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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Mar 13, 2013 11:13:34 GMT -5
Battle Royale was a bit silly and if it was made in America it would be nowhere near as popular. I enjoyed it... but the book was so much better and silly moment like the girl deciding to go for a nice little jog in the middle of the murder game just seemed daft.
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Post by darthalexander on Mar 13, 2013 11:18:06 GMT -5
One of the most disappointing sequels I ever saw was Army Of Darkness.
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Post by Juice on Mar 13, 2013 11:20:57 GMT -5
The first Godzilla movie isn't some amazing take on the dangers of nuclear fallout. It was a generic 50's monster movie and a rip off of other cinema with the same notions.
All of the sequels that eventually followed, are silly, campy, and ridiculous.
I am not saying these are horrible movies, but they aren't high end cinema that people make them out to be...
AND here's the clincher, the 99 Godzilla was the most entertaining of them all. Unlike the the previous movies this one felt grounded in reality while still being over the top.
Jaws 2-Revenge are all great movies and are very underrated.
Daniel Craig is the best Bond.
There's no logical reason a zombie can't run, because they aren't real and therefore not grounded into reality. Rules of any kind really shouldn't apply.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Mar 13, 2013 11:27:38 GMT -5
/\I'm well aware of that. it was just such a bizarre, embarrassing moment that I don't think he's ever going to live it down. That, unfortunately, is true. Partly for the reason I mentioned. It's not like I have any fondness for the guy (if anything, he comes off as a self-pitying douche who decided that if he can't make himself happy, he can at least make everyone else depressed), but I always hate it when people judge others for things they did not do. I guess it's what happens when such a sad person makes an attempt at comedy. -say what you will about Nic Cage's recent filmography, the guy is always entertaining. Amen to that, though recently I've been under the impression that people are starting to realize this and criticize his movies rather than him. * I completely LOVED Zardoz for it's sheer absurdity. I can't bring myself to say Zardoz is bad, even so-bad-it's-good. It has some legit great concepts, and while its story is incomprehensible and the costumes are ridiculous, I still find it genuinely enjoyable, in the same way that I find David Firth's cartoons enjoyable. Also I'm pretty sure the attires are intentionally ridiculous to show that it's the far future after a nuclear apocalypse and society's norms have changed completely, much like how Kubrick gave A Clockwork Orange an absolutely grotesque aesthetic to show the decadence of that future society. Other unpopular opinions of mine: - Batman Begins was just okay. The story was needlessly convoluted (so was The Dark Knight's, but it worked because it's exactly the kind of plot you'd expect The Joker to come up with), it gave us the weakest version of Scarecrow yet (why was he even there?), instead putting the focus on Ra's Al Ghul, who was always in my opinion one of the least interesting Batman villains. - Postal was surprisingly entertaining. The first 15 minutes or so are s*** (literally in the case of some of the jokes), but I laughed far more than I expected at the rest. And I mean, I laughed at the moments that were supposed to be funny (though admittedly, I also laughed at things that weren't supposed to be laughed at). Dave Foley is especially enjoyable. Uwe Boll's one good film, I suppose. - Silent Hill was pretty good too. I loved how the visuals really made you feel like you were inside the town, the story was solid and I did not mind the departures from the games. - And while I'm on the topic of movie adaptations of video games, Doom was decent. Not great, but fun enough and better than most action films released at the time. It also actually looks like the game (Well, like Doom 3 anyway), which puts it above most adaptations. - The Razzie Awards have never been about anything other than publicity, and they have contributed just as much as the Oscars in keeping small and independent studios down, if not more, by keeping by budget works in the spotlight (it say a lot that their nominations frequently overlap with the Oscars'). They also have an absolutely ridiculous tendency to go for the easiest, most well-known target and wail on it, regardless of whether or not it's deserved.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Mar 13, 2013 11:51:30 GMT -5
Battle Royale was a bit silly and if it was made in America it would be nowhere near as popular. I enjoyed it... but the book was so much better and silly moment like the girl deciding to go for a nice little jog in the middle of the murder game just seemed daft. on that note, while I enjoyed the film, the Manga was superior in pretty much every way. the only thing the movie did better was that Takeshi Kitano was incredible as the bitter old program director, whereas in the book the director was a Mark Millar-esque cliche "poop eating villain" type.
