vanboxmeer
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Post by vanboxmeer on Mar 19, 2013 9:10:51 GMT -5
The truth of the matter is if Del Rio wasn't Mexican, he'd have been dumped in the prelims and labelled by the company as "a guy who can't get over" years ago. Similar to other projects in Chris Masters and Drew McIntyre. Instead he's essentially been saved by his nationality and is being propped up as a top babyface when the audience has never truly taken to him anywhere near the main event level.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2013 9:17:12 GMT -5
Is Santino still around? Zeb and Swag should f*** with him for his terrible English, maybe reveal he never became a citizen and deport him themselves. SOMETHING for heat.
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Post by zeez on Mar 19, 2013 9:32:00 GMT -5
Swagger will get the crowd hating him again when he and Zeb unveil their catapult to send illegals back to Mexico.
Nah, that won't work. Catapults are awesome.
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Post by keepinitreal365 on Mar 19, 2013 9:32:32 GMT -5
Ok first time poster but I've scanned through these forums for a few weeks. I'm just gonna jump right in. I rewatched the match and i THINK the crowd was chanting u.s.a at del rio. When swagger attacked del rio and rio made his comeback they were cheering del rio. When he gave zeb the death stare there was a si chant. Then the usa chant when swagger through del rio over the announce table. After swagger attacked ricardo there wasn't a u.s.a chant they were BOOING him. It's confusing. Leave it to wwe to have Americans chant u.s.a to a Mexican. Wwe is pushing del rio as a hero period so that's what I'm guessing. When people Chant we the people THEN wwe should worry. Also the feud SERIOUSLY picked up last night. I'm back on board with it.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Mar 19, 2013 10:03:10 GMT -5
A lisp isn't hard to fix. Given the amount of money, airtime they're throwing at him, how much more of an expense can speech therapy be? I demand that WWE do an angle that's a re-enactment of The King's Speech, but with Jack Swagger and William Regal in the Geoffrey Rush role.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Mar 19, 2013 10:06:08 GMT -5
I'm not shocked.
I want Swagger to win. Not because I agree with what he's saying, but because I find ADR to be so utterly annoying, boring and unlikeable. I want to see him get his ass kicked.
WWE need to make Swagger and Zeb more unlikeable whilst actually making ADR more likeable... rather than a guy who dresses up and does lame comedy skits and shows no personality or charisma at all. He's boring. I don't like boring guys on my TV hence why I want to see him lose.
Plus ADR's counter arguments are essentially "America was founded by immigrants" which is a lame, boring, overused argument which makes ADR sound like a tool.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Mar 19, 2013 10:30:21 GMT -5
A lisp isn't hard to fix. Given the amount of money, airtime they're throwing at him, how much more of an expense can speech therapy be? Maybe it's harder to fix than we think. I assume if it were so easy, Dusty would've gotten therapy for his. Or Cody's, for that matter. Then again, Swagger's lisp is a lot more pronounced than Cody's is.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Mar 19, 2013 14:07:22 GMT -5
Anybody who been paying attention to the United States social climate for the past 10 years knew this was eventually going go the path WWE didn't want it to. I'm just so glad it didn't happen in the South first.
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Post by Crimson on Mar 19, 2013 15:23:38 GMT -5
Crowd was just bored IMO. Like when rhey chanted You can't wrestle towards Fandango. The difference though is Del Rio is suppose to be one of the top guys and this is a world title match for Wrestlemania. It's even more alarming if people are getting bored with you going into this.
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Post by percymania on Mar 19, 2013 20:08:05 GMT -5
USA! USA! USA!!!
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Post by johnnytightlips on Mar 19, 2013 20:39:11 GMT -5
Didn't one of the commentators mentioned that Alberto was born in Mexico but made in America, not realizing that he has a "Hecho en Mexico" tattoo on the back of one of his shoulders?
I'm leaning towards that the Pittsburgh crowd was bored. I remember the Nashville crowd also not exhibiting any reaction some RAWs back.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Mar 19, 2013 20:42:38 GMT -5
Alberto Del Rio is horribly booked. Konnan brought this up on MLW radio. They have a bunch of white guys writing stuff directed at a hispanic audience. So what you get are those parody skits from Alberto and Ricardo, and they fail miserably. They can't write for Alberto.
