Jazzman
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Post by Jazzman on Dec 10, 2012 14:53:05 GMT -5
Here's what I thin of now with you Gus.
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Post by TOO SWEET on Dec 10, 2012 14:54:20 GMT -5
Well, Gus. Since you're on: So, forgetting/ignoring me, refute the evidence against Zack Morris. Please address the points I've made against him and explain why you believe him to be town. Can you do this now? Because our conversation conveniently died last time.
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Post by TOO SWEET on Dec 10, 2012 14:54:37 GMT -5
EBWOP: Pie.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Dec 10, 2012 14:56:33 GMT -5
Better idea: BOTH of you show some real proof that Latino is Mafia. Because NONE of you has done that while I've shown why Spartan is the one who must be lynched.
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Post by Jazzman on Dec 10, 2012 15:00:08 GMT -5
Better idea: BOTH of you show some real proof that Latino is Mafia. Because NONE of you has done that while I've shown why Spartan is the one who must be lynched. I'm not falling for this one Gus. I've already explained how the end game of this is going to go. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO WE LYNCH TODAY GUS!!!
The circumstantial evidence, which is really any of have, leans much stronger in the direction of Zack. Suck it up and help the town. We want to lynch Zack. If you were totally in support of the town you'd do the same.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Dec 10, 2012 15:04:17 GMT -5
My vote stays with Spartan. I urge Latino and Magiconz to vote for him as well because HARD EVIDENCE nails him as Mafia.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Dec 10, 2012 15:30:34 GMT -5
Street not being able to be converted does bring up some questions. Magiconz, are you sure you didn't block the cult that night?
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Post by TOO SWEET on Dec 10, 2012 15:34:27 GMT -5
*sigh* Waiting on Magiconz to break the eventual 2-2 split. Gus... when this game is over, and our characters/identities are revealed, I sincerely, from the bottom of my heart, hope this was sort of gambit you were trying to pull. Because if not, I want you to realize, your play this game has been uncooperative, way too narrow minded/illogical, and has turned me off of mafia games as a whole. You've killed day phases fighting with Jono, and constantly needed to bring the attention on you, instead of us putting Zack Morris under the spotlight like he should have been this day phase. You're playing the martyr for mafia, purely because of another one of your half-baked theories. Occam's razor, Gus. You're making way too many assumptions/leaps in logic, when the truth is staring right at you. SNS voted for Zack to blend in. Morris has been following B Natural's lead all game. B Natural tried to stall a lynch to avoid losing a mafia member last day phase. I know you don't believe me, but you know Jazz is town. Listen to him. The reason people are getting angry with you is that we present a ton of evidence and you respond with "I'm not convinced! Prove it to me". And short of Morris actually saying "I am mafia", it's going to be impossible to convince you due to you being too steadfast in your thoughts/theories to listen to logic. This is why Peg gave up talking to you. This is why Jono was celebrating that he was gone from the game. Gus, this process has been ridiculously frustrating, and realize that even saying just all of this is about the angriest I've gotten on this forum. The inactivity in this game has been ridiculous, yet unbelievably, we are still in a chance to win this. Every other time town has won, its been due to very clearly revealing writeups. This can be the first game where town has had a legitimate victory, and it sucks to see us coming so close, and possibly seeing this go all up in smoke due to your steadfast refusal to listen to logic/evidence, Gus. I'm more than sorry for my part of this overdrawn, stress induced, aggravating rant, but this post was purely to vent about how irritating this particular game has actually been for me. I'm a person that analyses things. I review evidence, look over past day phase actions and try to get insight into what others are thinking. And its very discouraging to do all of this, deduce that Morris is the final mafia member, and then have all my evidence thrown out of the window because someone refuses to listen to a word I say. Sorry for the outburst, and as always, I won't let anything in this mafia game affect my friendship/respect/common courtesy outside of it. I'm done fighting, and await to see what Magiconz does. But Morris is mafia. And this is freakin' ridiculous. {Spoiler} PIE.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Dec 10, 2012 17:04:32 GMT -5
Except Morris is NOT the father.
And by "the father" I mean "mafia."
Morris is NOT mafia.
As for why Mr B Natural didn't lynch me when he had the chance, let me go back and try to figure out that voting phase. I thought he wasn't around in time to place the hammer on me, but I can always double check that.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Dec 10, 2012 17:21:15 GMT -5
The problem is that your blending theory does not work. This is not my first Mafia game. I've played two of these AS Mafia. I've NEVER seen an instance of the whole idea. Yet you're pushing it in an effort to frame someone you know is Town. You've tried to push it repeatedly the past two Day Phases to try to stall lynches on Mafia members and I've shot it down both times.
Jono wasn't celebrating because he was gone. He was celebrating because he was dead set I was allied with Sharpshooter and the others.
I've had to work like a madman just to get us to this point. And I've actually been proven right about certain people and had to work in vain most of the time to try to get everyone in the town to see that. I was suspicious of Sharpshooter since we started. For good reason. I fought to keep Brad in the game because I thought he was Town. I was right. I had suspected SNS of being Mafia. I was right. I was the one who used B's identity claim to nail him as Mafia. And yet even when I've been right, I've had the majority of the remaining players refuse to listen simply because I screwed up on ONE PERSON.
