indeed take it off him 3. Dead.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Jun 16, 2012 21:35:41 GMT -5
I just finished season 4 and wow, season 5 cannot get here any quicker. i have some questions though {Spoiler}Question 1: Did walt really poison Brock? If so, how and when did he get the chance to do so? Question 2: If Jesse didn't have the cigaratte with ricin on him, and brock didn't smoke it, where is that cigarette to now? I think somehow saul's associate took it off him in episode 12 Question 3: Did ted die, or break his neck or just get knocked out? {Spoiler} 1. Yes. If I remember correctly, when Walt went to Jesse's house and got beat up, that's when he dropped off the plant/poison 2. Saul's associate did indeed take it off him 3. Dead. {Spoiler}If you look at Saul's secretary in the scene where Jesse goes to talk to Saul, you can see one of the papers she's shredding is Brock's school timetable.
Also, I've been researching the ramifications of eating 'Lily of the Valley, and it is only fatal is high, high doses. Walt only had one plant of it in his backyard, so it's somewhat evident that Walt knew he wouldn't be threatening Brock's life. Therefore, we're still to see Walt fully breaking bad.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Jun 16, 2012 21:38:54 GMT -5
{Spoiler} 1. Yes. If I remember correctly, when Walt went to Jesse's house and got beat up, that's when he dropped off the plant/poison 2. Saul's associate did indeed take it off him 3. Dead. {Spoiler}If you look at Saul's secretary in the scene where Jesse goes to talk to Saul, you can see one of the papers she's shredding is Brock's school timetable.
Also, I've been researching the ramifications of eating 'Lily of the Valley, and it is only fatal is high, high doses. Walt only had one plant of it in his backyard, so it's somewhat evident that Walt knew he wouldn't be threatening Brock's life. Therefore, we're still to see Walt fully breaking bad. {Spoiler}Convincing an old man to suicide-bomb Gus in an assisted living hospital isn't breaking bad enough? Hell, I always felt once Walt let Jesse's girl choke to death, he had crossed over entirely
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Post by Mr Snrub on Jun 16, 2012 22:29:40 GMT -5
{Spoiler}If you look at Saul's secretary in the scene where Jesse goes to talk to Saul, you can see one of the papers she's shredding is Brock's school timetable.
Also, I've been researching the ramifications of eating 'Lily of the Valley, and it is only fatal is high, high doses. Walt only had one plant of it in his backyard, so it's somewhat evident that Walt knew he wouldn't be threatening Brock's life. Therefore, we're still to see Walt fully breaking bad. {Spoiler}Convincing an old man to suicide-bomb Gus in an assisted living hospital isn't breaking bad enough? Hell, I always felt once Walt let Jesse's girl choke to death, he had crossed over entirely {Spoiler}Yeah once walt let jane die, i know he would only fall deeper in to the criminal mindset. Though I'm sure salamanca was glad to take out gus, even if it meant him going to
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Post by Stu on Jun 17, 2012 19:15:05 GMT -5
Am I looking into things too deeply, or do you think there's some meaning to Walt saying: {Spoiler}"I won" after blowing up Gus?
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Post by Back to being Cenanuff on Jun 17, 2012 20:59:35 GMT -5
Am I looking into things too deeply, or do you think there's some meaning to Walt saying: {Spoiler}"I won" after blowing up Gus? {Spoiler}I don't remember if he was calling Saul or Skylar, but he was basically saying either they were in the clear from Gus, or Jesse was back on their team. Tough to say, but it would depend on who he called.
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Post by Mr Snrub on Jun 17, 2012 21:00:12 GMT -5
Am I looking into things too deeply, or do you think there's some meaning to Walt saying: {Spoiler}"I won" after blowing up Gus? I read a theory that in season 5 either walt will somehow take over gus's territory, or will truly become the bad guy that we want to see taken down
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Post by nate5054 on Jun 17, 2012 22:11:12 GMT -5
The only show (at least hour long drama type) that I liked better than Breaking Bad was the Wire, and honestly, even then by the tiniest of slivers.
It's an excellent, excellent show.
