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Post by nate5054 on Feb 27, 2013 2:13:23 GMT -5
At least here in Texas, this is how it would have happened: - They saw him speeding and driving erratically and made the traffic stop. This was the original report from TMZ. He was going 10 miles over, swerving and making U-turns.
- The officer would have already suspected DUI and when he got close and smelled the weed, he'd search the car. (Possibly observed physical signs of him being stoned as well (pupils, ways he was acting and so on).
- Once the weed was found, he'd be arrested for DUI based on his driving, the smell of the smoked weed and any other physical signs observed and taken for most likely a blood test (piss test possible but unlikely) then booked.
From there, everything depends on how the test comes out. If he has anything in his system he'll be DUI otherwise he's golden. The swerving part is what would bother me the most. But I haven't read that. I just read he was going 10 MPH over the speed limit. While I don't advocate speeding that's not too egregious. I would say that the swerving would be the biggest evidence of actual impairment other than the smell of smoked weed in the car. Wonder if he refused the blood test. Honestly, and this is just one man's opinion, the facts that come out for his DUI will determine what I think about him. If there isn't much evidence other than "the officer's opinion" then I'm not too impressed, even if that's within the bounds of the law.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Feb 27, 2013 2:18:08 GMT -5
This comment is borderline political. Much less political themed comments have been deleted by you, yourself. What? I'm explaining how a traffic stop works in Texas. That is not political. Well you see politics and police both start with Poli... so clearly it's political in nature
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Post by Thunderbolt on Feb 27, 2013 11:47:03 GMT -5
Vince already gave him 30 lashings for punishment.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Feb 27, 2013 11:55:40 GMT -5
One thing that one must think of. What happens if in two weeks, someone on the roster is under the influence gets caught, in a crash and somehow causes a fatality. WWE has a bad precedent with DUIs, could you imagine the shit storm that would come up. And not just in two weeks, but anytime in the future, I mean, holy shit.
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Post by MGH on Feb 27, 2013 11:57:42 GMT -5
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Post by Push R Truth on Feb 27, 2013 11:57:52 GMT -5
One thing that one must think of. What happens if in two weeks, someone on the roster is under the influence gets caught, in a crash and somehow causes a fatality. WWE has a bad precedent with DUIs, could you imagine the s*** storm that would come up. And not just in two weeks, but anytime in the future, I mean, holy s***. Happened a couple times to the NFL and after about 2 days the story disappears. You can WHAT IF your way to any doomsday scenario.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2013 12:05:12 GMT -5
One thing that one must think of. What happens if in two weeks, someone on the roster is under the influence gets caught, in a crash and somehow causes a fatality. WWE has a bad precedent with DUIs, could you imagine the s*** storm that would come up. And not just in two weeks, but anytime in the future, I mean, holy s***. Happened a couple times to the NFL and after about 2 days the story disappears. You can WHAT IF your way to any doomsday scenario. Seriously haha
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Post by Andrew is Good on Feb 27, 2013 12:21:17 GMT -5
One thing that one must think of. What happens if in two weeks, someone on the roster is under the influence gets caught, in a crash and somehow causes a fatality. WWE has a bad precedent with DUIs, could you imagine the s*** storm that would come up. And not just in two weeks, but anytime in the future, I mean, holy s***. Happened a couple times to the NFL and after about 2 days the story disappears. You can WHAT IF your way to any doomsday scenario. Yeah, the NFL murder-suicide stuck around as long as the WWE murder-suicide.
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Post by kieran on Feb 27, 2013 13:35:08 GMT -5
Are people forgetting it has to do with weed? A natural and completly healthy painkiller, not heroin.
Would you rather he popped a few Somas and developed liver disease in later life?
Not even getting into the DUI which is an ALLEGATION.
Cant understand how people can take a police report and TMZ as gospel.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Feb 27, 2013 13:36:26 GMT -5
One thing that one must think of. What happens if in two weeks, someone on the roster is under the influence gets caught, in a crash and somehow causes a fatality. WWE has a bad precedent with DUIs, could you imagine the s*** storm that would come up. And not just in two weeks, but anytime in the future, I mean, holy s***. Obviously if he caused a fatality, their handling of the situation would be different. He probably would've already been written off of TV.
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Post by Bo Rida on Feb 27, 2013 14:20:11 GMT -5
I didn't know where else to post this so here will do:
We the people fight for our existence We don't claim to be perfect but we're free We dream our dreams alone with no resistance Fading like the stars we wish to be
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Post by Andrew is Good on Feb 27, 2013 14:44:07 GMT -5
Are people forgetting it has to do with weed? A natural and completly healthy painkiller, not heroin. Would you rather he popped a few Somas and developed liver disease in later life? Not even getting into the DUI which is an ALLEGATION. Cant understand how people can take a police report and TMZ as gospel. The whole "natural" thing is a bulls*** argument. You know what else is natural? Poison ivy. Let's rub ourselves in it and feel it's natural goodness. I want to go into more details about my opinion on it, but I think it might break a rule and I accidentally broke one recently and maybe another in recent memory, so I don't want to test it.
