So, that happened (aka, crowds siding with Swag)

[Crimson]

The more unpleasant side of the Del Rio/Swagger feud has finally emerged. Eventually there was going to be a crowd that was going to "side" with Swagger and Zeb. I guess my question is what if it becomes a reoccurring thing?

[The Doctor]

They need to make Swagger and Zeb more hateful. They are being too subtle with it.

What they are saying is not an especially rare viewpoint. The anti illegal immigration thing isn't going to get enough heat. They need to be more on the nose about it. More racist and generally bigoted.

Del Rio isn't loved enough for people to side with him just because he's Del Rio.

[Sparkybob]

Mar 18, 2013 20:50:20 GMT -5 The Doctor said:

They need to make Swagger and Zeb more hateful. They are being too subtle with it.

What they are saying is not an especially rare viewpoint. The anti illegal immigration thing isn't going to get enough heat. They need to be more on the nose about it. More racist and generally bigoted.

Del Rio isn't loved enough for people to side with him just because he's Del Rio.

Yea if you are not deeply invested in politics, Zeb and Swagger aren't saying anything to heelish. Their basic point is no illegal should come here, which most people agree with.

Zeb and Swagger need to try to deport Ricardo or something of that extent to get real heat.

[Unaffiliated]

Thought it would have happened sooner.

[alliedbiscuit]

Well, that crowd was already chanting USA during the match, while he was fighting Cody. Maybe Pittsburgh just really hates Del Rio?

[Crimson]

Mar 18, 2013 20:58:07 GMT -5 Sparkybob said:

Mar 18, 2013 20:50:20 GMT -5 The Doctor said:

They need to make Swagger and Zeb more hateful. They are being too subtle with it.

What they are saying is not an especially rare viewpoint. The anti illegal immigration thing isn't going to get enough heat. They need to be more on the nose about it. More racist and generally bigoted.

Del Rio isn't loved enough for people to side with him just because he's Del Rio.

Yea if you are not deeply invested in politics, Zeb and Swagger aren't saying anything to heelish. Their basic point is no illegal should come here, which most people agree with.

Zeb and Swagger need to try to deport Ricardo or something of that extent to get real heat.

Or pull a JBL and actively chase people back across the border.

[rnrk supports BLM]

Butbut-- it's pro wrestling! Aren't the xenophobic American guys supposed to be the good guys???

I mean, del Rio speaks a strange foreign language and everything!

[BiloxiParish]

One more win for the good guys!

[mrjl]

Mar 18, 2013 21:08:24 GMT -5 rnrk supports BLM said:

Butbut-- it's pro wrestling! Aren't the xenophobic American guys supposed to be the good guys???

I mean, del Rio speaks a strange foreign language and everything!

xenophobic is not the same as disliking people who bad mouth your country or your countrymen

[Mac]

Theres absolutely no reason to like Del Rio in this fued. He's killed both the WHC and WWE titles when he's had them. Fans are bored with him and dont want the Mexican Zombie on their TV. His attempts at humor are unfunny, his attempts at being tough arent beleivable. His attempts and being a sympathetic character fail to garner any emotion from the fans. He's a complete and total dud, always has been. He's never been over enough to be an IC champ let alone have 3 runs at the top of the card. They TRIED to make him a big deal by making him champion, it didnt work. They TRIED getting him over by turning him face.. didnt work.

He has nothing in the way of charisma, doesnt do anything to seperate himself from even the most mediocre of performer. The only interest the fans have in them is chanting along with "si" and Ricardos intro.

He's terrible and one of the reasons I cant sit through a whole show.

[mrjl]

Mar 18, 2013 21:19:23 GMT -5 Mac said:

Theres absolutely no reason to like Del Rio in this fued. He's killed both the WHC and WWE titles when he's had them. Fans are bored with him and dont want the Mexican Zombie on their TV. His attempts at humor are unfunny, his attempts at being tough arent beleivable. His attempts and being a sympathetic character fail to garner any emotion from the fans. He's a complete and total dud, always has been. He's never been over enough to be an IC champ let alone have 3 runs at the top of the card. They TRIED to make him a big deal by making him champion, it didnt work. They TRIED getting him over by turning him face.. didnt work.

He has nothing in the way of charisma, doesnt do anything to seperate himself from even the most mediocre of performer. The only interest the fans have in them is chanting along with "si" and Ricardos intro.

He's terrible and one of the reasons I cant sit through a whole show.

I think you are completely wrong about everything you're saying here.

[molson5]

Mar 18, 2013 21:19:23 GMT -5 Mac said:

Theres absolutely no reason to like Del Rio in this fued. He's killed both the WHC and WWE titles when he's had them. Fans are bored with him and dont want the Mexican Zombie on their TV. His attempts at humor are unfunny, his attempts at being tough arent beleivable. His attempts and being a sympathetic character fail to garner any emotion from the fans. He's a complete and total dud, always has been. He's never been over enough to be an IC champ let alone have 3 runs at the top of the card. They TRIED to make him a big deal by making him champion, it didnt work. They TRIED getting him over by turning him face.. didnt work.

