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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on May 21, 2014 22:04:41 GMT -5
FAWA's plague is that it relies upon members to volunteer to write matches. This used to work fine but at some point it became like pulling teeth. Might be high time for an e-fed revolution on these boards. Tear it all down and start anew. But I'm nutty like that. How would this "revolution" work? I don't have a solid answer but something along the lines of ending WWE:FAN Edition and FAWA to start a hybrid e-fed that uses elements of both as well as EWT elements. The roster could be anyone real or fictional. Real wrestlers can be from any promotion past or present. Real wrestlers are drafted while original wrestlers can be submitted to the draft at the creator's option. I imagine that the hybrid approach would be less "live" than WWE:FAN Edition but less writer-intensive than FAWA or EWT. Maybe shows take place over the course of the work week rather than on a single day. That way it accommodates those who can't be there to vote for shows as things stand now. On the other hand, imagine if the live voting style of WWE: FAN Edition was encouraged to be more detailed. A few sentences that describe a sequence rather than a single move. It would make the match feel more like a match without asking for any one member to write it all out. If WWE: FAN Edition and FAWA and the few EWT guys who are trying (bless their hearts) came together it could be a bigger e-fed with a possibly best of all worlds style. Furthermore, it could aggregate more new members - two new members for two e-feds is one new member each while two new members for one e-fed are two new members total. That's off the cuff.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Jun 10, 2014 0:09:13 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, is there an upper limit to page count before a typical poster shies away from joining in?
For example, is a 5 page thread less intimidating than a 10 page thread? What about 10 pages versus 15, 20, 30, etc?
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Post by bigalbass86 AKA Smokin Vokoun on Jun 10, 2014 0:22:44 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, is there an upper limit to page count before a typical poster shies away from joining in? For example, is a 5 page thread less intimidating than a 10 page thread? What about 10 pages versus 15, 20, 30, etc? I don't know if it would be intimidating. But I do think that maybe someone would see an extremely long thread and think that there is a ton of things to catch up on, and then think that it's not worth the effort to joining, if that makes any sense.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2014 13:17:40 GMT -5
How would this "revolution" work? I don't have a solid answer but something along the lines of ending WWE:FAN Edition and FAWA to start a hybrid e-fed that uses elements of both as well as EWT elements. The roster could be anyone real or fictional. Real wrestlers can be from any promotion past or present. Real wrestlers are drafted while original wrestlers can be submitted to the draft at the creator's option. I imagine that the hybrid approach would be less "live" than WWE:FAN Edition but less writer-intensive than FAWA or EWT. Maybe shows take place over the course of the work week rather than on a single day. That way it accommodates those who can't be there to vote for shows as things stand now. On the other hand, imagine if the live voting style of WWE: FAN Edition was encouraged to be more detailed. A few sentences that describe a sequence rather than a single move. It would make the match feel more like a match without asking for any one member to write it all out. If WWE: FAN Edition and FAWA and the few EWT guys who are trying (bless their hearts) came together it could be a bigger e-fed with a possibly best of all worlds style. Furthermore, it could aggregate more new members - two new members for two e-feds is one new member each while two new members for one e-fed are two new members total. That's off the cuff. I'm amazed a great idea like this hasn't been discussed more. There's been talk of starting an Indy fed to replace TNA FAN, which is stupid, since that fed failed due to a lack of participation. Instead of starting a third fed, it would make a ton more sense to just combine the existing feds. People from WWE/TNA FAN can still write their guys. I know I'd retake Kendrick and TMZ in a heartbeat. But the original characters from FAWA can still exist under the new umbrella fed. It lightens everyone's workload and also opens up brand new possibilities, like invasion angles, which always do well, so it's a win-win situation.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2014 13:33:56 GMT -5
