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Post by Citizen Snips on Mar 12, 2013 22:59:15 GMT -5
The Dark Knight Rises is just a mess of a film.
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Post by chazraps on Mar 12, 2013 23:03:38 GMT -5
My issue with The Dark Knight Rises is that Batman's just not a good hero in it. He doesn't really save the day. Everything's kind of already shit.
I had a similar problem with The Amazing Spider-Man. Literally every problem in that film is Peter Parker's fault, so the entire movie is just him cleaning up his own mistakes. Not very heroic at all.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Mar 12, 2013 23:04:11 GMT -5
The Dark Knight Rises is just a mess of a film. This is also true. There was just too much going on, too many attempted messages and metaphors, and a lot of unnecessary plot. I think having Batman retired for eight years really hurt the ending of The Dark Knight. When I came out of seeing The Dark Knight, the first thing in my head was "How cool is the next movie going to be, where Batman's been operating and fighting crime with the cops on his ass for years, and how will he finally clear his name?". I mean, Gordon's monologue said they'd hunt him "because he can take it". Well clearly not, because he went home and hung up his Batsuit, apparently. All I know is that I'd have enjoyed the movie a lot more without Bruce Wayne being a weak-willed crybaby hiding in his house.
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Post by Jazzman on Mar 12, 2013 23:07:51 GMT -5
- The best Christopher Nolan film is The Prestige, no questions asked.
- John C. Reilly is one of the 5 best actors/actresses in the business, and he should be appreciated as such
- Pirahna 3DD was more fun to watch and more entertaining than The Avengers... by miles.
- Samuel L Jackson in Django > Samuel L Jackson in Pulp Fiction
- Adventureland > Superbad
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Mar 12, 2013 23:23:05 GMT -5
- I like the Twilight movies.
- The Phantom Menace was awesome.
- Shia LeBeouf's a better actor than people give him credit for. Unfortunately, he's been hampered by his previous reputation as the "go-to deuteragonist in major franchises that nobody asked for".
- Most horror films, unfortunately, bore me. I'm not spiteful about it, it's just not my genre. In fact, Bob Fosse's Star 80 scares me more than most slasher flicks.
- I don't like the Hangover movies.
- Brosnan and Craig are better Bonds than Connery.
- The Secret of NIMH deserved a nomination for Best Picture of 1982. And yes, I think it can hang with Ghandi.
- Scarface deserved a nomination for Best Picture of 1983.
- Milk, Crash, and Precious are admittedly all heavy-handed and Oscar baity. And all of them kick ass and are more than deserving of their wins.
- 2001 doesn't hold up that well. Or at least not against the rest of Kubrick's catalogue.
- Johnny Depp can be as quirky and goofy as he wants and I don't think I'll ever get sick of it.
- Nothing against Rocky Horror, but the Phantom of the Paradise is an even better and sorely overlooked 70's cult rock opera.
- If the Academy were always right, DiCaprio would have won at least two Oscars by now.
- I've always been a bit "meh" on the Matrix trilogy as a whole. I don't hate it, it's just kinda there.
- Balto was just as good as much of the Disney renaissance.
- Tyler Perry, while obviously a terrible hack of a writer, actually isn't that bad an actor.
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Post by Bishblast on Mar 12, 2013 23:24:48 GMT -5
Fight Club. Scarface (Brian De Palma's version). Donnie Darko.
All among the most overrated movies of all time.
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Post by DragonMasterP on Mar 13, 2013 0:22:45 GMT -5
Burton Batman movies>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nolan Batman movies.
Call me old fashioned, but I've always believed this.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Mar 13, 2013 0:27:38 GMT -5
"Spoof films" where 95% of the jokes are pop culture references and/or parodying scenes from other movies are actually kind of funny.
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Post by The OP on Mar 13, 2013 1:03:04 GMT -5
Heath Ledger gave a mediocre performance as the Joker. People say Jack Nicholson just played himself but that's bull because he had all the classic Joker characteristics including the laugh, and I got to thinking the other day, did Joker even laugh in the Dark Knight? I honestly don't remember. If he did it obviously was in a way that was not as memorable to me. The Dark Knight is the third best Batman film after Batman (1989) and Batman Returns.
I still haven't seen Dark Knight Rises. I don't especially like Christian Bale as Batman, and I don't think Bane is a very interesting character as far as Batman villains go. I don't really understand why out of all possibilities Bane has now been used twice. Part of me thinks it's just because he's really huge and muscular, which is kind of sad.
I think the Watchmen is the best of the comic book adaptions to come out in recent years. Dick Tracy is the best of all time.
Timothy Dalton was the best James Bond.
Avatar was one of the most poorly written films I've ever seen. The word "bitch" was used as a punchline twice (as in we were supposed to think it was hilarious that someone used the word "bitch") and the script seemed like it could have been written in about ten minutes. I can't remember the names of any of the characters or the aliens, etc because they weren't memorable. I don't care if you hated Star Wars, if you've seen it once you remember names like Luke Skywalker and R2-D2. "Unobtanium" is memorable for how stupid it is, that's about it. Put a low rent Matt Damon clone in the lead role, a predictable story and you've got yourself a pretty crappy movie. I've heard that some film Professors have called it one of the greatest movies of all time. If that's true, I think that's an embarrassment.