And as it stands now, after all the frustrations i've had in this game and in Phoenix Wright Mafia, I've already decided never to play a Mafia game again. I'll host a couple of them, but that's as far as it goes.
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Post by Allison Reynolds on Dec 10, 2012 17:28:26 GMT -5
GM note: Guys remember, this is just a game. Mafia games get heated sometimes, there are a lot of frustrations sometimes, I understand. Just try not to let these games effect you all too much. We already had people quit the forums due to these, just relax, cool it a bit and remember, it's just a game.
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Post by TOO SWEET on Dec 10, 2012 17:44:16 GMT -5
zack Morris: Yeah, if you could find anything, that would help you out a lot. The B Natural stalling is the biggest thing against you right now. I'm going to be blunt, its going to be very hard to convince me to unvote. But yeah, if you find anything worth noting or something that could prove your innocence, obviously point it out. Also, while you're here, what do you think of Gus' defense of you? And who do you suspect as mafia (please provide evidence/reasoning as well)? It really is between you and Magiconz in my eyes. If you're town, I'm the one already set up for the chopping block tomorrow. Which would mean the mafia would win. So if you can find anything to prove your innocence, that helps us out a ton. @gus: I'm pushing blending because it makes a lot more sense than a usurper. And as for proof, B Natural voted against Sharpshooter. Not because he was a usurper, but because he was blending in with the crowd. The mafia member voted for B Natural. B Natural wasn't godfather, so it was blending in. These are two confirmed cases of mafia voting for mafia, and in both instances it isn't because of a usurper. That's why blending in seems much more reasonable to me. And as an aside... screwed up on one person? After the Latino botch, you've also went after: Having been wrong about Latino has forced me to change my Mafia list, but not by much: Evil M SNS ritt Pegasus And if there is a fifth, I'm willing to point at H as being a Mafia Usurper. Meaning if I had to choose who I'd lynch, it'd be either M or H. That's 1 of 5 right, and 4 of 5 wrong. Since then, other town members you've targeted are me, Jono, Berg, and probably more, but I don't feel like looking. Also, the pushing of the usurper theory is a weak crutch instead of just admitting you might have been wrong about someone. After seeing Queen Mab's post:
Okay. Honestly, Queen Mab is right. This is a game, and I don't think we should be getting this heated about this.
In the interest of fairness, I'll let you get the final words, but from here-on out, I'm only going to discuss evidence with you or actions we should take during the day phase. Not problems I've had with your playing style or anything else.
Sorry if my earlier words were a bit hostile.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 10, 2012 18:32:40 GMT -5
I'm sorry but I still can't overlook the fact that B Natural dragged his feet when it came to voting for Zach Morris. Maybe we're wrong but this looks to be the best choice right now. So,
Vote: Zach Morris is Insane
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Post by Jazzman on Dec 10, 2012 18:43:41 GMT -5
VOTE: Zack Morris Is Insane
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Dec 10, 2012 18:48:54 GMT -5
An innocent man has just been lynched. AGAIN.
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Post by TOO SWEET on Dec 10, 2012 19:10:18 GMT -5
I'm really hoping/believing Zack Morris is mafia.
I really think we got this right, and all the evidence points to Morris. I think we did it, and town finally has won an actual mafia game without overly helpful flavor text.
If we're right: PIE FOR EVERYONE! EVEN GUS!
(not much else to say until the fallout thread)
But this post is mainly cautionary, in case we're wrong.
If we're wrong: Gus, I'm going to ask for a huge favor from you. And I know this is probably pointless and falling on deaf ears because you hate my guts right now, but at least think about what I say.
Please don't vote for me immediately when the next day phase starts. Give me time to talk/discuss. Because if you just immediately vote for me, the final mafia member will jump on, and you'll have sealed town's faith. Over the course of the next day phase, I'll try my hardest to convince you that I'm town, but all I'm asking is that you don't immediately vote, because if you do that, town will lose.
(Also, the reason I'm so confident I'll be here next day phase is two fold.
First off: Gus is most likely jailing me. Secondly: If you were mafia... would you really vote out the guy practically certain to get voted on?)
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Post by TOO SWEET on Dec 10, 2012 19:15:07 GMT -5
Wait, Gus. I FINALLY FOUND A DEFENSE FOR THE MASON THING! The rolesRead the cult leader section. Wouldn't Mason have died if he tried to convert me and I was mafia?
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Post by TOO SWEET on Dec 10, 2012 19:22:02 GMT -5
Again, all of this is useless if we lynched the final mafia member, but I'd much rather be safe than sorry.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Dec 10, 2012 19:44:41 GMT -5
Oohhh what a rush.
I wish you guys luck in the next day phase.
You took down the wrong man, but is been a game of doing that.
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Post by TOO SWEET on Dec 10, 2012 19:52:07 GMT -5
Damn.
I'm sorry Zack. I honestly was convinced you were the final guy. That B Natural stalling the lynch thing was the biggest evidence, and I was certain you were mafia.
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