Bub (BLM)
Patti Mayonnaise
advocates duck on rodent violence
Fed. Up.
Posts: 37,742
|
Post by Bub (BLM) on Jun 5, 2012 7:13:25 GMT -5
Richard Vernon in the Breakfast club. I disagree. The only person in the right in that entire film was the janitor. All the kids were self-involved, but Vernon went WAY over the line with some of the things he said to them, especially the stuff he said to Bender. I understand that the kid was a punk, but when you're a professional, you can't say that shit.
|
|
Juice
El Dandy
Wrong? Oh he can tell ya about being wrong.
I'm the one who raised you from perdition.
Posts: 8,172
|
Post by Juice on Jun 5, 2012 7:26:42 GMT -5
Speaking of Affleck projects, I guess you can consider Jon Hamm's character the villain(or I guess more appropriately, antagonist) in The Town, yet he was totally in the right throughout that film. But that's what happens in films where the protagonist is a criminal. Totally rooted for his character throughout the entirety of it. Right, and it's one of my favorite movies, and I feel that afflecks versions of the films are better than the book Prince of Thieves, but what the book did really well was make him look like a complete asshole abusing his power. Essentially he wants nothing to do with the bank robbery unit and is waiting for a transfer until Claire comes along and he has a thing for her and the fact she is seeing Doug is what pisses him off. He wants to take Doug out cause he got claire and not because he is a criminal.
|
|
|
Post by Hit Girl on Jun 5, 2012 11:23:21 GMT -5
Didn't the Wicked Witch just want her sister's shoes? Seems like a reasonable thing to want. What right did Glinda have to say no? And if the Wicked Witch took out her wrath on Glinda nobody would be complaining. Instead she harrassed a lost, innocent child and her mentally challenged friends. Well that girl did have her sister's shoes.
|
|
|
Post by hypnoticgenes on Jun 5, 2012 11:26:39 GMT -5
Sky High.
The only reason Royal Pain turned evil is because she was labeled a sidekick despite having hero level powers.
|
|
|
Post by Hit Girl on Jun 5, 2012 11:44:05 GMT -5
Catwoman in "Batman Returns", presuming that she is regarded as a villain.
She wanted to kill Max Shreck, and he was pretty unpleasant, so I don't really blame her.
|
|
Ben Wyatt
Crow T. Robot
Are You Gonna Go My Way?
I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
Posts: 41,526
|
Post by Ben Wyatt on Jun 5, 2012 11:48:29 GMT -5
As frustrated as you are, you never go around pulling guns on people. honest truth, and this is gonna sound odd, but I thought that the moment he crossed the moral event horizon is when he starts laughing at the dying old man. to that point you could see where he was coming from, even if you didn't agree with him. but honestly what purpose was there in letting an old man die of a heart attack other than being a petty asshole? I actually think the "point of no return" conversation with his ex wife was where he crossed over the line.
|
|
Goldenbane
Hank Scorpio
THE G.D. Goldenbane
Posts: 7,331
|
Post by Goldenbane on Jun 5, 2012 12:54:37 GMT -5
Sky High. The only reason Royal Pain turned evil is because she was labeled a sidekick despite having hero level powers. I always thought their super power testing was weak and abrupt anyway. "I have the power to glow! How silly and useless, right?" "Uh...let's test a little further...HOLY CRAP YOU'RE RADIOACTIVE!!!!" I'm just saying...dig a little deeper than not at all.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2012 12:59:23 GMT -5
The Final Destination Series
|
|
|
Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 5, 2012 13:00:33 GMT -5
If he can be considered the "bad guy", Terry Benedict in Ocean's Eleven. His only crime was that he cared more about his money than Tess, but that still didn't warrant having $150 million of his money stolen.
