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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2012 18:06:56 GMT -5
Is there someone who has the 7th worse rated closing segments in Raw history?
Someone told me there's a guy who has - but I haven't heard recently who it was.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2012 18:08:23 GMT -5
I'm confused, does someone have the 7 worst rated closing segments in history? JYNX! You owe me a coke!
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Post by memphis25 on Nov 28, 2012 18:08:24 GMT -5
Actually Ryback's been in nearly every segment with Punk at the end of the show, which are abysmal ratings according to you. So Ryback = bad ratings? Ryback is out there for less 20% of the segment, I wish we had the min by in breakdown so we could see how much Ryback helps the numbers like he did 3 weeks again when the Punk and Cena match was down at the start but ended just under a 3 with Cena and Ryback holding the belt to end the show. You guys are dodging the fact Punk is ratings death to end the shows!
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Post by joebob27 on Nov 28, 2012 18:08:54 GMT -5
Funny that 7 was brought up, because the MITB Cash-in match on 1000 w/ Big Show + Rock run-in (which was NOT telegraphed)..... did over 7 million viewers.
Does this place have "ignore poster"? It's starting to get annoying. He's going to keep ducking around answering the logic gap and just keep posting the same thing over and over again.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Nov 28, 2012 18:09:33 GMT -5
Punk wasn't doing well in the main event slot when Raw was 2 hours so trying to act like 3 hours is the only reason is absolutely ridiculous.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2012 18:09:40 GMT -5
Actually Ryback's been in nearly every segment with Punk at the end of the show, which are abysmal ratings according to you. So Ryback = bad ratings? Ryback is out there for less 20% of the segment, I wish we had the min by in breakdown so we could see how much Ryback helps the numbers like he did 3 weeks again when the Punk and Cena match was down at the start but ended just under a 3 with Cena and Ryback holding the belt to end the show. You guys are dodging the fact Punk is ratings death to end the shows! Sounds like you're dodging the fact that Ryback isn't the ratings savior you've made him out to be. If Punk's out there at the end of the show, Ryback's almost sure to follow. People know this, yet the end of the show still falls off. By your own logic - Ryback is ratings poison as well!
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Post by kidglov3s on Nov 28, 2012 18:10:51 GMT -5
Actually Ryback's been in nearly every segment with Punk at the end of the show, which are abysmal ratings according to you. So Ryback = bad ratings? Ryback is out there for less 20% of the segment, I wish we had the min by in breakdown so we could see how much Ryback helps the numbers like he did 3 weeks again when the Punk and Cena match was down at the start but ended just under a 3 with Cena and Ryback holding the belt to end the show. You guys are dodging the fact Punk is ratings death to end the shows! I think the long boring Sheamus match and 3 hours hurt the shows more than anything else. I used to look forward to Raw, these days I kind of dread it. I think it's none of the individual people but how they're being used. Krimzon is right.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Nov 28, 2012 18:11:53 GMT -5
This argument is f***ing ridiculous. Ryback is over. Punk is over. The 3rd hour sucks. End of story. This is the simple answer. Although, I should note, when Randy Orton turned out numbers that were actually higher than these as WWE Champion, he was called ratings poison. Just saying.
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Post by memphis25 on Nov 28, 2012 18:15:07 GMT -5
No, I'm saying that buy your logic when Rock shows up, Punk is suddenly the reason why people are watching, because apparently whoever he's programmed with is irrelevant. Ryder can be in with the Rock and have a segment pop, some guys are larger than life. Punk is just a guy he had his big moment with the pipe bomb and the winning in Chicago nothing else he does is ever going to matter.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2012 18:15:07 GMT -5
POISON! POISON!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2012 18:16:09 GMT -5
Well either way - hopefully they keep that guy Ryback out of the main event scene so the ratings will go back up. Give Punk someone interesting to challenge against.
