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Post by Widow's Peak on Aug 13, 2012 14:32:47 GMT -5
To be fair to Punk, he's hardly the first guy make a joke in an interview at the expense of The Miz. He's pretty much the locker room whipping boy.
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Post by Cronant on Aug 13, 2012 14:34:03 GMT -5
No kidding. TNA has been fantastic since I started watching it again two months ago, but unless you're an under used mid-carder in WWE (and even then it depends on how well compensated you are for some and how much you like being a part of that company) you aren't yearning for TNA. No main eventer in WWE is jealous of anything in TNA. Let's be real now. And on the HHH/Punk thing, I don't get where people are going there. Hunter buries people and people call him an asshole. Punk "buries" (apparently to some) Miz, and people say he's being an asshole. It just burns some people that Punk owns that he can be a dick and it takes the sting out of someone trying to insult you that way. That and he doesn't care. I guess it depends on what you want. I'm just wondering if there's not a part of CM Punk that wishes he was out there mixing it up with his old buddies and being a part of what they're doing over there. I think he's pretty happy with what he's got going in WWE. Jericho, Bryan, Cena, soon to be Rock. The first 3 are guys he's liked working with, and he's about to have a big match with the Rock.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Aug 13, 2012 14:35:14 GMT -5
Can someone explain what is so wrong with what he said about Miz? He didn't bury him, say he sucked or anything like that, he said exactly what was reported when they took Orton out of them movie. He didn't say anything to make Miz look bad, just they took him off the house shows and TV to film the movie because he wouldn't be missed. Miz was doing nothing before that, no storylines, no titles, no feuds, nothing and was more expendable than the WWE Champ and number 2 overall babyface. The Role was offered to both CM Punk and Randy Orton, which means the above statement is false, since Punk was going to remain on TV, and this is a stab at The Miz. No it doesn't. Vince was the one who pulled Punk from the movie because he was too important, it actually proves his point, same as even Orton getting it. Neither Orton or Miz were important to tours or TV so they were expendable to Vince McMahon, Punk wasn't. Punk was too important to let disappear from the tours so Vince wouldn't let him do it, Miz wasn't so Vince let him do it.
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Post by kidglov3s on Aug 13, 2012 14:37:45 GMT -5
I guess it depends on what you want. I'm just wondering if there's not a part of CM Punk that wishes he was out there mixing it up with his old buddies and being a part of what they're doing over there. I think he's pretty happy with what he's got going in WWE. Jericho, Bryan, Cena, soon to be Rock. The first 3 are guys he's liked working with, and he's about to have a big match with the Rock. Obviously there's whatever incentive that's left him to be with WWE, I'm just saying that he might be feeling an element of opportunity cost with that, especially as TNA continues to improve and shape up. Or it could have just been a pithy comment.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Aug 13, 2012 14:40:39 GMT -5
I think he's pretty happy with what he's got going in WWE. Jericho, Bryan, Cena, soon to be Rock. The first 3 are guys he's liked working with, and he's about to have a big match with the Rock. Obviously there's whatever incentive that's left him to be with WWE, I'm just saying that he might be feeling an element of opportunity cost with that, especially as TNA continues to improve and shape up. Or it could have just been a pithy comment. He hates Dixie Carter and Jeff Jarrett for how they treated him when he was first there and then leeching off MITB angle by advertising him being in TNA when they were just showing matches he had back in 03-04 for them which he lost most of them if I remember right.