A case could be made for Teddy KGB and Grama in Rounders. Nasty characters, no doubt, but Mike and Worm knew what they were getting into.
|
|
|
Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Jun 5, 2012 13:04:08 GMT -5
Catwoman in "Batman Returns", presuming that she is regarded as a villain. She wanted to kill Max Shreck, and he was pretty unpleasant, so I don't really blame her. I never considered her as an antagonist in that film. To me Penguin and Shreck were the villains with Batman as the protagonist and Catwoman as anti-hero.
|
|
|
Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Jun 5, 2012 13:19:44 GMT -5
honest truth, and this is gonna sound odd, but I thought that the moment he crossed the moral event horizon is when he starts laughing at the dying old man. to that point you could see where he was coming from, even if you didn't agree with him. but honestly what purpose was there in letting an old man die of a heart attack other than being a petty asshole? I actually think the "point of no return" conversation with his ex wife was where he crossed over the line. Which is pretty much what I was referring to in my earlier post.
|
|
|
Post by Cela on Jun 5, 2012 14:08:53 GMT -5
According to Milla Jovavich at Wondercon, her character in The Three Musketeers.
I paraphrase: "She was just a modern woman trying to make her way in a man's world."
Milla Jovavich is an idiot.
|
|
Ben Wyatt
Crow T. Robot
Are You Gonna Go My Way?
I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
Posts: 41,526
|
Post by Ben Wyatt on Jun 5, 2012 14:30:45 GMT -5
I actually think the "point of no return" conversation with his ex wife was where he crossed over the line. Which is pretty much what I was referring to in my earlier post. Gotcha. Though, it can be argued he sorta redeems himself at the very end
|
|
Johnny B. Decent
Patti Mayonnaise
Had one once
Everybody's Favorite Arizonian.
Posts: 31,080
|
Post by Johnny B. Decent on Jun 5, 2012 14:43:30 GMT -5
According to Milla Jovavich at Wondercon, her character in The Three Musketeers. I paraphrase: "She was just a modern woman trying to make her way in a man's world." Milla Jovavich is an idiot. No, she was a manipulative, two-timing bitch all the way there.
|
|
MolotovMocktail
Grimlock
Home of the 5-time, 5-time, 5-time, 5-time 5-time Super Bowl Champion 49ers-and Wrestlemania 31
Posts: 13,983
|
Post by MolotovMocktail on Jun 5, 2012 15:28:05 GMT -5
Jason's mother in the original Friday the 13th. She rightfully blamed the camp for her son's death when the lifeguards went off to have sex and left Jason to drown.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2012 15:29:58 GMT -5
Four words: Ferris Bueller's Day Off. I've ranted on this before, but it is so true. Ferris is the villain.
|
|
The Line
Patti Mayonnaise
Real Name: Bumkiss. Stanley Bumkiss.
Peanut Butter & JAAAAAMMMM!
Posts: 36,698
|
Post by The Line on Jun 5, 2012 17:17:34 GMT -5
Speaking of Affleck projects, I guess you can consider Jon Hamm's character the villain(or I guess more appropriately, antagonist) in The Town, yet he was totally in the right throughout that film. But that's what happens in films where the protagonist is a criminal. Totally rooted for his character throughout the entirety of it. Right, and it's one of my favorite movies, and I feel that afflecks versions of the films are better than the book Prince of Thieves, but what the book did really well was make him look like a complete asshole abusing his power. Essentially he wants nothing to do with the bank robbery unit and is waiting for a transfer until Claire comes along and he has a thing for her and the fact she is seeing Doug is what pisses him off. He wants to take Doug out cause he got claire and not because he is a criminal. That's really interesting(and makes me want to read the book). Yeah, you got a slight sense of that in some of the Hamm's conversation's with the Clair character, but she was definitely portrayed as a pawn and almost a "consolation prize" or bonus, with catching Doug and the gang being the big catch. Interesting to see that in the book, it's almost reversed.
|
|
|
Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Jun 5, 2012 18:08:09 GMT -5
Jason's mother in the original Friday the 13th. She rightfully blamed the camp for her son's death when the lifeguards went off to have sex and left Jason to drown. In the prologue maybe, But then she killed a whole bunch of people who had nothing to do with her son's death.
|
|
|
Post by Hit Girl on Jun 5, 2012 18:28:25 GMT -5
Clubber Lang
He was the number one contender. He was clearly being denied his rightful shot at the title. He was understandably angry.
|
|
|
Post by daime on Jun 5, 2012 21:13:55 GMT -5
Live Free or Die Hard - I can't remember all the names right now, but the guy showed the government how vulnerable the systems were, they ignored him. He went on to show them by example and still got owned by McClane. It was only a matter of time before someone else figured out the flaws in the system.
|
|