I didn't see Raw, but apparently, Swagger started getting heat when he attacked Ricardo, meaning people seem to like him more then Del Rio. Eddie Guerrero was a guy who got over by himself (and if I remember correctly, Paul Heyman was the head guy when Eddie hit his biggest heights, so my guess is he was able to let Eddie be Eddie).
Whether people believe what Swagger says or not, maybe it's simply what happens when you don't know how to write for certain people.
Also, apparently Uncle Zebekiah is writing his own stuff, and being the former booker and great promo that he is, he completely destroys Del Rio on the mic, so that doesn't help matters.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2013 20:53:19 GMT -5
I think they just got bored and tried to be smarks.
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Post by The Tee Why on Mar 19, 2013 21:10:48 GMT -5
I just plain dont get why people are supposed to boo swagger and zeb, theyre completely right. Are people supposed to be cool with illegal immigrants in their country? I know I sure as **** wouldnt.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Mar 19, 2013 21:22:59 GMT -5
I just plain dont get why people are supposed to boo swagger and zeb, theyre completely right. Are people supposed to be cool with illegal immigrants in their country? I know I sure as **** wouldnt. "Heeeere we go again..."
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Post by trollrogue on Mar 19, 2013 23:45:20 GMT -5
Yeah... I can't decide if this is a joke thread or not... if this was a serious attempt to say that the crowd hates/doesn't care about ADR because of one live crowd's brief chanting... really? Really? Re-heally??? LOL
I mean, I also heard an audible "Let's Go Sandow" chant during his match with R-Truth. So I guess that means Sandow has failed as a heel since he's getting cheered by ONE smark group in ONE crowd, using this logic.
I guess Cody Rhodes fails as a heel since he was apparently the target of the USA chants (which IMO wouldn't necessarily be the WWE Universe's fault since the Kaitlyn stuff he does is very face-like) by again ONE smark group in ONE live crowd. Let's also ignore the fact that Cody is the son of the AMERICAN DREAM, so yeah him getting USA chants when he's putting up perhaps his most "game" match of his career against a World Champion in a bizarro smarktown is totally mindblowing.
So I guess John Cena is an epic failure, since he never got even one majority face pop all night long, nor does he in most arenas he wrestles in. Do you get my point here? Just because a live crowd doesn't react 100% the way you expect them to, shouldn't influence weeks and weeks of built-up storyline progress. If you missed the past NXT episode, you would've been treated to Alberto Del Rio (NOT Ricardo Roderiguez) bringing the Full Sail house down with thunderous face pops, I believe he actually out-popped Paige and Big E.
He's over as a top face. People should learn to deal with it and stop trying to pretend like he's not just because they dislike his booking protection. He's nowhere near as bad as forced Sheamus was, IMO.
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Post by Sc on Mar 20, 2013 1:51:23 GMT -5
Is Santino still around? Zeb and Swag should f*** with him for his terrible English, maybe reveal he never became a citizen and deport him themselves. SOMETHING for heat. Maybe they can parody that episode of The Simpsons where Apu is revealed to be an illegal immigrant with the 3 Man Band. Then, after a series of segments resulting in Jinder Mahal gaining citizenship, they cut to a shot of Drew McIntyre on a boat headed back to Scotland.
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Post by The Man They Call Asher on Mar 20, 2013 3:09:42 GMT -5
Is Santino still around? Zeb and Swag should f*** with him for his terrible English, maybe reveal he never became a citizen and deport him themselves. SOMETHING for heat. Maybe they can parody that episode of The Simpsons where Apu is revealed to be an illegal immigrant with the 3 Man Band. Then, after a series of segments resulting in Jinder Mahal gaining citizenship, they cut to a shot of Drew McIntyre on a boat headed back to Scotland. I'm throwing money at my computer but nothing's happening!
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Mar 20, 2013 9:51:25 GMT -5
There's always room for a superfluous USA chant.
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Post by keepinitreal365 on Mar 20, 2013 12:21:51 GMT -5
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