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Post by HR on Dec 19, 2012 9:19:25 GMT -5
Irrespective of her performance? What are you talking about? She is a brilliant performer.
And the idea that she has everything handed to her is just so ridiculous. When her relationship with Daniel Bryan started, it was clear that there was no intentions from the creative team into making it a serious deal. It was obviously just a "haha look at the nerds" type thing. But AJ's performances gave them no choice but to run with the ball and include her in storylines more and more.
When you rescue a main event program from poor ratings performances like AJ did with Punk vs Bryan, you don't get things "handed" to you - you've earned them.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Dec 19, 2012 9:33:11 GMT -5
WWE have gone the wrong direction with her. Instead of becoming a manipulative slut she should have become the WWE equivalent of Overly Attached Girlfriend
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Post by Juice on Dec 19, 2012 9:40:25 GMT -5
Everything about AJ is terrible. It's not just the character it's the person playing it.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Dec 19, 2012 9:44:15 GMT -5
It wouldn't be so bad if she was a better performer. She's such an awkward and clunky actress even by wrestling standards.
"She's a goddess" uhhhhh. Okay then!
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Post by Jimmy on Dec 19, 2012 9:47:12 GMT -5
Everything about AJ is terrible. It's not just the character it's the person playing it. So AJ is a terrible person? And jeez, you guys really don't have much perspective on acting if you really believe AJ is anywhere near the lower spectrum in the world of terrible wrestling acting.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Dec 19, 2012 9:48:43 GMT -5
Examples?
Also not being the worst doesn't count as being good in my book.
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Post by Widow's Peak on Dec 19, 2012 9:51:07 GMT -5
^ There's a Kelly Kelly backstage segment that she did with Edge a year or two ago. I can't seem to find it online, but take my word for it when I say that it's the measuring stick by which all other bad wrestling acting should be judged. ;D
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 19, 2012 9:54:45 GMT -5
Examples? Also not being the worst doesn't count as being good in my book.
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Post by Jimmy on Dec 19, 2012 9:57:42 GMT -5
I mean, I don't know what specific examples you'd want. I thought she was great as DB's sympathetic girlfriend who got murdered by Big Show and her performance as the girl desperate for attention in the DB/Punk/Kane angle. I will readily admit that ever since the 1000th RAW where she canceled the wedding and became GM that her character has basically gone off the rails (as I've said before, the AJ/Cena thing was a total mismatch that only a guy like Vince would like), but that's on the writing and not on AJ.
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Post by Juice on Dec 19, 2012 10:03:06 GMT -5
Everything about AJ is terrible. It's not just the character it's the person playing it. So AJ is a terrible person? And jeez, you guys really don't have much perspective on acting if you really believe AJ is anywhere near the lower spectrum in the world of terrible wrestling acting. OK Mr. Oscar winner, I happen to be an independent film maker and have seen many horrible actors in both class and productions who have entertained, and gotten the job done. AJ does neither. She has the same monotone voice for her crazyness, makes he eyes wide and skips around. Sorry fellas but people only defend her cause they wanna poke her naughty parts, which brings me to my next point. TO EACH THEIR OWN, but IMO she' not even attractive and her "real life nerd" shit comes off very desperate to me. Nerd is in right now, but I don't buy into it. And as pointed out she has done nothing but literally soak up promo time for high profile feuds that don't need her. WWE title feuds not about the title, but about pushing her down our throats. And what surprises me id people actually hate the CM Punk heel turn? I am so thankful for it, because not is it really good IMO but it got her the f*** away from him. She is a vacuum for suckyness and one of the main reasons the product hasn't reached it's potential yet. She's boning someone important backstage, she has to be to get the focus she has. Cause she isn't worthy of it by her own merits.
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Post by Sparkybob on Dec 19, 2012 10:06:05 GMT -5
So AJ is a terrible person? And jeez, you guys really don't have much perspective on acting if you really believe AJ is anywhere near the lower spectrum in the world of terrible wrestling acting. OK Mr. Oscar winner, I happen to be an independent film maker and have seen many horrible actors in both class and productions who have entertained, and gotten the job done. AJ does neither. She has the same monotone voice for her crazyness, makes he eyes wide and skips around. Sorry fellas but people only defend her cause they wanna poke her naughty parts, which brings me to my next point. TO EACH THEIR OWN, but IMO she' not even attractive and her "real life nerd" s*** comes off very desperate to me. Nerd is in right now, but I don't buy into it. And as pointed out she has done nothing but literally soak up promo time for high profile feuds that don't need her. WWE title feuds not about the title, but about pushing her down our throats. And what surprises me id people actually hate the CM Punk heel turn? I am so thankful for it, because not is it really good IMO but it got her the f*** away from him. She is a vacuum for suckyness and one of the main reasons the product hasn't reached it's potential yet. She's boning someone important backstage, she has to be to get the focus she has. Cause she isn't worthy of it by her own merits. yes because the only way for diva to get a big push is if she is sleeping with someone backstage right
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Post by Jimmy on Dec 19, 2012 10:09:29 GMT -5
So AJ is a terrible person? And jeez, you guys really don't have much perspective on acting if you really believe AJ is anywhere near the lower spectrum in the world of terrible wrestling acting. OK Mr. Oscar winner, I happen to be an independent film maker and have seen many horrible actors in both class and productions who have entertained, and gotten the job done. AJ does neither. She has the same monotone voice for her crazyness, makes he eyes wide and skips around. Sorry fellas but people only defend her cause they wanna poke her naughty parts, which brings me to my next point. TO EACH THEIR OWN, but IMO she' not even attractive and her "real life nerd" s*** comes off very desperate to me. Nerd is in right now, but I don't buy into it. And as pointed out she has done nothing but literally soak up promo time for high profile feuds that don't need her. WWE title feuds not about the title, but about pushing her down our throats. And what surprises me id people actually hate the CM Punk heel turn? I am so thankful for it, because not is it really good IMO but it got her the f*** away from him. She is a vacuum for suckyness and one of the main reasons the product hasn't reached it's potential yet. She's boning someone important backstage, she has to be to get the focus she has. Cause she isn't worthy of it by her own merits. So anybody who defends AJ as performer is biased because they think she's hot, but you are totally on point (as an independent filmmaker) with your assessment of her performance and not biased at all. Except you just happen to think she's not attractive and has a fake personality. But someone like me is the biased one. Makes sense.