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Post by nate5054 on Feb 27, 2013 15:01:26 GMT -5
One thing that one must think of. What happens if in two weeks, someone on the roster is under the influence gets caught, in a crash and somehow causes a fatality. WWE has a bad precedent with DUIs, could you imagine the s*** storm that would come up. And not just in two weeks, but anytime in the future, I mean, holy s***. One of the key differences in the situation you just brought up is that in most states, if not all, a DUI that results in a fatality is vehicular homicide, which is a felony. And most places of employment deal pretty harshly with felonies.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2013 15:04:25 GMT -5
Are people forgetting it has to do with weed? A natural and completly healthy painkiller, not heroin. Would you rather he popped a few Somas and developed liver disease in later life? Not even getting into the DUI which is an ALLEGATION. Cant understand how people can take a police report and TMZ as gospel. It doesn't matter what it is. Inhaling the smoke from anything is inherently unhealthy for your nose, throat and lungs. Keep in mind he's also driving intoxicated. Which is nothing short of reckless behavior. Any punishment he gets from this, he deserves. ...and police reports are usually pretty reliable.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Feb 27, 2013 15:04:59 GMT -5
One thing that one must think of. What happens if in two weeks, someone on the roster is under the influence gets caught, in a crash and somehow causes a fatality. WWE has a bad precedent with DUIs, could you imagine the s*** storm that would come up. And not just in two weeks, but anytime in the future, I mean, holy s***. One of the key differences in the situation you just brought up is that in most states, if not all, a DUI that results in a fatality is vehicular homicide, which is a felony. And most places of employment deal pretty harshly with felonies. I understand that. What I'm saying is, there seemingly has been no issues with those who got DUIs in WWE. And it isn't fair that people in the NFL can get away with stuff and guys in WWE can't. It isn't right, but if it ends up being the case where someone who is under the influence gets a DUI in WWE kills somebody, they will likely look into the track record of everyone in WWE who got a DUI. I'm not saying fire Swagger, but obviously there seems to be an issue with guys not caring, or living the party lifestyle, or whatever. It's joked a lot about how guys are always caught in Florida and such. I also feel it's not looked at as a big deal.
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Post by kieran on Feb 27, 2013 16:04:24 GMT -5
Are people forgetting it has to do with weed? A natural and completly healthy painkiller, not heroin. Would you rather he popped a few Somas and developed liver disease in later life? Not even getting into the DUI which is an ALLEGATION. Cant understand how people can take a police report and TMZ as gospel. The whole "natural" thing is a bulls*** argument. You know what else is natural? Poison ivy. Let's rub ourselves in it and feel it's natural goodness. I want to go into more details about my opinion on it, but I think it might break a rule and I accidentally broke one recently and maybe another in recent memory, so I don't want to test it. Except cannabis has proven medical usages and there isnt one single death in human history that can be attributed to cannabis use.
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Post by Kash Flagg on Feb 27, 2013 16:32:34 GMT -5
The whole "natural" thing is a bulls*** argument. You know what else is natural? Poison ivy. Let's rub ourselves in it and feel it's natural goodness. I want to go into more details about my opinion on it, but I think it might break a rule and I accidentally broke one recently and maybe another in recent memory, so I don't want to test it. Except cannabis has proven medical usages and there isnt one single death in human history that can be attributed to cannabis use. Driving stoned can cause an accident as much as drinking drunk...except most stoned people drive 20 miles UNDER the speed limit. It's still driving impaired, even if you can clear your eyes and make someone hungry.
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Post by Bo Rida on Feb 27, 2013 16:36:28 GMT -5
Maybe there have been no direct deaths from cannabis use but plenty have died due to the cannabis trade. That's before you get into indirect effects like mixing with other drugs, actions people take while paranoid, the unproven long-term effects on mental health and cases like this where it impairs actions such as driving.
Regardless of the rights and wrongs of cannabis use it's still illegal and driving while under it's influence endangers others.
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Post by BigWill on Feb 27, 2013 16:37:41 GMT -5
Oh how this thread has taken a strange turn.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2013 16:41:32 GMT -5
Oh how this thread has taken a strange turn. That's because there's nothing to really talk about now. No word of a punishment for Swagger and the angle seems to be going full-steam ahead.
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