I don't find frat boy humor movies like "American Pie" very funny.
A lot of people seem to not like them for some reason, but I think more good movies were coming out of the major studios when they were trying to get a thumbs up from Siskel and Ebert. In the age of the internet people tend to overestimate the value of their own opinions and those of their peers and forget that scholarly criticism has a place and a purpose.
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Post by bob on Mar 13, 2013 1:18:56 GMT -5
The Lord of the Rings movies were dull and uninteresting. I would actually say they were "boring" but then someone would comment about how I don't understand movies or something. Well guess what? They were slow and plodding and none of the characters besides Sam were interesting. They all existed to say expository dialogue and do a bunch of battle fights that I couldn't care less about because it never ever felt like there was something at loss...only with Sam and Frodo. Nothing about these movies made me appreciate the art of filmmaking, in fact I think it was a step in the wrong direction. ![](http://gifs.gifbin.com/1233928590_citizen%20kane%20clapping.gif) I was going to say that I still haven't finished watching them in one sitting because they are incredibly dull despite multiple attempts to but now.... I hate Magnolia. It's one of the worst movies I've ever seen.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Mar 13, 2013 1:30:36 GMT -5
Oh and:
- All jokes aside, Titanic's a damn good movie. I loved LA Confidential, but that was equally as deserving of Best Picture.
- Team America's soundtrack was 10X better than the film. Mostly because it was actually funny.
- Space Jam, for all its crass commercialism, was a way better use of the Looney Tunes characters than the stupid "re-release the shorts around a flimsy ass story with inferior animation" trend WB used for a while. Plus it gave us Lola Bunny, which led to the even better Kristen Wiig version, so i can't hate it.
- I don't give a crap about Tom Cruise being a weirdo or a closet case or whatever, the dude's got talent.
- Kristen Stewart is a perfectly solid actress in most of her non-Bella ventures.
I'll take the gun-happy Baz Luhrmann Romeo + Juliet over Franco Zefferelli's any day.
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Post by celticjobber on Mar 13, 2013 1:36:17 GMT -5
Most highly-rated movies (especially Oscar winners) are usually boring or just plain suck.
Alot of low-rated movies are great.
Dark Knight Rises is one of my favorite super hero films of all time.
The Iron Man and Avengers movies were boring and sucked.
Aside from the Spiderman movies, Daredevil, and the 2004 Punisher -- I haven't liked any of the Marvel-based superhero movies.
Not all WWE films suck.
Adam Sandler is funny, and I like most of his movies aside from Little Nicky and Don't Mess With The Zohan.
Will Ferrell sucks in comedies, but is great in dramatic films like "Everything Must Go".
"The Royal Tennenbaums" is the worst movie of all time.
I put Wes Anderson in the same category as Uwe Bowell, both make terrible unwatchable movies. But unlike Wes, Uwe's films aren't pretentious and boring most of the time.
I hate the trend of raunchy R-rated comedies, which seem more concerned with shock value than telling a good story.
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Post by cahuette on Mar 13, 2013 1:38:20 GMT -5
The cabin in the woods, I've mostly seen good reviews for it, I've seen a lot of people putting it in their "top 10 of the best movies of 2012", so I decided to check it out and... What the heck? This was just terrible, I have no idea what's the appeal, it's just "some horror flick", and apparently that's the part I'm supposed to like, it's mediocre but it's aware of it, so it's supposed to be good? At least it had the Thor motorcycle scene.
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Mar 13, 2013 1:46:57 GMT -5
"The Blair Witch Project" was brilliant. It took all the negatives of working on a small budget movie and turned them into positives. People who complain about the acting being over-the-top and hammed up have never seen people who were trapped in a tent with a bear rummaging around in their camp. People who complain about the ending not making sense don't remember that the characters never survived to find out what was happening (apparently).
And I will stand by my belief that all the people who say that they knew it was fake when they saw it are people who actually bought into the premise when it came out. The louder they cry, the more I believe that they felt embarrassed when they found out the truth.
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Post by mizerable on Mar 13, 2013 2:12:55 GMT -5
- The best Christopher Nolan film is The Prestige, no questions asked. Agreed. Jennifer Lawrence isn't anything special to acting. There's not a single thing that makes her stand out amongst 80% of most actresses. Al Pacino hasn't had a memorable role since Scent of a Woman. And he's been on cruise control since the early 80's (ironically Cruising). His best movie is something he'll hardly be remembered for; Scarecrow. Malcolm McDowell needs to stop making movies altogether since he obviously can't say no to any role. The last movie he was a great leading man was in Time After Time. And that was almost 35 years ago. Marlon Brando wasn't the end all to acting. Montgomery Clift was every bit his superior, go watch The Young Lions if you don't believe me and then tell me who did a better job; Brando or Clift. Equilibrium was better than The Matrix. Spartacus was a solid flick even if Kubrick wasn't satisfied with it, and it had glaring historical errors. Despite hating on many Best Picture winners, the worst one still by far is Cavalcade. The margin for awfulness probably peaks at least 10 points above any other movie that has ever won.