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Post by Juice on Dec 19, 2012 10:13:50 GMT -5
OK Mr. Oscar winner, I happen to be an independent film maker and have seen many horrible actors in both class and productions who have entertained, and gotten the job done. AJ does neither. She has the same monotone voice for her crazyness, makes he eyes wide and skips around. Sorry fellas but people only defend her cause they wanna poke her naughty parts, which brings me to my next point. TO EACH THEIR OWN, but IMO she' not even attractive and her "real life nerd" s*** comes off very desperate to me. Nerd is in right now, but I don't buy into it. And as pointed out she has done nothing but literally soak up promo time for high profile feuds that don't need her. WWE title feuds not about the title, but about pushing her down our throats. And what surprises me id people actually hate the CM Punk heel turn? I am so thankful for it, because not is it really good IMO but it got her the f*** away from him. She is a vacuum for suckyness and one of the main reasons the product hasn't reached it's potential yet. She's boning someone important backstage, she has to be to get the focus she has. Cause she isn't worthy of it by her own merits. So anybody who defends AJ as performer is biased because they think she's hot, but you are totally on point (as an independent filmmaker) with your assessment of her performance and not biased at all. Except you just happen to think she's not attractive and has a fake personality. But someone like me is the biased one. Makes sense. Yep, hence my first point, everything about her is terrible.
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Post by bigbadbull on Dec 19, 2012 12:32:27 GMT -5
Concerning Clarie Lynch and AJ's acting: AJ may be "better" but that's saying one piece of s**t doesn't smell as bad as another but it's still s**t.
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Post by AdamAFL was sooooo wrong on Dec 19, 2012 12:34:29 GMT -5
My god, yes. I like AJ, I really do, she seems like a pretty cool person but as an on-screen character she does nothing for me. The character itself is a hot mess, they could've saved it somewhat if straight after she pushed Cena off the ladder her and Dolph had kissed Edge/Lita style and gone down that road but they've made it even more confusing now. It doesn't help that, even for a wrestler, her acting skills leave a lot to be desired.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 19, 2012 13:00:38 GMT -5
I do indeed, she's annoying as hell.
She was good when she was solely teamed with D Bry, but since then? Good lord.
lol Yup, totally that, insteada not finding her entertaining. Wowsers.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 19, 2012 13:02:17 GMT -5
Concerning Clarie Lynch and AJ's acting: AJ may be "better" but that's saying one piece of s**t doesn't smell as bad as another but it's still s**t. True but if you're using the statement "she's the worst of the worst", there's always someone worst. Without Daniels hamming it up, the Claire Lynch saga had the worst overall acting in a major league wrestling company.
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Post by bigbadbull on Dec 19, 2012 14:48:53 GMT -5
Concerning Clarie Lynch and AJ's acting: AJ may be "better" but that's saying one piece of s**t doesn't smell as bad as another but it's still s**t. True but if you're using the statement "she's the worst of the worst", there's always someone worst. Without Daniels hamming it up, the Claire Lynch saga had the worst overall acting in a major league wrestling company. I consider AJ worst because of her overpush in May which includes overshadowing the Wwe title and being the focus of Raw during the Summer and overshadowing Dolph and his chase for the WHC. Her character makes no sense and her gimmick is nothing than a cheap crutch to end matches in a "controversial" matter.
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Post by The Ichi on Dec 19, 2012 14:52:28 GMT -5
She's incredibly annoying and a really, really bad actor. Seems like a nice person IRL though.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Dec 19, 2012 14:55:24 GMT -5
Considering how quickly people condemn the idea of WWE doing anything long term, layered or clever, I find it a bit tough to swallow that so many people buy that AJ's character has been deliberately fickle all the time.
I think they use 'lol, she's crazy' as an excuse for slapdash booking where they can just get her to do anything they like, whatever furthers the story, because AJ's crazy.
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