I don't generally watch shows that I think suck ..

[MichaelMartini]

Dec 13, 2012 8:03:28 GMT -5 Arrow said:

I can understand watching out of a sense of obligation, however much I disagree with that (but then, I still watch 'The Simpsons' despite thinking it's become bland, so who am I to talk?), or because despite whatever it's faults you find it entertaining enough to be worth your time.

What confuses me is people who hate what the product has become, but watch it in the hopes it can change again. Change in a wrestling show is usually forced because of something like low ratings and decline in business, so continuing to support the show flies right in the face of that. If you want to help get wrestling to change, it'd make more sense to stop watching and paying.

Because if you continue to support it despite not wanting to, then why should WWE listen to anything you want? They've already got your money and viewership.

But that only matters if you have a neilson box. If I was a neilson family I would be taking action. As it is, the only money WWE sees from me is when I buy one of the video games. I used to watch PPV's at the show or at a bar. I haven't done that in 3 years.

And ratings are dipping. Just this week there was news about them wanting to make the product edgier.

[543Y2J]

Dec 12, 2012 20:23:49 GMT -5 thecrusherwi said:

Dec 12, 2012 20:16:48 GMT -5 SeVeN: #TheBadGuy. said:

I've never not watched wrestling, there have been down times and sh***y moments, but I'm a fan regardless. Wrestling has been one of the only things that has been a constant in my life, and it will always be no matter what the product is like. I guess I'm a wrestling addict.

This. I just can't live without it.

[dragon]

Dec 13, 2012 13:49:27 GMT -5 543Y2J said:

Dec 12, 2012 20:23:49 GMT -5 thecrusherwi said:

This. I just can't live without it.

[________ has left the building]

Going by most of the responses here, the first person who open a treatment center for wrestling fans will make a killing.

[Arrow]

Dec 13, 2012 13:46:27 GMT -5 MichaelMartini said:

Dec 13, 2012 8:03:28 GMT -5 Arrow said:

I can understand watching out of a sense of obligation, however much I disagree with that (but then, I still watch 'The Simpsons' despite thinking it's become bland, so who am I to talk?), or because despite whatever it's faults you find it entertaining enough to be worth your time.

What confuses me is people who hate what the product has become, but watch it in the hopes it can change again. Change in a wrestling show is usually forced because of something like low ratings and decline in business, so continuing to support the show flies right in the face of that. If you want to help get wrestling to change, it'd make more sense to stop watching and paying.

Because if you continue to support it despite not wanting to, then why should WWE listen to anything you want? They've already got your money and viewership.

But that only matters if you have a neilson box. If I was a neilson family I would be taking action. As it is, the only money WWE sees from me is when I buy one of the video games. I used to watch PPV's at the show or at a bar. I haven't done that in 3 years.

And ratings are dipping. Just this week there was news about them wanting to make the product edgier.

Until it actually happens, the "WWE may be going edgier" story is just news that may or may not happen, so I don't count that at all. Raw is still one of the top ranked cable shows on Monday Nights and USA's highest-rated show, if I'm not mistaken, so despite whatever the overall may be, as long as no one in charge is panicking, then the number itself may not matter.

And it doesn't matter if you have a Neilson Box or not, there are other ways you can stop supporting a product you don't like. For example, not buying pay-per-views WWE is trying to sell you on. This may not apply to you specifically, but there are a number of people here who will complain about a PPV yet still give out money for it. As long as they do stuff like that, there's no reason for WWE to care about them.

[Trout Stratus]

I love wrestling, regardless of what's happening.

[JoDaNa1281]

Dec 12, 2012 23:46:53 GMT -5 celticjobber said:

Many of us watch in the hope that WWE will improve. And maybe we enjoy some things while disliking some others. This is actually the most positive wrestling forum that I've ever been a member of. And I've been part of the "IWC" since 1998.

People who are fans of everything online bash it from time to time. Hell, one of the main forums for the show "Survivor" is called "Survivor Sucks". And the main "fan" forums for Howard Stern's show constantly bash Howard and his wife Beth. People on IMDb bitch about movies.

That's just how the internet has always been.

Exactly, every show, movie, etc. has places on the internet where people complain & trash it, hell, it's not like Raw is the only wrestling show on this forum to have people always watch it & always trash it, there's quite a few people on here who do the same thing to Impact & probably every other wrestling show.

It just wouldn't be the internet if there wasn't always someone complaining about something.

[Deleted]

wrestling to me is always a combo of regular entertainment and mst3k type amusement from terribleness. Generally it switches between the two many times in the same episode.

[HMARK Center]

I find it incredibly easy to go long stretches without watching wrestling, but it's pretty understandable that there are those who don't want to miss it, ever.

For me, it'd be like asking "if your <whatever sport> team sucks so badly, why do you keep watching them?"

For some wrestling fans, it's that there isn't much else on besides TNA (which will naturally not be everybody's cup of tea), and watching other companies often involves regularly ponying up cash that the person may not have.

It isn't like sitcoms or dramas, where if one sucks you could probably find a different one that appeals to you. With wrestling, it's WWE, TNA, a smaller company in some markets (e.g. ROH on Sinclair Broadcasting in some places), or get your wallet out.