Sparkybob
King Koopa
I have a status?
Posts: 10,990
|
Post by Sparkybob on Dec 10, 2012 23:28:04 GMT -5
Well I think it's safe that the WWE has decided how Miz's will act as a face. There was a lot of bashing of his segment tonight in the Raw thread so I ask, does this face character have any longevity or do you believe that this face turn will end up a failure?
|
|
Cronant
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Posts: 17,556
|
Post by Cronant on Dec 10, 2012 23:29:08 GMT -5
I kinda love it, to be honest. So cheesy. Crowd still eats up his "Really" stuff.
|
|
|
Post by joebob27 on Dec 10, 2012 23:32:05 GMT -5
It was brutal and totally douchebagish. In other words, exactly what they're looking for. This is the character they try to foist onto guys like Sheamus and it doesn't work on them.
Miz, on the other hand is perfect for it.
|
|
|
Post by BV on Dec 10, 2012 23:32:28 GMT -5
It was AWFUL tonight. The jokes were corny.
|
|
|
Post by CrazySting on Dec 10, 2012 23:32:57 GMT -5
I liked it. Very campy.
|
|
Jimmy
Grimlock
Posts: 13,317
|
Post by Jimmy on Dec 10, 2012 23:33:31 GMT -5
I'm just wondering how it makes sense to be MORE obnoxious as a face than he was as a heel.
|
|
|
Post by Rocket N. Nine on Dec 10, 2012 23:34:11 GMT -5
Well, terrible gay jokes worked for Cena.
|
|
zeez
Patti Mayonnaise
Yeah. That's right.
Posts: 32,702
|
Post by zeez on Dec 10, 2012 23:36:02 GMT -5
It depends. Is he going to keep making terrible jokes?
|
|
|
Post by Cesaro Smirk on Dec 10, 2012 23:36:36 GMT -5
I don't know, the crowd seemed to dig it. Surely we'll be seeing more of the same with creative jumping on it. Had a couple of ok things, minus they gay thing or course, and then it ended on a sour note imo. Either way, the crowd was into it more than usual.
|
|
BRV
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Wants him some Taco Flavored Kisses.
Posts: 16,970
|
Post by BRV on Dec 10, 2012 23:39:50 GMT -5
How is "massive douchebag" supposed to be a face gimmick? His character now is no different than it was during his run in 2006 as the host of SmackDown, except he has a new catchphrase and he's bagging on heels instead of faces.
But is that the only reason we're supposed to cheer for him? Is being an annoying horses ass, but doing it only to heels, enough of a schtick for the fans to cheer?
|
|
Krimzon
Crow T. Robot
This guy is the man!
R.I.P. Deadpool
Posts: 43,870
|
Post by Krimzon on Dec 10, 2012 23:40:32 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by joebob27 on Dec 10, 2012 23:40:56 GMT -5
The biggest problem with his character is that they really didn't define WHY he's a face. He just kinda became one. Even that whole "doubt" thing with Orton and Foley and all just got blown off. Maybe they revisit it, I dunno.
|
|
|
Post by joebob27 on Dec 10, 2012 23:41:38 GMT -5
How is "massive douchebag" supposed to be a face gimmick? His character now is no different than it was during his run in 2006 as the host of SmackDown, except he has a new catchphrase and he's bagging on heels instead of faces. But is that the only reason we're supposed to cheer for him? Is being an annoying horses ass, but doing it only to heels, enough of a schtick for the fans to cheer? It's exactly what they want their faces to be.
|
|
|
Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 10, 2012 23:41:51 GMT -5
How did Miz get over as a heel? By being an obnoxious douchebag, and all they're doing is making him be a douchebag against heels instead.
For once they're not watering down an act once they turn them face - it's not going to win over anybody who hated him before, admittedly, but those already on the bandwagon and the crowds seem to like where it's going.
|
|
|
Post by froggyfrog on Dec 10, 2012 23:42:31 GMT -5
I hate it
beardo and the weirdo??
no thanks
|
|
|
Post by Starshine on Dec 10, 2012 23:43:33 GMT -5
So long as we never see "agressive" Miz again I can't really complain that much.
|
|
BRV
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Wants him some Taco Flavored Kisses.
Posts: 16,970
|
Post by BRV on Dec 10, 2012 23:44:56 GMT -5
How is "massive douchebag" supposed to be a face gimmick? His character now is no different than it was during his run in 2006 as the host of SmackDown, except he has a new catchphrase and he's bagging on heels instead of faces. But is that the only reason we're supposed to cheer for him? Is being an annoying horses ass, but doing it only to heels, enough of a schtick for the fans to cheer? It's exactly what they want their faces to be. And that's the problem. The heel gimmicks in WWE right now are so much more respectable than the face gimmicks. Just to name two examples: Damien Sandow is awesome because his character is that of a literate, well-spoken individual. Santino Marella, on the other hand, sucks, because his character is that of an idiot who cracks jokes about how "cork" sounds like "cock".
|
|
@TenaciousBe
Hank Scorpio
Guess who's back... back again
Posts: 5,659
|
Post by @TenaciousBe on Dec 10, 2012 23:47:14 GMT -5
How did Miz get over as a heel? By being an obnoxious douchebag, and all they're doing is making him be a douchebag against heels instead. For once they're not watering down an act once they turn them face - it's not going to win over anybody who hated him before, admittedly, but those already on the bandwagon and the crowds seem to like where it's going. Except that now, instead of being a pretentious jerk who's all into himself, he's pandering to crowds and sucking up to other faces and just acting like some dude on the campaign trail trying way too hard to get everyone to like him. They did like they ALWAYS do with successful heels who are getting over because of their character, they strip away everything that was making them great (see: Morrison, John; Orton, Randal) and turn them into bland, boring, insufferable-to-watch blobs of nothing. I'd take Diva Search Host Miz over 2012 Face Miz.
|
|
|
Post by joebob27 on Dec 10, 2012 23:50:15 GMT -5
It's exactly what they want their faces to be. And that's the problem. The heel gimmicks in WWE right now are so much more respectable than the face gimmicks. Just to name two examples: Damien Sandow is awesome because his character is that of a literate, well-spoken individual. Santino Marella, on the other hand, sucks, because his character is that of an idiot who cracks jokes about how "cork" sounds like "cock". But that's how it's always been. WWE face characters are usually assholes. They biggest problem they've had is putting the wrong character on the wrong guys. Trying to make Sheamus this guy is asking for a disaster. You don't make Chris Benoit into the Rock. Sheamus is better on the mic than Benoit, but having him be this dickhead character doesn't work, he should beat people up. Miz shouldn't be beating people up, he should be a dickhead.
|
|
|
Post by Cesaro Smirk on Dec 10, 2012 23:50:33 GMT -5
I hate it beardo and the weirdo?? no thanks Yeah, the "Pink and Stink" thing finally did it for me. I pretty much just watched to watch Sandow wipe the floor with him. Sorry to say that didn't happen somehow.
|
|