I don't have a solid answer but something along the lines of ending WWE:FAN Edition and FAWA to start a hybrid e-fed that uses elements of both as well as EWT elements. The roster could be anyone real or fictional. Real wrestlers can be from any promotion past or present. Real wrestlers are drafted while original wrestlers can be submitted to the draft at the creator's option. I imagine that the hybrid approach would be less "live" than WWE:FAN Edition but less writer-intensive than FAWA or EWT. Maybe shows take place over the course of the work week rather than on a single day. That way it accommodates those who can't be there to vote for shows as things stand now. On the other hand, imagine if the live voting style of WWE: FAN Edition was encouraged to be more detailed. A few sentences that describe a sequence rather than a single move. It would make the match feel more like a match without asking for any one member to write it all out. If WWE: FAN Edition and FAWA and the few EWT guys who are trying (bless their hearts) came together it could be a bigger e-fed with a possibly best of all worlds style. Furthermore, it could aggregate more new members - two new members for two e-feds is one new member each while two new members for one e-fed are two new members total. That's off the cuff. I'm amazed a great idea like this hasn't been discussed more. There's been talk of starting an Indy fed to replace TNA FAN, which is stupid, since that fed failed due to a lack of participation. Instead of starting a third fed, it would make a ton more sense to just combine the existing feds. People from WWE/TNA FAN can still write their guys. I know I'd retake Kendrick and TMZ in a heartbeat. But the original characters from FAWA can still exist under the new umbrella fed. It lightens everyone's workload and also opens up brand new possibilities, like invasion angles, which always do well, so it's a win-win situation. So keep the shows separate, but put them in a single thread with small amounts of crossover? While I'd love it, I can't help but feel two separate feds in the one thread would drive away new members.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2014 13:40:30 GMT -5
I don't have a solid answer but something along the lines of ending WWE:FAN Edition and FAWA to start a hybrid e-fed that uses elements of both as well as EWT elements. The roster could be anyone real or fictional. Real wrestlers can be from any promotion past or present. Real wrestlers are drafted while original wrestlers can be submitted to the draft at the creator's option. I imagine that the hybrid approach would be less "live" than WWE:FAN Edition but less writer-intensive than FAWA or EWT. Maybe shows take place over the course of the work week rather than on a single day. That way it accommodates those who can't be there to vote for shows as things stand now. On the other hand, imagine if the live voting style of WWE: FAN Edition was encouraged to be more detailed. A few sentences that describe a sequence rather than a single move. It would make the match feel more like a match without asking for any one member to write it all out. If WWE: FAN Edition and FAWA and the few EWT guys who are trying (bless their hearts) came together it could be a bigger e-fed with a possibly best of all worlds style. Furthermore, it could aggregate more new members - two new members for two e-feds is one new member each while two new members for one e-fed are two new members total. That's off the cuff. I'm amazed a great idea like this hasn't been discussed more. There's been talk of starting an Indy fed to replace TNA FAN, which is stupid, since that fed failed due to a lack of participation. Instead of starting a third fed, it would make a ton more sense to just combine the existing feds. People from WWE/TNA FAN can still write their guys. I know I'd retake Kendrick and TMZ in a heartbeat. But the original characters from FAWA can still exist under the new umbrella fed. It lightens everyone's workload and also opens up brand new possibilities, like invasion angles, which always do well, so it's a win-win situation. No, in the end, FAWA would likely fizzle out in favor of WWE FAN. Look at this way: WWE FAN is clearly the more popular fed, what hurts us is the intimidation factor. People see the huge number, like Thread 238, and they freak out. "How the hell do I catch up with all of that?!" If we can find a way to overcome that, I think we'd get way more new members. On the flipside, FAWA has always been a revolving door. New people come and go regularly. That was the case when I was running things and influenced my decision to leave back in 2011. How do you book when a large portion of your roster keeps going AWOL? I think people join, see how much work goes into it, and quits. Whereas the couple of new members WWE FAN does get end up staying for the long haul. Say what you will, but WWE FAN really doesn't require much. Mikey and CH do most of the work, booking and writing the shows. But people are more willing to volunteer to help out with the PPVs. Otherwise, the most you have to do is promo each week. FAWA expects more when it's clear that outside of a few loyal members, nobody wants to put in that amount of work. It's not a knock on the fed itself, it's just that it evolved from being the original WWE FAN fed to being EWT V2. If the two feds did merge, I can easily see the original FAWA characters being phased out for the real wrestlers. And from their, you'll see most of the core WWE characters pushed aside for TNA/ROH/Indy guys. Effectively, merging the two feds would end up killing both dead. Which is why I'm against it.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Jun 16, 2014 14:28:57 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm not sure a proper merger would be a good idea. I suggested burning it all to the ground to found a hybrid fed in their places as a means of starting with a clean slate and good membership size. I like the idea of a fed that WWE FAN and FAWA can crossover within in theory but an e-fed with a hybrid approach that is its own thing would be better due to accessibility. If such a fed "killed" WWE FAN or FAWA it would be because of popularity and natural selection rather than unintended consequences.