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Post by memphis25 on Nov 28, 2012 18:18:09 GMT -5
I'm confused, does someone have the 7 worst rated closing segments in history? Clearly it must not been said enough since people want to gloss over it refusing to admit their hero needs help to draw ratings.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Nov 28, 2012 18:19:12 GMT -5
Ryback is out there for less 20% of the segment, I wish we had the min by in breakdown so we could see how much Ryback helps the numbers like he did 3 weeks again when the Punk and Cena match was down at the start but ended just under a 3 with Cena and Ryback holding the belt to end the show. You guys are dodging the fact Punk is ratings death to end the shows! I think the long boring Sheamus match and 3 hours hurt the shows more than anything else. I used to look forward to Raw, these days I kind of dread it. I think it's none of the individual people but how they're being used. Krimzon is right. Time out, long boring Sheamus match?! That was the best match of the night. I think some people just can't handle that some people just don't draw big ratings.
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Post by 01010010 01101001 01100011 on Nov 28, 2012 18:20:15 GMT -5
Well either way - hopefully they keep that guy Ryback out of the main event scene so the ratings will go back up. Give Punk someone interesting to challenge against. Heard something about a celebrity, a Dewey something or other, possibly coming in around Rumble since it sells itself. No telling about him since Vince is so behind the times. Hope they don't do something stupid.
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Post by memphis25 on Nov 28, 2012 18:21:18 GMT -5
Sounds like you're dodging the fact that Ryback isn't the ratings savior you've made him out to be. If Punk's out there at the end of the show, Ryback's almost sure to follow. People know this, yet the end of the show still falls off. By your own logic - Ryback is ratings poison as well! He was the highest rated segment last week for a promo and a match with Albert, the week before he got a 3.28 in hour 3 with Brad Maddox and then spiked the final segment with him and Cena facing off over the belt and this week he is looking like another highly rated segment with Titus of all people and he spiked the HIAC buyrate as a last moment replacement.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2012 18:21:30 GMT -5
I think the long boring Sheamus match and 3 hours hurt the shows more than anything else. I used to look forward to Raw, these days I kind of dread it. I think it's none of the individual people but how they're being used. Krimzon is right. Time out, long boring Sheamus match?! That was the best match of the night. I think some people just can't handle that some people just don't draw big ratings. Sheamus v Cesaro was a great match. Though I'd give MotN to Bryan/Mysterio. Lotta good matches that night actually. I know what you mean about people not being able to handle the truth about their 'hero's' though. Whether its Ryback, Cena or Punk - 'big ratings' just ain't happening homie.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2012 18:23:34 GMT -5
Well either way - hopefully they keep that guy Ryback out of the main event scene so the ratings will go back up. Give Punk someone interesting to challenge against. Heard something about a celebrity, a Dewey something or other, possibly coming in around Rumble since it sells itself. No telling about him since Vince is so behind the times. Hope they don't do something stupid. You don't mean....1962 Nobel Prize winner James Dewey Watson!?!?!? Oh DAMN! Vince still knows how to pop a buyrate!
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Post by Savage Gambino on Nov 28, 2012 18:23:43 GMT -5
I'm confused, does someone have the 7 worst rated closing segments in history? Clearly it must not been said enough since people want to gloss over it refusing to admit their hero needs help to draw ratings. From last weeks RAW ratings report: Ryback attempting to Shell Shock Tensai again = Ratings? Apparently the overrun managed to crack the bottom 5 of worst rated overruns in the 1000+ episode history of Raw. Before this week the bottom 5 was: Not top seven, but including last week, Punk is the common denominator of the top six worst overruns since the program began in 1993. Surely this is all Ryback's fault, though.
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Post by 01010010 01101001 01100011 on Nov 28, 2012 18:23:54 GMT -5
Well either way - hopefully they keep that guy Ryback out of the main event scene so the ratings will go back up. Give Punk someone interesting to challenge against. Heard something about a celebrity, a Dewey something or other, possibly coming in around Rumble since it sells itself. No telling about him since Vince is so behind the times. Hope they don't do something stupid. I found a pic in spoilers just incase: {Spoiler}
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Post by memphis25 on Nov 28, 2012 18:27:45 GMT -5
Funny that 7 was brought up, because the MITB Cash-in match on 1000 w/ Big Show + Rock run-in (which was NOT telegraphed)..... did over 7 million viewers. You mean a RAW that averaged 6 million people and was hyped up for months and months that featured a match that has seen every single winner cash in for a title win lead to ratings WOW! You could been WWE champion that night and in that segment and it was drawing!
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