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Post by King Ghidorah on Aug 13, 2012 14:41:51 GMT -5
The Role was offered to both CM Punk and Randy Orton, which means the above statement is false, since Punk was going to remain on TV, and this is a stab at The Miz. No it doesn't. Vince was the one who pulled Punk from the movie because he was too important, it actually proves his point, same as even Orton getting it. Neither Orton or Miz were important to tours or TV so they were expendable to Vince McMahon, Punk wasn't. Punk was too important to let disappear from the tours so Vince wouldn't let him do it, Miz wasn't so Vince let him do it. Even if we ignore the truth of the statement, it should not have been said in a public interview, that line wasn't even a needed. Punk has gotten so smug he's forgotten when his whole stable jobbed to the Big Show, and now he just ****'s on everything/everyone he doesn't like.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Aug 13, 2012 14:50:53 GMT -5
No it doesn't. Vince was the one who pulled Punk from the movie because he was too important, it actually proves his point, same as even Orton getting it. Neither Orton or Miz were important to tours or TV so they were expendable to Vince McMahon, Punk wasn't. Punk was too important to let disappear from the tours so Vince wouldn't let him do it, Miz wasn't so Vince let him do it. Even if we ignore the truth of the statement, it should not have been said in a public interview, that line wasn't even a needed. Punk has gotten so smug he's forgotten when his whole stable jobbed to the Big Show, and now he just ****'s on everything/everyone he doesn't like. Again, nothing he said was damaging, burring, or bad. It's the exact reason WWE gave when it was down to Punk and Miz but Punk should ignore that? He was asked a question and answered honestly, isn't that what people want? Do you want him to go to a Q&A and not A the Qs or give corporate speak which people on here complain about (even with stuff from this one)? He's the exact same person he's been since RoH which has gained him millions of fans, dollars and fame, why should he change? Isn't that what people hate about Cena and countless other who get to the top? I get some people don't like his honesty/bluntness but a lot of others do and it's refreshing to see someone stick to what they are rather than change and ruin themselves.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2012 14:51:45 GMT -5
I think he's pretty happy with what he's got going in WWE. Jericho, Bryan, Cena, soon to be Rock. The first 3 are guys he's liked working with, and he's about to have a big match with the Rock. Obviously there's whatever incentive that's left him to be with WWE, I'm just saying that he might be feeling an element of opportunity cost with that, especially as TNA continues to improve and shape up. Or it could have just been a pithy comment. I think it is a bit of both. I don’t think Punk is yearning to go back to TNA, especially since he is going to work with The Rock soon (i.e. the most mainstream exposure he will ever get in his life). However, TNA’s product is exactly what Punk has been clamoring for. Outside of the current AJ Styles storyline, which at least has not prevented Styles from having great matches, the storylines in TNA are almost entirely about how important the world title is. I’m sure Punk wishes elements of TNA’s current booking was something he was involved in. But would be rather be in TNA? Highly unlikely, even if some of his buddies are there.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Aug 13, 2012 14:59:13 GMT -5
Even if we ignore the truth of the statement, it should not have been said in a public interview, that line wasn't even a needed. Punk has gotten so smug he's forgotten when his whole stable jobbed to the Big Show, and now he just ****'s on everything/everyone he doesn't like. Again, nothing he said was damaging, burring, or bad. It's the exact reason WWE gave when it was down to Punk and Miz but Punk should ignore that? He was asked a question and answered honestly, isn't that what people want? Do you want him to go to a Q&A and not A the Qs or give corporate speak which people on here complain about (even with stuff from this one)? He's the exact same person he's been since RoH which has gained him millions of fans, dollars and fame, why should he change? Isn't that what people hate about Cena and countless other who get to the top? I get some people don't like his honesty/bluntness but a lot of others do and it's refreshing to see someone stick to what they are rather than change and ruin themselves. You have a point about it not being a burial. I just read it in Punk's typical tone of voice, which is sarcastic and as people have said, he is an asshole and that's part of why he's popular. However, I wasn't saying I want Punk to be totally neutered, I just think that outwardly saying something disparaging about other members of the locker room is unprofessional and just flat out shouldn't happen unless it's in kayfabe.
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Post by r. on Aug 13, 2012 15:03:49 GMT -5
It's always this way. The guys you want around retire and the ones that no one wants to see anymore drag themselves into the ring for the next 25 years.