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Post by TOO SWEET on Jun 16, 2014 22:20:40 GMT -5
If you'd like to kill FAWA and start a new because of problems and a re-structuring, go ahead. But I don't see any reason for WWE:FAN to need to die too. We're doing fine right now.
Besides, some people just like one and not the other. I think controlling and writing for current wrestlers is fun... but I have absolutely no interest in creating my own guy and having them battle other original guys. It gets too "fan-fic" for my liking and I'd feel much more comfortable writing a promo that says "Nick Dinsmore sucks" (one of Gus' characters) than "Gus Richlin sucks" (another character of Gus, but shares the same name as the poster/person which makes it more awkward to me).
Even just combining the two turns me off because I'd much rather have my character take on an actual wrestler, like Justin Gabriel, than a created guy like Scott Martin.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Jun 17, 2014 2:17:01 GMT -5
I'm no longer a member of either and don't foresee being one in the near future. I care enough to throw out solutions to their problems however extreme. I suggested axing WWE FAN Edition because I keep reading about a new member problem. Different problem, same solution to kill two birds with one stone. It might not be the right solution but it's one I threw out.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Jun 17, 2014 11:55:10 GMT -5
A few fresh thoughts:
1) Gonna be pedantic for a moment but writing a canon character as opposed to an original one is the definition of fan fic. I think it's the self insert factor that rubs your rhubarb the wrong way, Spartan. That and once has a previously invested understanding of canon wrestlers as opposed to original (however derivative) characters. To those I have no argument and it's all besides the point.
2) "Burn it all to the ground" is an extreme solution to be sure but a hard reboot for either e-fed might be worth considering.
3) What might be the fundamental problem: what's the influx of new members on these boards in a typical month? How does it compare over the years? How does that compare to when these were the Wrestlecrap forums?
That issue, if a problem, trickles down over any e-fed membership problems. Basically, there might not be anything anyone can really do to increase e-fed membership.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Nov 14, 2014 1:52:23 GMT -5
Anyone else up for Mafia again?
I think smaller games would be the way to go this time. I'm thinking ~12 players small. Faster, less burnout, more focus, better chance to get another game going, etc.
I am willing to run a game but it would be plain with no theme. Just about getting straight to business.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2014 16:20:22 GMT -5
Anyone else up for Mafia again? I think smaller games would be the way to go this time. I'm thinking ~12 players small. Faster, less burnout, more focus, better chance to get another game going, etc. I am willing to run a game but it would be plain with no theme. Just about getting straight to business. Aye, sure.
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Post by Dub H on Dec 3, 2014 16:28:54 GMT -5
Man,i totally forgot about Mafia,i had one planned and never did it.. left me disappointed.But i would be up to playing again.
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Post by Fake Jesus on Apr 12, 2015 17:09:47 GMT -5
WWE:FAN - we need more kids
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 17:35:31 GMT -5
WWE:FAN - we need more kids Yeah, if anyone wants to join, you'd be helping them out. I may not be able to participate anymore, I don't want to see the best part of my time on this forum just die. So please, join WWE FAN today!
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Apr 12, 2015 17:56:51 GMT -5
Yeah you'll get to deal with me....
Ok bad example of benefits but don't let tha scare you away its's actually rather fun.
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Post by Fake Jesus on Apr 30, 2015 3:24:25 GMT -5
Our E-Feds sure are going through some rough times.
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Post by curtrok on Sept 25, 2019 22:03:35 GMT -5
It’s time to bring the EWT back.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Sept 26, 2019 11:04:40 GMT -5
Well that was unexpected.
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Post by curtrok on Sept 26, 2019 17:03:37 GMT -5
I’m thinking EWT one night only January 1st 2020.
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