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Mar 13, 2013 2:34:33 GMT -5
- Batman returns is really just a Tim Burton film that happens to has Batman in it.
- Kevin smith has turned into a whinny egoistic dick who hasn't made a decent films in 14 years.
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Mar 13, 2013 2:39:25 GMT -5
I kind of like The Super Mario Brothers movie. ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png)
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Post by Glitch on Mar 13, 2013 3:52:28 GMT -5
Super 8 was a piece of crap. It was trying to capture the magic of past films but in a very blatant and unoriginal way. All the "emotional moments" were very hammy and got on my nerves.
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Mar 13, 2013 3:56:28 GMT -5
*Me and You and Everyone We Know is the most overrated film of the 2000s. Forced quirkiness as a vessel for ugly people romantic fiction is the only thing less appealing than a snuff film to me. Does anyone expect the critics actually like that film?
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Mar 13, 2013 4:31:51 GMT -5
The cabin in the woods, I've mostly seen good reviews for it, I've seen a lot of people putting it in their "top 10 of the best movies of 2012", so I decided to check it out and... What the heck? This was just terrible, I have no idea what's the appeal, it's just "some horror flick", and apparently that's the part I'm supposed to like, it's mediocre but it's aware of it, so it's supposed to be good? At least it had the Thor motorcycle scene. I disagree completely. I felt the central story was very good on its own, and all of the more meta stuff was actually pretty clever. I thought it managed to make old tropes feel fresh again. I liked the fact that it was a self-aware movie that was actually self-aware and subtle in its references, and did more than the easy "hey look! That sure did happen in other movies, didn't it? That's the joke!" stuff that most movies that try to do the same fall for. This one actually told a story, and a good one at that, instead of just making a list of clichés and awkwardly shoving them into the movie (which is quite ironic since one scene involves a literal list of clichés ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) ). - I don't give a crap about Tom Cruise being a weirdo or a closet case or whatever, the dude's got talent. Agreed, and as weird as he genuinely is, I honestly think the media blow it out of proportions. - I don't mind the Star Wars prequels (well, Episode I & II at least, I haven't seen III). Yeah, they don't hold a candle to the original trilogy, but they really don't deserve the bile they get, they're still fun to watch. Also, the original trilogy had its fair share of silly if not downright dumb moments as well. - Shia LaBoeuf is actually pretty good in my opinion. I think he's one of those actors who are labelled as bad not because of their actual skills, but because of the films they appear in. - the Saw franchise is not nearly as bad as people make it out to be, and that's coming from a guy who thinks only three of them were genuinely good (I, II and IV), with the others being okay but not that interesting (III & V) or legit terrible (VI & VII). What particularly annoys me is that many people who criticize these movies obviously haven't seen them, from people not even trying to pretend they did and just saying they're terrible because they're gory and we can't have that in a horror movie, people focusing on one or two specific scenes (and frequently depicting them inaccurately) or mentioning plot holes that aren't plot holes at all. I'm not saying there aren't people who dislike them for legitimate reasons, but I can't help but feel they are often criticized by people who hope to sound smart and sophisticated but just come off as elitist snobs. - Hellraiser: Revelations really isn't that bad. Granted it's not good (Doug Bradley put it best when he said it felt just kind of unfinished), but it's a hell of a lot better than most of the franchise. Unlike Hellseeker, Deader and Hellworld, it actually feels like a Hellraiser film and has themes present in the first two film, and it's not quite as boring as Hell on Earth and Bloodlines. - I really liked Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland. I honestly don't see what people disliked about this film so much, and I'm especially confused when some people criticize it for taking liberties with the original story when the original was so... disparate to begin with (also many of the same people praise American McGee for doing the same). - I don't care how cheap, poorly made, poorly acted, poorly written, poorly produced some films that frequently make "Top X worst films ever" lists like Birdemic, The Room or Plan 9 can be, Funny Games is the very worst movie of all times, and I've seen all of the Violent S*** movies. At least these cheap movies tried to entertain their audience instead of insulting them and deliberately wasting their time in the most pedantic, pretentious and self-centred manner possible. In fact, I'd say it's the anti- Cabin in the Woods because while that movie analyzed horror movies in a clever and interesting way while also providing a good story made by people who know what they're talking about, Funny Games is a judgmental trainwreck made by a grumpy old man who has no clue in his mind what he's talking about and somehow acts like a pre-teen throwing a tantrum because someone, somewhere dared like something he didn't and whose "analysis" of the horror genre feels like a YouTube comment: "if u liek it ur worse than baby kilerz! thumbz up if u agre!".
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