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Post by Red Impact on Mar 13, 2013 11:51:38 GMT -5
I'll be honest, I really wouldn't see the point in the Razzie Awards going after small and independent studios down.
But the Razzies are focused solely and entirely on the crap that gets pushed out. When something has a budget and studio backing and studio resources behind it, it's far more worthy of the criticism than something that is done on a shoestring budget by non-union actors with second-hand equipment. Yeah, independent movies can be awful, but it'd sort of be like blaming a grade-schooler for not being as good at sports as a pro athlete to target them and point out how awful their work is.
And given that the Razzies are a parody of the Oscars, if the Oscars are going to focus on big budget movies, the Razzies really have no reason to not focus on indie movies.
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Post by dav on Mar 13, 2013 12:07:55 GMT -5
Star Wars has always been a pile of less-than-average quality films with bad stories with gaping plot holes, at best.
Blues Brothers 2000 is a perfectly fine sequel and was really enjoyable.
Dark Knight Rises is the best superhero film.
Iron Man was... OK. It really suffered from a lack of a decent villain.
The Truman Show is an underrated classic.
Seven Samurai was better in every way to the Magnificent Seven.
Danny De Vito is a damn fine actor.
Wreck-It-Ralph is among Disney's best films.
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Post by The OP on Mar 13, 2013 13:29:38 GMT -5
Danny De Vito is a damn fine actor. Wait, people don't like Danny DeVito? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png)
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Post by dav on Mar 13, 2013 14:04:16 GMT -5
Danny De Vito is a damn fine actor. Wait, people don't like Danny DeVito? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) I've never heard people praise him all that much and he tends to get a fair bit of flack for Batman Returns. A bit unfairly since he was the best thing in that film.
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Mar 13, 2013 14:24:09 GMT -5
Does anyone expect the critics actually like that film? I thought it was great. ![:-/](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/undecided.png) But I can definitely see the criticism having merit, it's a film that could come across like Dolph Ziggler, mediocrity with the pretense of being exceptional. Well I can also see why some people liked it but my problem with the film was that instead of coming across as quirky it was just plain distributing.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Mar 13, 2013 15:48:45 GMT -5
on that note, while I enjoyed the film, the Manga was superior in pretty much every way. the only thing the movie did better was that Takeshi Kitano was incredible as the bitter old program director, whereas in the book the director was a Mark Millar-esque cliche "poop eating villain" type. Yup, the programme director was superb! Much better than the book version. He and Mitsuko were the highlights of the film for me. Although, the movie version of Kiriyama was disappointing turning him into a generic silent monster heel rather than the emotionless yet still very interesting villain he is in the book. I'm gonna have to give the manga a read, see how it holds up the novel (Which is in my top 10 favourite books list).
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Post by The Ichi on Mar 13, 2013 16:15:12 GMT -5
Bar a few exceptions, slasher movies are ridiciously boring.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Mar 13, 2013 20:00:34 GMT -5
Scott Pilgrim vs. the World is the single worst movie I have ever, and likely WILL, ever see in my entire life. I am not really interested in Man of Steel. I would have prefered Brandon Routh to return to the role. Superman Returns had it's problems, but he wasn't one of them. The fact that the ORIGINAL Star Wars Trilogy will probably never get a decent release on any home video format is a travesty. Tim Burton has been coasting on nothing but his name for years now. The last movie he made that wasn't terrible was Big Fish...........the last movie he made without Depp....coincidence? ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) The "Nuke the Fridge" scene in Indy IV isn't any more insanely unrealistic than anything else in the Indy franchise. A certain site's Top 250 list is so mind-boggingly asinine that it gives me a migraine just reading it. There's NO need for The Hobbit to be split into three films other than greed. I could hapilly live the rest of my life never seeing a Batman movie ever get made again.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Mar 13, 2013 20:03:48 GMT -5
/\I'm not sure if that Hobbit opinion is an unpopular opinion.
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Post by The OP on Mar 13, 2013 20:13:45 GMT -5
Wait, people don't like Danny DeVito? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) I've never heard people praise him all that much and he tends to get a fair bit of flack for Batman Returns. A bit unfairly since he was the best thing in that film. Well, I think he's an excellent actor and knocked it out of the park as Penguin. "It could be worse. My nose could be gushing blood!" I think Batman Returns was a great film from top to bottom though. Christopher Walken's speech to Gotham is one of the funniest deadpan monologues I've ever seen in a movie. "Santa Claus? 'Fraid not..."
