Cronant
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
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Post by Cronant on Nov 26, 2012 23:21:40 GMT -5
I can honestly say I loved his stuff at the beginning of the show. This guy is supposed to be CHAOS, and Vickie shouldn't really be holding any power on him.
I thought last week he should have been wrecking stuff but the security and constantly telling Vickie to shut up was great. He's supposed to be a scary man, even moreso when he's angry.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2012 23:23:18 GMT -5
"Mr. Ryback, we'll give you everything you want, just let us give the nice people a show and-"
"SHUT UP!"
Classic WWE 'writing' - Heels use logic and reason; faces are jerks and tell everyone to shut up.
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Cronant
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
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Post by Cronant on Nov 26, 2012 23:24:30 GMT -5
Ryback shouldn't use logic. He got screwed, he wants Punk.
Trying to put him under the 'face' umbrella is whats wrong.
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Post by YiHammer on Nov 26, 2012 23:28:44 GMT -5
I wanted food puns
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Post by joebob27 on Nov 26, 2012 23:29:53 GMT -5
SHUT UP!
He's better than I expected him to be. The crowd was most into him when he was a loudmouthed asshole so they probably should go into that direction.
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mizerable
Fry's dog Seymour
You're the lowest on the totem pole here, Alva. The lowest.
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Post by mizerable on Nov 26, 2012 23:31:09 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm so tired of this "way to be a face" mentality. What's he supposed to be? Roy f***ing Rogers? I don't want some polite smiling goofy bastard. No one wants that. I can't think back at any time where we had these clear cut happy go lucky faces throughout the company, so the "be a star" stuff doesn't have any credit.
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mrjl
Fry's dog Seymour
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Post by mrjl on Nov 26, 2012 23:31:53 GMT -5
"Mr. Ryback, we'll give you everything you want, just let us give the nice people a show and-" "SHUT UP!" Classic WWE 'writing' - Heels use logic and reason; faces are jerks and tell everyone to shut up. it's what the fans want. But technically he called Punk out so he didn't get what he wanted initially and once she agreed to the title match did she need to keep talking? |
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Post by Mayonnaise on Nov 26, 2012 23:50:45 GMT -5
"Mr. Ryback, we'll give you everything you want, just let us give the nice people a show and-" "SHUT UP!" Classic WWE 'writing' - Heels use logic and reason; faces are jerks and tell everyone to shut up. it's what the fans want. But technically he called Punk out so he didn't get what he wanted initially and once she agreed to the title match did she need to keep talking? Yeah. Ryback got what he wanted (Punk at TLC) but didn't leave so Vickie being in charge and having agreed to Ryback's demands was trying to get him to leave to give the fans a show. |
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Red
Don Corleone
Best in the World at everything I do.
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Post by Red on Nov 26, 2012 23:52:07 GMT -5
SHUT UP!
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Chainsaw
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A very BAD man.
It is what it is
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Post by Chainsaw on Nov 26, 2012 23:54:14 GMT -5
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH SHADDAAAAAAAAP!!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2012 1:06:02 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm so tired of this "way to be a face" mentality. What's he supposed to be? Roy f***ing Rogers? I don't want some polite smiling goofy bastard. No one wants that. I can't think back at any time where we had these clear cut happy go lucky faces throughout the company, so the "be a star" stuff doesn't have any credit. SHUT. UP. {Spoiler}My redeeming qualities as a heroic figure are readily apparent now. WWE title please. |
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Post by kamero00 on Nov 27, 2012 1:08:08 GMT -5
I liked it. He seemed legit angry.
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Allie Kitsune
Crow T. Robot
Always Feelin' Foxy.
Celestial Princess in Exile.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Nov 27, 2012 1:12:41 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm so tired of this "way to be a face" mentality. What's he supposed to be? Roy f***ing Rogers? I don't want some polite smiling goofy bastard. No one wants that. I can't think back at any time where we had these clear cut happy go lucky faces throughout the company, so the "be a star" stuff doesn't have any credit. Step aside, and let the heel go through, let the heel go through. Step aside, and let the heel go through, let the heel go through. [...] SUPER INDIE CRED, SUPER INDIE CRED, SUPER INDIE CRED, SUPER INDIE CRED. And this is why I shouldn't be allowed to attempt to reference Soul Coughing. |
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Post by Savage Gambino on Nov 27, 2012 1:44:21 GMT -5
Face takes the high road? He's a whitemeat, Stepford smiling, beta who needs to grow balls. Face seems legit angry? He's an asshole who isn't "Be(ing) a STAR".
Moral of the story? Boo the faces.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Nov 27, 2012 1:52:24 GMT -5
Oh... Fer chrissake, the complaint isn't that he's angry. The complaint is that he's being a jerk, and that he got his way by throwing a tantrum in the ring.
And yes: call it old-fashioned, but the good guys should be good. I don't think anyone is annoyed at Cena or Sheamus or whatever else face gets criticized because they're too GOOD. People are annoyed because they're SMUG PRICKS.
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Greer
Unicron
Points. Don't. Matter.
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Post by Greer on Nov 27, 2012 2:02:18 GMT -5
Oh... Fer chrissake, the complaint isn't that he's angry. The complaint is that he's being a jerk, and that he got his way by throwing a tantrum in the ring. And yes: call it old-fashioned, but the good guys should be good. I don't think anyone is annoyed at Cena or Sheamus or whatever else face gets criticized because they're too GOOD. People are annoyed because they're SMUG PRICKS. Because Stone Cold Steve Austin was such a good person who didn't act like an asshole at all. He was a respectful face who used logic and calm behavior, never resorting to violence. Ah yes and let's not forget The Rock, who was such a good natured, polite babyface. Not every face needs to be a goody goody that abides by the rules and let's heels walk all over them. Just about every face has broken rules or been a prick at one point. |
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Cam
Tommy Wiseau
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Post by Cam on Nov 27, 2012 2:10:08 GMT -5
I thought it was poor tbh.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2012 2:11:33 GMT -5
Face takes the high road? He's a whitemeat, Stepford smiling, beta who needs to grow balls. Face seems legit angry? He's an asshole who isn't "Be(ing) a STAR". Moral of the story? Boo the faces. I'm pretty sure the complaints that faces aren't being nice enough are a subtle trolling that some posters jumped on the bandwagon of, believing it was legit. |
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Nov 27, 2012 2:16:07 GMT -5
Because Stone Cold Steve Austin was such a good person who didn't act like an asshole at all. He was a respectful face who used logic and calm behavior, never resorting to violence. Ah yes and let's not forget The Rock, who was such a good natured, polite babyface. Not every face needs to be a goody goody that abides by the rules and let's heels walk all over them. Just about every face has broken rules or been a prick at one point. Part of the reason it's annoying when faces do that is because it's so transparent they're desperately trying to recreate Austin. Austin was the exception, and not the rule. They had to organize the entire business around him; he needed to be at the mercy of a company-wide conspiracy to maintain face sympathy. That is hard to do. What I really don't understand is this weird conflation of being a good guy and being a doormat. Those have no connection, in drama or in real life, and yet people talk about them like they're the same. You can abide by the rules (and even be a logical person!) without also letting anybody get away with anything at your expense. Ryback was a bully, and more importantly, he was being a BRAT. He was acting like his anger is more important than the whole show. There's not a face-like thing about him. |
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Post by lildude8218 on Nov 27, 2012 2:39:58 GMT -5
when is Phoebe Moore going to show up though? he's been talking about her for weeks and even has the fans wanting eagerly awaiting her debut
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