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Post by joebob27 on Jun 26, 2012 9:08:48 GMT -5
I think this match is Jericho's punishment for the flag kicking. I mean seriously, who the hell is taking the bumps?
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Post by joebob27 on Jun 26, 2012 9:18:05 GMT -5
Also, I said this in another MITB thread and I'll preface again by saying this is awful short term business (just because it would probably be a surprise).... but I think the Rock should win MITB if he's available to work the show. And the chances have now gone up from 1 in million to 1 in 100K.
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Post by Legion on Jun 26, 2012 9:52:25 GMT -5
They need to add at least another two guys, to avoid those guys showing up in the 'up and comers' MItB match
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Post by Bo Rida on Jun 26, 2012 9:54:54 GMT -5
I hope they add Vince to the match.
Anyway I think the WWE title match will still go on last to allow the chance of a cash-in, maybe Kane will the MitB and AJ will help him cash it in for the title.
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Post by D2: Sweet & Sour Edition on Jun 26, 2012 10:02:30 GMT -5
For some reason, I have this odd feeling Ziggler is getting the belt this Friday night. That would free up Sheamus and ADR to be added to the Champions MITB.
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Post by metylerca on Jun 26, 2012 10:59:04 GMT -5
For some reason, I have this odd feeling Ziggler is getting the belt this Friday night. That would free up Sheamus and ADR to be added to the Champions MITB. Leaving Ziggler to defend against whom??
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Post by Mayonnaise on Jun 26, 2012 11:16:06 GMT -5
For some reason, I have this odd feeling Ziggler is getting the belt this Friday night. That would free up Sheamus and ADR to be added to the Champions MITB. Leaving Ziggler to defend against whom?? A face Jack Swag....yeah cannot finish that with a straight face.
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Post by sunnytaker on Jun 26, 2012 11:50:41 GMT -5
Whoever wins this match, they'll be the most likely to cash in and fail in quite some time. i'm going with this route as well. the way they've been hyping how "no one's ever failed to cash in and win the title" you kinda need a big name to be the first or whoever the newer person is that fails is pretty much done for the rest of their run in the WWE. Seeing one of those four lose their cash in isn;t going to hurt their careers any. for the hell of it i'll say it's jericho since he seems to enjoy that sort of thing (see "getting carried out of the ring kicking and screaming after getting fired from the WWE after losing to Cena" a few years back). also ties into his "i invented" it thing by becoming the first person to screw it up.
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Post by BigWill on Jun 26, 2012 12:12:12 GMT -5
I'd rather they just turn it into an ordinary fatal 4 way match, as most of these guys involved have no business even trying to climb a ladder. Cena, Jericho, and Kane have all been parts of some excellent Ladder/TLC matches and have proved they can perform very well in them. Big Show is the only person to worry about. Being in a Ladder match that happened to be good and being the reason that a Ladder match was good are two very different things.
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Post by Hawk Hart on Jun 26, 2012 12:38:52 GMT -5
Does this mean the other MITB will be guys that have never won the big one because that's the only way this match makes sense.
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Post by Been burned too many times on Jun 26, 2012 12:47:21 GMT -5
Not really.
All of the guys announced so far could easily get title shots anytime they want to.(Jericho, Kane and Big Show just had title shots in the last few months/last year and Cena's a 12 time champion)
Contrast to that it's hard for guys like Tyson Kidd, Cody Rhodes, Kofi Kingston, etc to get title shots. So shouldn't they get the opportunity?
Just seems like a waste of the concept.
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Post by The Ichi on Jun 26, 2012 12:59:28 GMT -5
Not really. All of the guys announced so far could easily get title shots anytime they want to.(Jericho, Kane and Big Show just had title shots in the last few months/last year and Cena's a 12 time champion) Contrast to that it's hard for guys like Tyson Kidd, Cody Rhodes, Kofi Kingston, etc to get title shots. So shouldn't they get the opportunity? Just seems like a waste of the concept. If they want an opportunity they should step up to the plate instead of waiting for the chance to win a red (or blue) briefcase so they can run down to the ring and lay on top of a beaten up champion for 3 seconds. That's hardly making a new star, and that was a problem I had with MITB. Also, I'm hoping Cena wins this, as you know he'll cash in the RVD way and we'll probably get another good Punk/Cena match out of it.
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Post by Been burned too many times on Jun 26, 2012 14:03:50 GMT -5
Not really. All of the guys announced so far could easily get title shots anytime they want to.(Jericho, Kane and Big Show just had title shots in the last few months/last year and Cena's a 12 time champion) Contrast to that it's hard for guys like Tyson Kidd, Cody Rhodes, Kofi Kingston, etc to get title shots. So shouldn't they get the opportunity? Just seems like a waste of the concept. If they want an opportunity they should step up to the plate instead of waiting for the chance to win a red (or blue) briefcase so they can run down to the ring and lay on top of a beaten up champion for 3 seconds. That's hardly making a new star, and that was a problem I had with MITB. Step up to what plate? A lot of guys aren't getting an opportunity to even see the plate much less get off the bench. I agree that winning and laying on top of someone doesn't make a new star. But neither does giving an instant #1 contenders briefcase to a 12 time champion and veterans who could easily get title shots if they wanted to.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Jun 26, 2012 14:07:46 GMT -5
Jericho, Cena, Big Show and Kane.....in a ladder match?
