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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2011 13:39:55 GMT -5
Overpushed: HHH. No one else, not even Cena at his worst, comes close.
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Post by Branimal on Dec 1, 2011 13:42:07 GMT -5
Not sure on the overpushed thing - does Twitter count? Underpushed is easily DDP. Like a poster had already said, he was totally wasted. There was no reason to treat him like that. I know the guy was old but c'mon.. he could still put on some great matches.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Dec 1, 2011 13:59:25 GMT -5
Most Overpushed: Eve Torres. People have said Triple H, Jeff Hardy, Brock Lesnar, and John Cena; what do they all have in common? That they were shoved down our throats? Yes. However, all of them were also at some point extremely over, so it was more of a case of overpushing because they were what worked, like how almost every other film is a comic or book adaptation. Eve, on the other hand, has been shoved down our collective throats over and over again as the face of the Divas division despite her "and the crowd goes meh" reception, a reception that almost borderlines on Conway-levels of apathy. With the exception of maybe Chris Masters in 06, almost everyone mentioned for Overpushed was over to some degree. Not Eve.
Most Underpushed: So many people have been stated that I'd agree with, particularly Kaval, but I'm gonna go kind of outside the fence with this one: Mike Knox. He was a good big man that was both faster and more versatile than he needed to be, and after ECW, he was pretty much wasted.
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Post by BRAINFADE on Dec 1, 2011 14:16:48 GMT -5
Underpushed: Scotty Goldman a.k.a Colt Cabana. I still believe that he is the single biggest wasted talent in WWE in the past 10 years.
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Post by johnnybaseball, Mantaur Fan on Dec 1, 2011 14:36:16 GMT -5
Overpushed: Randy Orton (he's good and he's very over, but he's not my guy, you know?) Underpushed: Dolph Ziggler (although that seems to be changing)
Don't totally get the love for Kaval; maybe I would have liked him more if he had stuck around.
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Post by 543Y2J on Dec 1, 2011 14:52:11 GMT -5
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Post by icemansiva on Dec 1, 2011 15:00:00 GMT -5
over : cm punk.. i mean 5 world titles, countless mes, promo time, feuds with cena, taker, orton..
under: shelton benjamin, paul burchill, billy regal
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Dec 1, 2011 15:11:15 GMT -5
Over-pushed in recent memory hands down has to be Drew McIntyre. This guy was prepped to be a World Champion from day one, despite being one of the most boring overall wrestlers on the whole roster in terms of in ring ability, gimmick, and mic skills. Then we see him not losing any matches and having his losses "expunged" for no reason so he'd remain undefeated. It's even been said that McIntyre was originally supposed to win MITB and then the World Title around WrestleMania 26. Forget what the guy is like now, but back at that time, McIntyre didn't deserve shit and ALMOST got everything handed to him for nothing.
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Post by Celgress on Dec 1, 2011 15:12:20 GMT -5
Overpushed: John Cena
Underpushed: MVP
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Post by Savage Gambino on Dec 1, 2011 15:38:15 GMT -5
Over-pushed in recent memory hands down has to be Drew McIntyre. This guy was prepped to be a World Champion from day one, despite being one of the most boring overall wrestlers on the whole roster in terms of in ring ability, gimmick, and mic skills. Then we see him not losing any matches and having his losses "expunged" for no reason so he'd remain undefeated. It's even been said that McIntyre was originally supposed to win MITB and then the World Title around WrestleMania 26. Forget what the guy is like now, but back at that time, McIntyre didn't deserve s*** and ALMOST got everything handed to him for nothing. Ooh, almost forgot about that. That first McIntyre push on Smackdown practically paved the way for guys like Crimson and ADR as far as "big deal, very quick" pushes go. How the mighty have fallen.
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Post by The Punisher on Dec 1, 2011 15:56:52 GMT -5
Over-pushed in recent memory hands down has to be Drew McIntyre. This guy was prepped to be a World Champion from day one, despite being one of the most boring overall wrestlers on the whole roster in terms of in ring ability, gimmick, and mic skills. Then we see him not losing any matches and having his losses "expunged" for no reason so he'd remain undefeated. It's even been said that McIntyre was originally supposed to win MITB and then the World Title around WrestleMania 26. Forget what the guy is like now, but back at that time, McIntyre didn't deserve s*** and ALMOST got everything handed to him for nothing. Agree completely, McIntyre was just so bloody boring from the minute I first saw him - yet he kept being shoved down people's throats. I also agree about Cena, Lesnar and HHH. Lashley I think picked his personal life over his job - there's nothing wrong with that - but I think most people would have killed for that push and maybe didn't like to see him turn it down. Underpushed? I agree about Kaval, up until recently I would have said Daniel Bryan as well, but now hopefully he'll get a another chance at the WHC.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Dec 1, 2011 16:24:21 GMT -5
Overpushed: Randy Orton (he's good and he's very over, but he's not my guy, you know?) Underpushed: Dolph Ziggler (although that seems to be changing) Don't totally get the love for Kaval; maybe I would have liked him more if he had stuck around. People. Kaval. Got. Fired.At least, that's what he claims, and MVP backed him up.
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Post by Mac on Dec 1, 2011 16:47:21 GMT -5
Del Rio, Swagger, Sheamus, Ziggler. Midcard young heels made world champion for no reason at all. It's been one of the biggest disasters in the past 5 years that didnt result in death. They devalued the world title by holding it meaning any loser midcarder whos mildly over can hold the belt, and now that they've already had the title any future push wouldnt be a "climb to the top" but a climb BACK to the top where they've already been
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Post by MichaelMartini on Dec 2, 2011 4:56:14 GMT -5
Overpushed - Miz and HHH Underpushed- Chris Masters and Santino Santino was OVER-pushed. THE COBRA, need I say more? Which gets pops, yet we hardly ever see him on Raw. But I'm not even talking about his face run. I'm talking about the Honkameter days when he was the most entertaining guy on the roster. Never understood why they dropped that and had him do the Santina thing.
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Post by salTy on Dec 2, 2011 6:00:48 GMT -5
I think people are getting confused. This is most overpushed/underpushed since the Attitude era. If you seriously think Kaval, then okay, but I'm throwing you some funny looks.
Overpushed: HHH--always booked the winner, even when he loses. He's good enough in the ring to please the smarks, and is always the "cool" guy in any feud, so the casual crowd loves him as well. He's popular, no doubt, but he'll never be Hogan, Austin, Rock, or Flair. It just isn't in the cards, and it won't matter how often he's booked over people.
Underpushed: DDP--one of the top guys in WCW. Had name recognition and star power going into WWE, but for some reason was fed to 'Taker and then given a ridiculous gimmick that wouldn't get over if Austin was doing it. Why did they do this to him? They just should have let him be DDP and do his thing. This is one case where Vince couldn't let an idea from another company come in and overshadow his ideas, so he had to take control and completely put a new spin on it. I don't know if he set DDP up to fail, but he certainly didn't help him by basically hitting the reset button and killing any momentum he brought into the company.
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Post by HBL on Dec 2, 2011 14:45:00 GMT -5
Overpushed: Recently,Del Rio.Rumble,MITB and the WWE title in the same year,and he's still no different.
Underpushed: Masters,I saw WWE Championship potential in him to be honest.
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