He has nothing in the way of charisma, doesnt do anything to seperate himself from even the most mediocre of performer. The only interest the fans have in them is chanting along with "si" and Ricardos intro.

He's terrible and one of the reasons I cant sit through a whole show.

This guy doesn't care for Del Rio.

[Sam Punk]

Isn't Del Rio rich? I thought rich people were always heel. You had DiBiase and JBL and even now with the whole OWS thing.

[Ginger Beer Man]

The thing is... people agree with Zeb and Swagger. Besides, a rich mexican against a "pro" American? Shouldn't be surprising to hear people side with the heels in this one.

[KingPopper]

If Del Rio could hit random holiday characters with his car every week, I might start to like him... Till then... U-S-A!!! U-S-A!!!

[Lick Ness Monster]

Mar 18, 2013 21:28:37 GMT -5 Ginger Beer Man said:

The thing is... people agree with Zeb and Swagger. Besides, a rich mexican against a "pro" American? Shouldn't be surprising to hear people side with the heels in this one.

Yeah, I tend to agree. And I've been a Del Rio mark since day one.

[Deleted]

Mar 18, 2013 20:50:20 GMT -5 The Doctor said:

They need to make Swagger and Zeb more hateful. They are being too subtle with it.

What they are saying is not an especially rare viewpoint. The anti illegal immigration thing isn't going to get enough heat. They need to be more on the nose about it. More racist and generally bigoted.

Del Rio isn't loved enough for people to side with him just because he's Del Rio.

Didn't they basically say they're against all immigration though? I'm pretty sure they had a segment where they told Wade he was part of the problem or something.

[Ginger Beer Man]

Mar 18, 2013 21:33:25 GMT -5 Lick Ness Monster said:

Mar 18, 2013 21:28:37 GMT -5 Ginger Beer Man said:

The thing is... people agree with Zeb and Swagger. Besides, a rich mexican against a "pro" American? Shouldn't be surprising to hear people side with the heels in this one.

Yeah, I tend to agree. And I've been a Del Rio mark since day one.

Indeed. To some people it's just too easy to go against Del Rio here, hence the issue.

[Mac]

Mar 18, 2013 21:25:29 GMT -5 mrjl said:

Mar 18, 2013 21:19:23 GMT -5 Mac said:

Theres absolutely no reason to like Del Rio in this fued. He's killed both the WHC and WWE titles when he's had them. Fans are bored with him and dont want the Mexican Zombie on their TV. His attempts at humor are unfunny, his attempts at being tough arent beleivable. His attempts and being a sympathetic character fail to garner any emotion from the fans. He's a complete and total dud, always has been. He's never been over enough to be an IC champ let alone have 3 runs at the top of the card. They TRIED to make him a big deal by making him champion, it didnt work. They TRIED getting him over by turning him face.. didnt work.

He has nothing in the way of charisma, doesnt do anything to seperate himself from even the most mediocre of performer. The only interest the fans have in them is chanting along with "si" and Ricardos intro.

He's terrible and one of the reasons I cant sit through a whole show.

I think you are completely wrong about everything you're saying here.

wanna dispute any? or is yours just an opinion?

I watch match after match of Del Rio wrestling to a crowd that sounds like they'd rather be taking a nap. A hear nothing even remotely close to a pop for the guy doing ANYTHING other than chanting along with "si" his title reigns were failures, hes never drawn a dime.

Where am I wrong? Were you ROFLYAO at his depiction of Swagger and Zeb?

Are you also left in stitches when he bombs on the mic to almost a friggen black hole of a reaction during ALL his mic spots?

Did you enjoy one of his many 2 1/2 star matches ?

He'll be 36 soon, hasnt been over in his first 36 years won't be iun his next 36.

Is he doing anything special that 100% of the current roster wouldnt be capable of duplicating if they were given an equally surprising and unwarrented push time and again like Del Rio?

He's not. he's a JAG whos done damage to both titles simply by being in posession of them.

[mrjl]

Mar 18, 2013 21:40:31 GMT -5 Mac said:

Mar 18, 2013 21:25:29 GMT -5 mrjl said:

I think you are completely wrong about everything you're saying here.

wanna dispute any? or is yours just an opinion?

I watch match after match of Del Rio wrestling to a crowd that sounds like they'd rather be taking a nap. A hear nothing even remotely close to a pop for the guy doing ANYTHING other than chanting along with "si" his title reigns were failures, hes never drawn a dime.

Where am I wrong? Were you ROFLYAO at his depiction of Swagger and Zeb?

Are you also left in stitches when he bombs on the mic to almost a friggen black hole of a reaction during ALL his mic spots?

Did you enjoy one of his many 2 1/2 star matches ?

He'll be 36 soon, hasnt been over in his first 36 years won't be iun his next 36.

Is he doing anything special that 100% of the current roster wouldnt be capable of duplicating if they were given an equally surprising and unwarrented push time and again like Del Rio?

He's not. he's a JAG whos done damage to both titles simply by being in posession of them.

Mine is just an opinion, so is yours. You have absolutely no idea how many people in Mexico came to a card to see Dos Caras Jr. And I've enjoyed his matches as much as anyone's.