I honestly feel really bad for the wwe at this point. But hey you guys get 15 more years of ceener
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Post by King Ghidorah on Aug 13, 2012 15:13:03 GMT -5
Even if we ignore the truth of the statement, it should not have been said in a public interview, that line wasn't even a needed. Punk has gotten so smug he's forgotten when his whole stable jobbed to the Big Show, and now he just ****'s on everything/everyone he doesn't like. Again, nothing he said was damaging, burring, or bad. It's the exact reason WWE gave when it was down to Punk and Miz but Punk should ignore that? He was asked a question and answered honestly, isn't that what people want? Do you want him to go to a Q&A and not A the Qs or give corporate speak which people on here complain about (even with stuff from this one)? He's the exact same person he's been since RoH which has gained him millions of fans, dollars and fame, why should he change? Isn't that what people hate about Cena and countless other who get to the top? I get some people don't like his honesty/bluntness but a lot of others do and it's refreshing to see someone stick to what they are rather than change and ruin themselves. I don't hate Cena for understanding he's the face of a Multi-million dollar company and won't just say w/e pops in his head, but just like you said, it all comes down to personal preference.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2012 15:21:42 GMT -5
Every time Punk opens his mouth, my dislike for him grows, it's an amazing thing really. What he said about The Miz is ridiculousness, if HHH would have said it this board would have blown up, but it's just "Punk being Punk". Ugh Yup. I share your dislike.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2012 15:33:14 GMT -5
Not going to lie, I laughed heartily at the Punk-dickery concerning the Miz and Marine movie.
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Post by Yami Daimao on Aug 13, 2012 15:43:22 GMT -5
Punk simply stated what was true. He didn't get the role because he's a top crowd favorite and would have been missed (and perhaps for other reasons we're not aware of). Orton didn't get it because real Marines expressed their disapproval since he was honorably discharged (he deserted them, apparently), and like Punk, is a top crowd favorite who would have been missed. Miz, meanwhile, had his heat almost killed and was floundering doing God knows what before getting the role. Sure some people would have missed him, but no where in the same level as Punk or Orton. He didn't flat-out call him a loser or anything, just said he wouldn't have been missed. It may have been a bit blunt, but it's no burial, and no reason to overreact like some of you are doing.
As for TNA, it's pretty known that Punk personally dislikes TNA over his bad experience there. There was nothing more or nothing less to that comment.
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Post by mizerable on Aug 13, 2012 15:49:59 GMT -5
Miz being unimportant was the best thing that could've happened to him. Thanks to that, he's in a movie and is IC champion. Why are people upset that Punk pointed out the obvious? It worked out for Miz, didn't it?
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Aug 13, 2012 15:55:03 GMT -5
A guy nobody cares about is in a movie nobody cares about and held a title nobody cares about.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Aug 13, 2012 16:00:44 GMT -5
Not going to lie, I laughed heartily at the Punk-dickery concerning the Miz and Marine movie. Pretty much. I mean look at how important that title looked when he lost that all so important match against Kane. The build up alone eclipses that of any non wrestlemania fued.
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Post by wrestling4ever on Aug 13, 2012 16:02:31 GMT -5
Punk was asked if he would rather face The Rock or John Cena at WrestleMania, and Punk said he wants to face The Rock so he could try to have a better match with Rock than Cena did and then be able to tell Cena that Punk's match was better. Punk made it sound like Rock and Cena are the top two possible opponents for WrestleMania next year.
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Post by Texas Tornado on Aug 13, 2012 16:15:33 GMT -5
Don't any of you guys think for a second that Punk could be making jokes for the sake of entertaining the crowd? I mean sheesh, this forum takes the guy WAY too seriously.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Aug 13, 2012 16:20:36 GMT -5
Look I know people complain about WWE controlling what their guys say too much. But I would be livid if a guy who I had faith in to make my champion went out and said 'oh we got someone the fans give less of a s*** about to film the movie instead'. The Miz is a former WWE champion, he is an upper-midcarder, and he is the current IC champion. You do NOT go out there and bury one of our champions. Yada yada yada 'WWE does that themselves'. Precisely. THEY do that. If I want to book my champions terribly, then I do it myself. You do NOT disparage them in public interviews like that. As much as I hate Miz, its Punk being Punk. and to be fair Miz was doing precisely f*** all at the time. he was an obvious choice over a guy who was in the middle of the biggest push of his career. that may have been what he meant and he's just being misquoted here.
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