....Yeah, pass.
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Post by metylerca on Jun 26, 2012 14:16:15 GMT -5
Cena, Jericho, and Kane have all been parts of some excellent Ladder/TLC matches and have proved they can perform very well in them. Big Show is the only person to worry about. Being in a Ladder match that happened to be good and being the reason that a Ladder match was good are two very different things. Jericho in ladder matches is excellent to begin with. Cena/Edge was awesome on both ends. Kane running rampant in previous TLC and MITB matches was fun to see. Big Show doing the same at MITB2010 was also cool to see, especially with his custom ladder being used and whatnot. I fail to see any validation with your statement. I get that they won't be doing springboard plancha 450's onto each other, but that doesn't mean they can't come up with other interesting ideas to make the match entertaining. Then again... Cena isn't really well liked around these parts for... well being on the show. There's been a Jericho backlash since his (in all honesty) underwhelming return. It's gotten to the point where people are wishing he'd go away again. Kane since he came back masked hasn't been the same strong style wrestler he was even last summer. Save for his performance at No Way Out, he's been pretty much despised around these parts for... well being pushed again. Big Show... officialfan.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=WWE&action=display&thread=438340. Need I say more? It's no wonder this match is the equivalent of pulling teeth around here. It's as though WWE decided to put 4 internet heat magnets into one match that the internet loves to see and just watch the reactions. At least it wasn't a Fatal 4 Way Iron Man match.
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Post by Arrow on Jun 26, 2012 14:18:51 GMT -5
Cena, Jericho, and Kane have all been parts of some excellent Ladder/TLC matches and have proved they can perform very well in them. Big Show is the only person to worry about. Being in a Ladder match that happened to be good and being the reason that a Ladder match was good are two very different things. If you can watch Cena vs. Edge TLC and say that Cena only happened to be a part of a Ladder match that's good, then I don't what to tell you. Ditto Kane in the TLC and at least two of Money in the Bank matches he was a part of. None of those are at all the same without them.
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Post by avenger on Jun 26, 2012 14:23:26 GMT -5
Well, it's not exactly a cast of characters that can really do high spots, so they'll definitely have to cook up something unique between the four of them, I'll give them that, unless more people get added to it. But I don't think there's any other former -WWE- champions on the roster since Trips'll be busy, unless you want to stick Crazy ECW Bandana McMahon in there. They're not the only four they can add, are they? You've still got Rey, Del Rio, Miz, Sheamus (if they have him drop the belt between now and then) who can enter.
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Post by avenger on Jun 26, 2012 14:25:13 GMT -5
Orton, Edge, Kane, Jericho, etc. have been in these before. The only 'purpose' is to create a story. The "New guy wins and cashes in" is only done because they lack creativity most of the time. That and it can at least be used to put someone new over. Right now, you have three guys nearing retirement - two of which have retired before - and one who is a moment's away from his career ending due to his twice-broken neck, and the roster is the most lacking in star power it's been in years. This is the time to elevate new people and WWE can't be assed to do that. Whoever wins is going to cash it in the next night on the 1000th Raw anyway, so unless you want to take the belt off CM Punk (or Bryan if he wins at MITB), this is the best way of having the first ever failed cash-in without it hurting the guy doing the cash-in. If a face wins, they can announce the cash-in at the start of the show and build to it.
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Post by Arrow on Jun 26, 2012 14:27:36 GMT -5
Well, it's not exactly a cast of characters that can really do high spots, so they'll definitely have to cook up something unique between the four of them, I'll give them that, unless more people get added to it. But I don't think there's any other former -WWE- champions on the roster since Trips'll be busy, unless you want to stick Crazy ECW Bandana McMahon in there. They're not the only four they can add, are they? You've still got Rey, Del Rio, Miz, Sheamus (if they have him drop the belt between now and then) who can enter. Sheamus most certainly won't be losing the belt anytime soon, del Rio will likely end up facing him at Money in the Bank, and Miz is filming a movie. Rey Mysterio could work, but considering he's just coming off an injury, I doubt they'd want to put him in a highly physical Ladder match.
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Post by avenger on Jun 26, 2012 14:28:44 GMT -5
For some reason, I have this odd feeling Ziggler is getting the belt this Friday night. That would free up Sheamus and ADR to be added to the Champions MITB. Leaving Ziggler to defend against whom?? Christian? Cody?
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