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2013 20:13:53 GMT -5
The "Nuke the Fridge" scene in Indy IV isn't any more insanely unrealistic than anything else in the Indy franchise. This so damn much. There were many problems with Kingdom Of The Crystal Skulls but the outrage over that scene never made sense to me. Especially when there had been people who had their faces melted off, hearts being ripped out, using an lifeboat to survive falling from a plane, etc. etc.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Mar 13, 2013 22:57:16 GMT -5
The Truman Show is an underrated classic. Danny De Vito is a damn fine actor. Wreck-It-Ralph is among Disney's best films. Honestly, I don't think those opinions are that unpopular. I'm sure you could find countless people that would agree. I know I do.
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Post by mizerable on Mar 13, 2013 23:12:50 GMT -5
Bar a few exceptions, slasher movies are ridiciously boring. Agreed. Granted, I've only watched like 6 of his movies, but Ingmar Bergman movies just don't wow me. Every film class you'll ever take will talk about him like he's the end all. Well, he's not. And while it's great that he influenced so many film makers, I find a lot of his stuff to be too primitive for me, which sucks since I tried so hard to like his stuff. The only movie that didn't test my narcolepsy was Wild Strawberries. Regarding "nuking of the fridge", it didn't bother me. To me, I felt as long as the character had a motivation to do something, I could allow for the physics of reality to be blurred, as long as the character doesn't come off as looking stupid. Yes...let me repeat that. The very fabric of reality can be warped moreso than a Ren and Stimpy cartoon, as long as the character in which this universe is created for, doesn't make human error. That's the exact opposite of the real world, and that's why I like movies. Indiana Jones is indeed filled with silly stuff, however KOTCS goes overboard with the BS. Indiana Jones CAN be grounded into reality as long as you believe what the characters are doing. A movie about a talking dog who does karate can be grounded into reality AS LONG AS YOU BELIEVE IN THE CHARACTERS. Where Crystal Skulls goes wrong (and believe me, it does plenty of times) is when the characters do things that escape the realms of sanity. Whether it's having a sword fight on top of a moving truck, swinging on vines as a means of catching up to a speeding truck, or driving a speeding truck off the side of a mountain because you know there's a tree there that will catch you and launch you back on the road without hurting any of the senior citizens on board. By comparison, the first scene only has Indy climbing in a refrigerator as a last resort. Big difference there. And the original trilogy doesn't have a single scene where you have to question the motive of the characters. The whole second half of Crystal Skulls you have to stop and think about every last thing each character does. That's why it's a piece of shit movie.
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Mar 13, 2013 23:17:23 GMT -5
- Watchmen was the best superhero movie ever made and the ending was better than the book.
- Daredevil Director's cut is an awesome movie.
- Batman and Robin is not THAT bad.
- Michael Bay was the perfect choice for Transformers
- Postal captured the tone of the game perfectly
- Resident Evil films are very good and have a good story arch.
- Jersey Girl is Kevin Smith's best movie.
- Everyone in View Askew has grown into very talented people, especially Jason Mewes, whose story is incredible. Kevin Smith becoming a real life stoner is just sad and has hurt him.
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Post by ERON on Mar 14, 2013 0:49:14 GMT -5
Spider-Man 3 was just as good as the first 2. People who complained about it being too goofy just don't get Spider-Man. Spider-Man has always had a goofy side to his stories; that's one of the things that sets him apart from other superheroes.
I hated the Schumaker Batman films when they were new, but the years have been kind to them. The Nolan Batman films are good, but not as great as people make them out to be.
DC's direct-to-DVD animated films > most live action superhero films
The Ang Lee Hulk movie and the Ben Affleck Daredevil movie were both just a few tweaks away from being brilliant.
I don't get people who don't like "old" movies. If you've never seen a movie before, it's new to you. Color or no color, talking or no talking, dubbed or subtitled - a good film is a good film.
classically-trained actors > method actors
The horror genre has been steadily declining in quality since the '70s.
The "zombies" in modern zombie movies aren't really zombies at all. Real zombies are controlled by a witch doctor and walk around in a trance-like state.
The Twilight movies are hilarious.
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