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Post by BigWill on Oct 4, 2012 22:08:25 GMT -5
How the hell is Khali making that much money? I can't even remember the last time he's been on TV, and when he is, he's pretty much used as a giant jobber. He's huge with Indian audiences. What does that matter if he isn't used? Plus, how much money does the WWE even make off the Indian market? It can't be much, seeing as how pro wrestling isn't all that big over there.
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Post by saintpat on Oct 4, 2012 22:27:29 GMT -5
He's huge with Indian audiences. What does that matter if he isn't used? Plus, how much money does the WWE even make off the Indian market? It can't be much, seeing as how pro wrestling isn't all that big over there. I believe it matters because without him WWE would have no TV deal in India, and that they were able to secure such a deal when he was more active specifically because of him. Probably more than pays his freight.
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Post by Red Impact on Oct 4, 2012 22:32:31 GMT -5
He's huge with Indian audiences. What does that matter if he isn't used? Plus, how much money does the WWE even make off the Indian market? It can't be much, seeing as how pro wrestling isn't all that big over there. Remember, India has over a billion people. Even if a small percentage of them are fans, it's going to translate to a good number. That's a serious market you'd want to tap in to.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Oct 4, 2012 22:37:19 GMT -5
What does that matter if he isn't used? Plus, how much money does the WWE even make off the Indian market? It can't be much, seeing as how pro wrestling isn't all that big over there. Remember, India has over a billion people. Even if a small percentage of them are fans, it's going to translate to a good number. That's a serious market you'd want to tap in to. Plus he's a huge celebrity over there so even having him under contract is a plus.
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Post by thetimetraveler on Oct 4, 2012 23:40:16 GMT -5
I love how people will just take anything as fact on a wrestling message board. Are all the stereotypes about us true? I'm starting to wonder...
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Post by ThereIsNoAbsurdistOnlyZuul on Oct 5, 2012 0:48:58 GMT -5
I call BS on a lot of these. A guy like Tensai has never been a draw and when he returned would have very little negotiating power. WWE wouldn't just give him $500 000 for the hell of it. He had quite a bit of negotiating power, if WWE couldn't offer substantially more than what he was making over there with a lighter schedule, no sense in putting your body through the additional wear and tear.
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Post by jimmyjames on Oct 5, 2012 1:13:49 GMT -5
I'm not being critical, but I keep hearing how much Khali makes WWE from the India market, but does anyone have any proof of how much WWE makes from India. Has anyone ever posted an annual report or any type of financial report breaking down how much they make internationally or solely from India?
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Oct 5, 2012 3:44:10 GMT -5
Two things really stick out.
Lawler gets less than Cole, even with Cole doing two shows, this surprises me greatly.
And Christian's number seems really low.
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Post by worldsstrongestman on Oct 5, 2012 4:25:19 GMT -5
Two things really stick out. Lawler gets less than Cole, even with Cole doing two shows, this surprises me greatly. Cole's journalism background is probably why he gets paid more. I'm suprised Darren Young doesn't get paid... {Spoiler}
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Post by celticjobber on Oct 5, 2012 4:33:21 GMT -5
What does that matter if he isn't used? Plus, how much money does the WWE even make off the Indian market? It can't be much, seeing as how pro wrestling isn't all that big over there. I believe it matters because without him WWE would have no TV deal in India, and that they were able to secure such a deal when he was more active specifically because of him. Probably more than pays his freight. Yeah, and supposedly they somehow edit the shows in a way that makes it seem like Khali is still the champion.
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Post by VengeanceGOD on Oct 5, 2012 6:13:50 GMT -5
Dumb question here, but what's a downside?
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Oct 5, 2012 6:21:19 GMT -5
Dumb question here, but what's a downside? It's the guaranteed part of the contract. For the rest of their contracts they've got the pay from appearances, and merch sales. So if they get injured, they still get the downside. The merch sales do still figure into pay. It's like in the NFL, why guys want a signing bonus so much. That's the only guaranteed part.
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Post by Ryushinku on Oct 5, 2012 9:42:32 GMT -5
So a guy like Cena, for instance, would be making even more since his merch sales are so good.
It's also why Ryder promotes his stuff so hard. If this is true and he did manage to get an extra merch % deal in his contract, that's pretty smart stuff by his legal rep.
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BigWill
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Post by BigWill on Oct 5, 2012 9:48:03 GMT -5
I believe it matters because without him WWE would have no TV deal in India, and that they were able to secure such a deal when he was more active specifically because of him. Probably more than pays his freight. Yeah, and supposedly they somehow edit the shows in a way that makes it seem like Khali is still the champion. I'm pretty sure that's not actually true. And even though India has a billion people there, I doubt more than maybe a few thousand are fans of the WWE. And I doubt those few thousand fans are making the WWE over a million dollars in profits. They're likely taking a pretty big loss each year if Khali's actually making that much money. Though, I'm not sure why we're all discussing this so seriously. There still hasn't been a single credible source to verify this, so it's all likely just BS anyway.
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Post by Dub H on Oct 5, 2012 10:06:17 GMT -5
Kinda sad how the divas makes SO MUCH less money than midcarders.Even if the list is fake,they probaly make much less than then
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2012 10:21:29 GMT -5
Dumb question here, but what's a downside? It's the salary you get just for being under contract. If your downside is $100,000, then you will make no less than $100,000, and the only way you won't make more than that is if you aren't being used at all and have no merchandise. On top of your downside, you make payoffs for TV tapings, house shows, merchandise sales, plus PPV bonuses and payments from THQ and Mattel for using your image in video games and on action figures. PPV bonuses are really important because you can make a lot of money for that one show. Kanyon mentioned in a shoot interview that he was paid $13,000 for his match at SummerSlam 2001 (Kanyon/DDP vs. Undertaker/Kane).
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Post by andrew8798 on Oct 5, 2012 19:33:41 GMT -5
Meltzer
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2012 9:35:48 GMT -5
Keep in mind a downside is just that, a downside.
So you may see people on this list that seem like they're underpaid but might not be. Vince seems keen on greatly incentivizing his wrestlers with an "If I make money, you make money" mentality and there are a great deal of different bonuses wrestlers receive taking them well above their downside. We know the more obvious ones like PPV paydays and merch royalties but there's a lot more than that.
Thus if someone like Darren Young, who has a low downside, is being used regularly lately but still on the same low paying downside contract it may not even affect him (or not affect him much, depending on what numbers he signed for regarding bonuses which seem to vary greatly on the wrestler).
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Post by Cvslfc123 on Oct 7, 2012 13:52:57 GMT -5
I don't think I could take a job which involved so much travelling and yet the employer doesn't pay the expenses!
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Post by saintpat on Oct 7, 2012 14:24:43 GMT -5
Meltzer If Meltzer knows numbers he should report them. Sitting on the sideline saying "that's not correct" doesn't impress me if he claims to know the real amounts but hasn't reported them.
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