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Post by Ben Wyatt on Dec 1, 2011 7:57:34 GMT -5
The thing about HHH is that while you can argue him being overpushed, the man has stayed perpetually over for 13 years. That level of overness IMO justifies his push. This. The fact is, fans still love the guy. They've never turned against him like they have for say, Cena.
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Post by Germansuplex on Dec 1, 2011 9:25:54 GMT -5
Overpushed: Bobby Lashley
Underpushed: MVP
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Post by BAM! on Dec 1, 2011 9:39:59 GMT -5
Overpushed - Miz and HHH Underpushed- Chris Masters and Santino Santino was OVER-pushed. THE COBRA, need I say more?
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Dec 1, 2011 10:12:24 GMT -5
Overpushed - Miz and HHH Underpushed- Chris Masters and Santino Santino was OVER-pushed. THE COBRA, need I say more? When he first started, yes, but after the heel turn, he's been pushed just right. He consistently gets loud reactions, and is used as a mid-carder. Anyone as over as Santino and in the mid-card isn't over pushed. And someone mentioned Jeff Hardy as overpushed, I can't agree with that. There was a time when he was up there with Cena in terms of merch being moved, and may have been ahead of him. Jeff was getting huge pops, and even the IWC wanted him to be WWE or World Champion.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Dec 1, 2011 10:29:12 GMT -5
Overpushed - Miz and HHH Underpushed- Chris Masters and Santino Santino was OVER-pushed. THE COBRA, need I say more? THE COBRA which gets massive pops every time it's teased?
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Dec 1, 2011 10:29:48 GMT -5
begins and ends with Bobby Lashley. most guys on the roster would kill for that kind of push. talk about being ungrateful.
as for underpushed, just what was the point in Kaval winning NXT2 if you were just going to job him out? he and Evan Bourne could've been the centerpieces of an awesome cruiserweight division, plus Kaval has that "legit" aura that'd make people buy him kicking the crap out of the bigger guys.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2011 10:32:58 GMT -5
begins and ends with Bobby Lashley. most guys on the roster would kill for that kind of push. talk about being ungrateful. as for underpushed, just what was the point in Kaval winning NXT2 if you were just going to job him out? he and Evan Bourne could've been the centerpieces of an awesome cruiserweight division, plus Kaval has that "legit" aura that'd make people buy him kicking the crap out of the bigger guys. I pretty much have to agree with you on this one. When I was getting into wrestling back in '07, I'll admit I marked for Lashley, especially to beat Umaga. But, looking back... damn that guy was undeserving of a push of that magnitude. And, besides... "you bathturds". Need I say anymore. Kaval was an odd case. You had a guy who could've helped out redefine a class that had long been the WWE's job division and he quickly became a punchline as his character would get his ass kicked, refused to have the match called, and get his ass kicked again.
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Post by cabbageboy on Dec 1, 2011 10:39:21 GMT -5
The dilemma with overpushed is that usually someone stops getting that push and you realize they've been overpushed. For instance:
Overpushed: Chris Masters circa 2005-06. Underpushed: Chris Masters circa 2010.
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Post by FailedGimmick on Dec 1, 2011 10:48:50 GMT -5
Tyson Kidd and Ted Dibiase are underpushed and it's disappointing, as they are two of the better mid card workers in the 'E right now.
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Post by norsisclouds on Dec 1, 2011 10:49:50 GMT -5
The dilemma with overpushed is that usually someone stops getting that push and you realize they've been overpushed. For instance: Overpushed: Chris Masters circa 2005-06. Underpushed: Chris Masters circa 2010. I never understood the WWE management's fascination with Chris Masters. He was just a weird looking overly big guy. There was nothing masterful or I would consider a masterpiece around his gross overly enhanced muscles...and to make matters worse, he couldn't even talk or do a lot in the ring. He was just always there to me...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2011 11:00:28 GMT -5
The dilemma with overpushed is that usually someone stops getting that push and you realize they've been overpushed. For instance: Overpushed: Chris Masters circa 2005-06. Underpushed: Chris Masters circa 2010. I never understood the WWE management's fascination with Chris Masters. He was just a weird looking overly big guy. There was nothing masterful or I would consider a masterpiece around his gross overly enhanced muscles...and to make matters worse, he couldn't even talk or do a lot in the ring. He was just always there to me... Masters during his "overpush": Weird-looking. Masters during his "underpush" Good-looking. That's how I look at it. I wasn't a Masters fan the first time around, but he did clean himself off, got off the 'roids and improved himself in the ring, so I do applaud him for turning his career around.
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Post by sbia on Dec 1, 2011 11:02:56 GMT -5
OverpushedLesnar-Very talented wrestler and awesome physique but he was getting barely any heat or "Goldberg" chants during his mega push.He didn't get a huge reaction until Summerslam 2002 and that was in New York with "smarks" having knowledge of Rock leaving again. JBL,Sheamus and Del Rio got forced on fans too. Santino was OVER-pushed. THE COBRA, need I say more? When he first started, yes, but after the heel turn, he's been pushed just right. He consistently gets loud reactions, and is used as a mid-carder. Anyone as over as Santino and in the mid-card isn't over pushed. And someone mentioned Jeff Hardy as overpushed, I can't agree with that. There was a time when he was up there with Cena in terms of merch being moved, and may have been ahead of him. Jeff was getting huge pops, and even the IWC wanted him to be WWE or World Champion. Yeah,I don't like the guy at all but there's no denying Jeff Hardy was super over. He's a good example of fans choosing a wrestler and getting a WWE/World Title reign due to massive popularity.
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Post by CM Parish on Dec 1, 2011 11:06:25 GMT -5
Someone seriously said Brock was overpushed?
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Post by sbia on Dec 1, 2011 11:18:36 GMT -5
Someone seriously said Brock was overpushed? Yeah,I'm that guy. The guy had a phenomenal abilities in the ring.I'm not denying that but he was overpushed.
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Post by crimsonwolf on Dec 1, 2011 12:38:53 GMT -5
begins and ends with Bobby Lashley. most guys on the roster would kill for that kind of push. talk about being ungrateful. He left after they fired his Girlfriend. I'm not defending him, but choosing his relationship/personal life over his job doesn't make him ungrateful.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2011 12:40:05 GMT -5
Underpushed: Fricken DDP
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Post by norsisclouds on Dec 1, 2011 12:47:49 GMT -5
I never understood the WWE management's fascination with Chris Masters. He was just a weird looking overly big guy. There was nothing masterful or I would consider a masterpiece around his gross overly enhanced muscles...and to make matters worse, he couldn't even talk or do a lot in the ring. He was just always there to me... Masters during his "overpush": Weird-looking. Masters during his "underpush" Good-looking. That's how I look at it. I wasn't a Masters fan the first time around, but he did clean himself off, got off the 'roids and improved himself in the ring, so I do applaud him for turning his career around. That's true. I barely recognized him off the roids and with the facial hair.
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Post by BrodietheSlayer on Dec 1, 2011 12:57:03 GMT -5
Overpushed: Bobby Lashley....I know WWE was hoping for Goldberg 2, but it never quite worked out, as Lashley was done the second he started to speak. Yet, WWE kept super pushing him anyways.
Underpushed: Raven......I mean, c'mon, when both WCW and TNA did better with a guy than WWE, what can you really say?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2011 13:24:54 GMT -5
Most overpushed to me is Michelle McCool.
Say what you will about all of the people already mentioned, but they were at least over to SOME degree. Michelle had an entire division built around her for years and even on her last days she was coming out to crickets.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Dec 1, 2011 13:39:37 GMT -5
Overpushed - John Cena
Underpushed - Kaval
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