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Post by 543Y2J on Jun 18, 2012 10:57:46 GMT -5
Its incredible how this show has been consistently good over ALL of the seasons it has been. I struggle to think of a bad story arc or character. Everything is perfect, from direction, casting, acting, cinematography, music etc. Bryan Cranston is the f***in man and has been since MITM. Hyped for the last season, can't wait to see it. If the last season goes as well in quality as the rest of it has then I have no complaints with them doing one movie. Depending on what they finish the series on. Obviously to keep the quality I would have the same cast and crew. They just can't seem to do any wrong with this story *knocks on wood* www.darkhorizons.com/news/24206/-breaking-bad-might-get-a-movie
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Post by Mr Snrub on Jun 18, 2012 18:07:52 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2012 22:04:46 GMT -5
Am I looking into things too deeply, or do you think there's some meaning to Walt saying: {Spoiler}"I won" after blowing up Gus? {Spoiler}I don't think it goes too deep in terms of what's next for Walt. I don't think he's actively plotting his next move in the drug trade. I think "I won" is more of a statement on Walt's inflated ego and how lost he is in this world he got himself into. Instead of saying "I'm free" or "it's over", it's "I won". I think he's gonna try and go back to life as it was but there's no way he's getting this "victory" out of his mind. It will hit him that his work isn't done, mundane family life isn't gonna give him any thrills.
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Post by Rican on Jun 18, 2012 22:06:20 GMT -5
I think Jesse or Hank dies before the show is over. Possibly this season. The only way the writers get everyone to hate Walt is if he kills one of them.
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Post by Yami Daimao on Jun 24, 2012 23:36:56 GMT -5
Yo, yo, yo! 1-4-8; 3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ. What up, biatch? Leave at the tone.What else is there to say about this show that hasn't already been said? One of the best shows on television, and the best drama series ever IMO. Walter's transformation is a f***ing joyride. {Spoiler}I was absolutely stunned when it was revealed that Walt was the one who poisoned Brock. When Jesse finds out, he's gonna flip his shit and is going to end up killing Walt like he intended to in episode 12.
And Gus' "exit" was all kinds of badass.
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Post by The Line on Jun 25, 2012 1:09:22 GMT -5
Re-watching the first three seasons again, hoping that Season 4 is Netflix-Instant bound extremely soon. It's easily in my top 5 Television Dramas of all time(along with Mad Men, The X-Files, LOST, and The Twilight Zone). I think if other shows had the subject matter and content that BB has, it would be played too over the top and wild. However, in the BB universe, the crazy, wild, almost-unbelievable stuff is reacted to appropriately by the characters. (Most of) The characters aren't Hollywood badasses, but rather normal people with deep, dynamic relationship and interactions, and that's what I love most. Non-criminals don't stare down the barrel of a gun with no fear in their eyes. Major events send shockwaves throughout all those affected. (Most of) the characters aren't able to kill indiscriminately, or even witness a death, without it rattling them for a while, at least initially(which eventually became a HUGE problem on LOST). Suspicious behavior arouses suspicion. Things too many shows either never establish or lose over the duration of the show. Because of that, it makes you feel like you're watching real people. Mad Men is very similar, except, obviously, much more low-key and subtle . Also, it doesn't feel like you're just watching an excuse for beautiful shots and realistic gore(both of which the show excels at), whereas other shows may. I've stayed pretty in the dark as to the happenings of S4, with one huge exception {Spoiler}Gus's fate so I'm really looking forward to it!
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Post by The Gambler Fan on Jun 25, 2012 2:19:24 GMT -5
I'm mad my room mate moved out in April. I took over the cable bill and thought that Dish was a better deal. So I bought Dish and was very happy for it. But the only reason why I wanted cable is so I can watch Mad Men and Breaking Bad. Every other show I watch on Netflix or another internet site. Well now AMC is leaving Dish network and I am mad. Breaking Bad as well as the Wire and two shows that I will say are perfect. BB is a rare show that gets better each season.
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Post by Stu on Jun 25, 2012 4:24:26 GMT -5
{Spoiler}
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