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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2012 5:00:39 GMT -5
Sure, logically, Lesnar should probably go over, but would it really be so bad if it was a close match? It's not everyone, but it seems like some here want them to basically make The Passion Of Triple H, have a twenty minute one sided beating where Trips gets in no offense. Hell, a couple people not only want that, but they want it to be a shoot. And even that wouldn't bother me as much if they didn't specifically want Brock Lesnar to do it. All evidence points to Brock Lesnar being not a very good person and regardless of how anyone feels about a wrestling storyline or a performer, they should not be rooting so viciously for a thug to legitimately harm someone. Hell, even during Extreme Rules, I wanted Lesnar to just pin Cena at a certain point because it was getting a little hard to watch, and I loathe Cena as much as others loathe Hunter if not more. The bloodthirstiness of the most rabid anti-Trips fans makes me uncomfortable. "Lesnar not being a very good person" I think you're buying into the kayfabe monster streak a little too much really. He wasn't attacking Cena without permission/Cena being aware of how the match was going to turn out at Extreme Rules. Brock Lesnar doesn't refuse to work with people, he's always been safe, and he's a smart businessman. He is nowhere near stupid enough to attack a man in an industry based entirely on choreography. I doubt the majority of people in this thread want a 20 minute massacre either, I'd really expect a decisive victory for Lesnar but you need to have the suspension of disbelief to allow Trips to get his hope/comeback spots in otherwise there's no point including him in the match. In my opinion Triple H should look like the lesser man in the bout, he shouldn't be completely destroyed but he should be decisively beaten. Brock Lesnar needs the victory more than Triple H needs to curtail one of the WWE's few megastars momentum more than it already has been.
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Post by eJm on Aug 15, 2012 5:51:46 GMT -5
Sure, logically, Lesnar should probably go over, but would it really be so bad if it was a close match? It's not everyone, but it seems like some here want them to basically make The Passion Of Triple H, have a twenty minute one sided beating where Trips gets in no offense. Hell, a couple people not only want that, but they want it to be a shoot. And even that wouldn't bother me as much if they didn't specifically want Brock Lesnar to do it. All evidence points to Brock Lesnar being not a very good person and regardless of how anyone feels about a wrestling storyline or a performer, they should not be rooting so viciously for a thug to legitimately harm someone. Hell, even during Extreme Rules, I wanted Lesnar to just pin Cena at a certain point because it was getting a little hard to watch, and I loathe Cena as much as others loathe Hunter if not more. The bloodthirstiness of the most rabid anti-Trips fans makes me uncomfortable. "Lesnar not being a very good person" I think you're buying into the kayfabe monster streak a little too much really. He wasn't attacking Cena without permission/Cena being aware of how the match was going to turn out at Extreme Rules. Brock Lesnar doesn't refuse to work with people, he's always been safe, and he's a smart businessman. He is nowhere near stupid enough to attack a man in an industry based entirely on choreography. I doubt the majority of people in this thread want a 20 minute massacre either, I'd really expect a decisive victory for Lesnar but you need to have the suspension of disbelief to allow Trips to get his hope/comeback spots in otherwise there's no point including him in the match. In my opinion Triple H should look like the lesser man in the bout, he shouldn't be completely destroyed but he should be decisively beaten. Brock Lesnar needs the victory more than Triple H needs to curtail one of the WWE's few megastars momentum more than it already has been. Pretty much. Personally, make it like Cena/Lesnar, include a couple of HHH comebacks and set ups to make it more even handed and then Brock definitively wins. As mentioned before, he needs the decisive win more than it needs to be a screw job win or some BS like that.
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Post by g1megatronfan on Aug 15, 2012 6:10:14 GMT -5
They didn't bring back Lesnar to win matches. If that were the case he would have beaten Cena in his first PPV match in years. They brought him back to "prove" that WWE is better than UFC. What better way to do that than have Lesnar lose during this run?
HHH wins. Since when does he ever lose big feuds? I can't think of the last time that's happened (if ever).
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Post by Arrow on Aug 15, 2012 6:16:21 GMT -5
HHH wins. Since when does he ever lose big feuds? I can't think of the last time that's happened (if ever). He just lost to Undertaker this year, in what was the second biggest feud leading into WrestleMania.
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Post by eJm on Aug 15, 2012 6:22:12 GMT -5
HHH wins. Since when does he ever lose big feuds? I can't think of the last time that's happened (if ever). He just lost to Undertaker this year, in what was the second biggest feud leading into WrestleMania. Hell, unless you want to count Taker not walking out on his own as a loss, HHH lost to him TWICE!
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Post by BigWill on Aug 15, 2012 6:26:44 GMT -5
They didn't bring back Lesnar to win matches. If that were the case he would have beaten Cena in his first PPV match in years. They brought him back to "prove" that WWE is better than UFC. What better way to do that than have Lesnar lose during this run? That makes absolutely no sense.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Aug 15, 2012 7:17:53 GMT -5
They didn't bring back Lesnar to win matches. If that were the case he would have beaten Cena in his first PPV match in years. They brought him back to "prove" that WWE is better than UFC. What better way to do that than have Lesnar lose during this run? That makes absolutely no sense. It doesn't, but then again, this company is ridiculously petty and insecure about the silliest things. We'll find out this Sunday one way or the other, however. Are they in this thing to make the most money through long-term planning? Or is WWE that stupid to waste 5 million dollars so certain guys who've reached their ceiling like HHH can fake pin a former UFC Champion who doesn't give a shit one way or the other? He gets paid either way. They're the one's who'll lose on treating him like a million dollar tackling dummy. Good luck explaining that to stock holders. You pay 5 million dollars to purposely run your investment into the ground to practically zero return, short-term or long (especially). You should be building momentum, not losing it. That said, if HHH loses decisively this Sunday, all the HHH detractors will have to eat crow, and admit that this time he did the right thing by business, and/or WWE is in the market to make the most money possible, not just jerk themselves off. If HHH wins, it proves the detractors right undisputedly about WWE's mindset and ego-driven incompetence, and there will be no defense from a logic-minded business perspective. Although I'm sure a few will still stubbornly try.
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Post by mrjl on Aug 15, 2012 17:37:32 GMT -5
Brock was brought in to have entertaining matches that people would pay for, nothing else.
And Foley wanted to retire in real life.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Aug 15, 2012 17:47:00 GMT -5
Brock was brought in to have entertaining matches that people would pay for, nothing else. And Foley wanted to retire in real life. Brock was brought back to make the company the most money, and the booking should build towards that. And HHH is a part-timer who does not benefit from a win at this juncture. We could do this dance all night.
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Post by JTH on Aug 15, 2012 18:02:34 GMT -5
They didn't bring back Lesnar to win matches. If that were the case he would have beaten Cena in his first PPV match in years. They brought him back to "prove" that WWE is better than UFC. What better way to do that than have Lesnar lose during this run? That makes absolutely no sense. Which is why it could be very plausible sadly.
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