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Post by xCompackx on Mar 27, 2013 17:38:35 GMT -5
Actually, it sounds like someone who sees a co-worker as a political yes-man whose PR friendly soullessness is what gets him his pushes over actual talent. I think that's the crux of Punk's stance with Miz. Miz tells WWE what it wants to hear. Punk feels like he tells WWE what it should be hearing. Its honestly hard to tell with Miz sometimes because he strikes me as a someone who legitimately enjoys having guys like Rock around, even in the main event of something like Mania. Nothing wrong with that, either. Isn't Punk the one that was saying on Twitter how he came back too early from his knee injury? Especially with how he may be injured again, why would he want to be in the main event with the risk of seriously hurting himself? And yeah, I do kinda have to question the idea of someone criticizing WWE's two biggest matches of the card when they're also in a match with a parttimer.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2013 17:43:18 GMT -5
Miz is a brown-nosing frat boy, there's no doubt about that.
I'd be on Punk's side if not for the fact that he hates everything that doesn't coalesce with his world view. Complaining about everything doesn't make him sound right, it just makes him sound like a whiny baby.
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Post by CrazySting on Mar 27, 2013 17:44:04 GMT -5
Miz was, and always has been, a huge Rock mark.
Maybe Punk just can't understand the idea of someone being genuinely happy to learn from and be around around a legend, instead of viewing them as just another threat to your spot and financial earnings?
Hey, if I was a wrestler I'd love to see The Rock around. I guess it would be like if a small time actor got to do a movie with Pacino. Are they really going to sit around and whine about Pacino getting paid way more when he's not even in the movie much? Of course not. It's frigging Pacino. Just being around him is an honor. Not something to whine about.
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Post by Metalheadbanger Man on Mar 27, 2013 17:49:01 GMT -5
Miz was, and always has been, a huge Rock mark. Maybe Punk just can't understand the idea of someone being genuinely happy to learn from and be around around a legend, instead of viewing them as just another threat to your spot and financial earnings? Hey, if I was a wrestler I'd love to see The Rock around. I guess it would be like if a small time actor got to do a movie with Pacino. Are they really going to sit around and whine about Pacino getting paid way more when he's not even in the movie much? Of course not. It's frigging Pacino. Just being around him is an honor. Not something to whine about. Only if its 1970's Pacino.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Mar 27, 2013 17:52:32 GMT -5
He has every right to be upset. He's the top heel in WWE, and he's not in the main-event. If Rock hadn't come back, Punk would have main-evented WrestleMania both last year and this year. There is no doubt in my mind, and I'm sure Punk sees that, too. I'd be bitter as well. He's the biggest heel in the company and he can't get a WrestleMania main-event. It's a joke. Hogan didn't come back in 1999 and rob Rock of his main-event slot.
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Post by mjolnir on Mar 27, 2013 17:56:28 GMT -5
He has every right to be upset. He's the top heel in WWE, and he's not in the main-event. If Rock hadn't come back, Punk would have main-evented WrestleMania both last year and this year. There is no doubt in my mind, and I'm sure Punk sees that, too. I'd be bitter as well. He's the biggest heel in the company and he can't get a WrestleMania main-event. It's a joke. Hogan didn't come back in 1999 and rob Rock of his main-event slot. Hell, Hogan didn't take it from Triple H and Jericho even when he did come back a few years later. Albeit one could make the argument he maybe should have, everyone had the sense of mind to realize it would only hurt there then current name stars.
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Post by King Ghidorah on Mar 27, 2013 17:56:34 GMT -5
If Punk was big enough to be in the Main Event. He would be in the Main event.
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Post by xCompackx on Mar 27, 2013 18:01:09 GMT -5
If Punk was big enough to be in the Main Event. He would be in the Main event. Honestly, this. What could WWE really do with Punk if Rock weren't there? Punk vs Cena 50? They can't even get crowds to stop cheering for him. Being on the WrestleMania card itself should be enough.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Mar 27, 2013 18:04:20 GMT -5
Sun rises in the east, world spins clockwise, Punk bitches about something.
It's just nature.
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Post by Cronant on Mar 27, 2013 18:06:58 GMT -5
Actually, it sounds like someone who sees a co-worker as a political yes-man whose PR friendly soullessness is what gets him his pushes over actual talent. I think that's the crux of Punk's stance with Miz. Miz tells WWE what it wants to hear. Punk feels like he tells WWE what it should be hearing. Its honestly hard to tell with Miz sometimes because he strikes me as a someone who legitimately enjoys having guys like Rock around, even in the main event of something like Mania. The Miz has always been a huge Rock mark.
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Post by Sparkybob on Mar 27, 2013 18:08:24 GMT -5
It's interesting that an interview and topic talking about not expecting workrate from taker/punk lead to another Miz/Punk discussion
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Post by A damn road sign on Mar 27, 2013 18:08:34 GMT -5
If Punk was big enough to be in the Main Event. He would be in the Main event. One may even say he needs to take a shower, hit the weights and get a clue.
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Post by BorneAgain on Mar 27, 2013 18:09:55 GMT -5
It'd be funny if Punk really wasn't kidding and Taker/Punk at Mania was 18 Seconds; Part Deux.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2013 18:10:10 GMT -5
If Punk is obsessed with Miz, CrazySting is obsessed with Punk. It's both or neither.
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Post by BigWill on Mar 27, 2013 18:14:10 GMT -5
People will take anything Punk says and turn it around to make him look like a douche. What he was saying wasn't even about Rock or Miz. He just used them to explain why he's been pushing himself so hard lately, which in most instances, would be an admirable quality in a person.
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Post by Cronant on Mar 27, 2013 18:16:05 GMT -5
People will take anything Punk says and turn it around to make him look like a douche. What he was saying wasn't even about Rock or Miz. He just used them to explain why he's been pushing himself so hard lately, which in most instances, would be an admirable quality in a person. Its a clear shot at Miz for no real reason. I mean why else even mention him? Oh yeah, Punk is so awesome and speaks his mind and keeps it real while the Miz is a puppet. Yawn. Constantly patting yourself on the back for 'telling it like it is' or whatever gets annoying.
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Post by 543Y2J on Mar 27, 2013 18:17:24 GMT -5
People will take anything Punk says and turn it around to make him look like a douche. What he was saying wasn't even about Rock or Miz. He just used them to explain why he's been pushing himself so hard lately, which in most instances, would be an admirable quality in a person. This
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Mar 27, 2013 18:17:58 GMT -5
If Rock hadn't come back, Punk would have main-evented WrestleMania both last year and this year. If rock had not come back,HHH/Taker would have main evented last year. People will take anything Punk says and turn it around to make him look like a douche. It's not hard.
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Post by Bravo Echo November on Mar 27, 2013 18:22:35 GMT -5
This match could end up like the McMahon Street Fight at X-Seven: not a technical masterpiece, but very effective story-wise.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Mar 27, 2013 18:28:29 GMT -5
For the match quality alone? Yes, please
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