mizerable
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Post by mizerable on Dec 9, 2012 21:45:01 GMT -5
Miz already got bumped down to IC Title level after having already been WWE Champion. How much further down can he be (realistically) depushed? Oh poor guy. He got to close out the show last week. Was in the main event of MITB, was on the poster of Survivor Series, has a movie coming out, etc etc. I can't believe that if he isn't in the WWE title picture, he's automatically being "underutilized" or "depushed".
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Post by HBL on Dec 10, 2012 5:24:14 GMT -5
The verbal beating Punk gave to Miz was so bad, that maybe Punk should have let up and shouldn't have buried Miz so badly IMO,it really wasn't. I enjoy almost every single promo Punk gives,but that one seemed like he was trying too hard.
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Post by KobashiChop on Dec 10, 2012 7:09:10 GMT -5
The verbal beating Punk gave to Miz was so bad, that maybe Punk should have let up and shouldn't have buried Miz so badly IMO,it really wasn't. I enjoy almost every single promo Punk gives,but that one seemed like he was trying too hard. Which means the segment succeeded. The whole point of it was that Punk was trying to get into a shoot off and pull another "pipebomb" on The Miz. Unfortunately for him, Miz played it cool the whole time and as a result, the heel got burnt by the face because the face wouldnt let him get off his shots. It was a great face/heel segment.
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Post by KobashiChop on Dec 10, 2012 7:13:39 GMT -5
Punk's remarks were not scathing. In fact, they were pretty corny too. Best talker in the business...or so we're told...and he's making jokes about wrestling school? To a guy who has heard it all before? Not exactly original. I was expecting him to come up with something really good, and instead he just came out with the most predictable thing possible. Also, I dispute his claim that everyone came out of WrestleMania 27 talking about him and Orton. He is a heel. Heels rationalise themselves in a positive light. He didnt really get attacked by 36 armed assailants on the night the Nexus debuted either.
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Post by HBL on Dec 10, 2012 7:25:28 GMT -5
IMO,it really wasn't. I enjoy almost every single promo Punk gives,but that one seemed like he was trying too hard. Which means the segment succeeded. The whole point of it was that Punk was trying to get into a shoot off and pull another "pipebomb" on The Miz. Unfortunately for him, Miz played it cool the whole time and as a result, the heel got burnt by the face because the face wouldnt let him get off his shots. It was a great face/heel segment. Yeah,pretty much.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 10, 2012 8:30:24 GMT -5
Playing it cool means you sound like you're about fifteen, and then yell in a really unconvincing 'intense' voice?
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Post by KobashiChop on Dec 10, 2012 15:51:48 GMT -5
Playing it cool means you sound like you're about fifteen, and then yell in a really unconvincing 'intense' voice? Up until the Shield intefered, Miz had Punk in his pocket. Not in a smarky "OMG Miz berries Punk on da mic" way, but in a kayfabe "face is one-upping the heel" way.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 10, 2012 17:00:25 GMT -5
Miz already got bumped down to IC Title level after having already been WWE Champion. How much further down can he be (realistically) depushed? Oh poor guy. He got to close out the show last week. Was in the main event of MITB, was on the poster of Survivor Series, has a movie coming out, etc etc. I can't believe that if he isn't in the WWE title picture, he's automatically being "underutilized" or "depushed". John Cena is also taken out of the WWE Title picture. But there's a huge difference between John Cena, and The Miz. Cena is out of the WWE Title picture, but when he's out of the title picture, he still feuds with (what passes for) upper tier talent who either have been or could believably be in the World Title picture Miz gets taken out of the WWE Title picture, but has feuds with people or has jobbed to people who are nowhere near World Title ready, so yes he's been de-pushed.
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Post by cool guy on Dec 10, 2012 17:47:24 GMT -5
I find it hard to argue that Miz wasn't (deservedly, imo) depushed. I mean, he went from main-eventing a Wrestlemania to basically a midcarder. He got only one WWE title shot after his his feud with Cena ended, and it was part of a triple threat. Now that he's a face, they're testing the waters to see if he's fit to move up the card again.
I don't see a problem with any of this.
Except the "Yo momma" joke, I mean.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 10, 2012 19:15:12 GMT -5
Playing it cool means you sound like you're about fifteen, and then yell in a really unconvincing 'intense' voice? Up until the Shield intefered, Miz had Punk in his pocket. Not in a smarky "OMG Miz berries Punk on da mic" way, but in a kayfabe "face is one-upping the heel" way. No he didn't. He sounded like a stumbling jackass, then started yelling his accusations in a laughable angry voice. At no time did he sound like he had the upper hand. He just sounded grating and lost.
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Post by Starshine on Dec 10, 2012 19:20:13 GMT -5
Oh poor guy. He got to close out the show last week. Was in the main event of MITB, was on the poster of Survivor Series, has a movie coming out, etc etc. I can't believe that if he isn't in the WWE title picture, he's automatically being "underutilized" or "depushed". John Cena is also taken out of the WWE Title picture. But there's a huge difference between John Cena, and The Miz. Cena is out of the WWE Title picture, but when he's out of the title picture, he still feuds with (what passes for) upper tier talent who either have been or could believably be in the World Title picture Miz gets taken out of the WWE Title picture, but has feuds with people or has jobbed to people who are nowhere near World Title ready, so yes he's been de-pushed. You're really going to compare John Cena and The Miz? I don't like Cena, but he's miles ahead of Miz in terms of pretty much everything that matters. Once Miz learns how to carry a great match, then maybe you can cry foul at his midcard status. IMO all that's he's shown me is that as he is he's not nearly ready to be a top tier guy.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 10, 2012 22:42:51 GMT -5
Without starting a new thread, good lord Miz in this role is just awful so far. Dude makes 'Poopy' John Cena look like some sorta composite Hogan/Rock in comparison.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 10, 2012 22:48:03 GMT -5
Without starting a new thread, good lord Miz in this role is just awful so far. Dude makes 'Poopy' John Cena look like some sorta composite Hogan/Rock in comparison. Disagree. For my money he was great tonight; his delivery was good, and the crowd reacted well. No complaints from me.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Dec 10, 2012 22:56:47 GMT -5
For me, Miz is more annoying as a babyface then as a heel. I don't know how this is possible.
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mizerable
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Post by mizerable on Dec 10, 2012 23:03:59 GMT -5
The pink and the stink.
Ewwww.
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Dec 10, 2012 23:21:36 GMT -5
Damien and Cody are an unwashed vagina?
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Post by Krimzon on Dec 10, 2012 23:22:58 GMT -5
The Miz has become far more unbearable as a face than he EVER was as a heel. He's a detriment to the show and seriously needs to be retooled.
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Post by Starshine on Dec 10, 2012 23:31:31 GMT -5
The pink and the stink. Ewwww. So I assume that since they're no longer promoting Breast Canser awareness that pink is now a bad colour.
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