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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2013 13:37:37 GMT -5
It's been a long road to get to WrestleMania weekend but when was the last time you truly actually respected the belts in honor of the people that held them...Bret...Shawn...Others would kiss them as they won them...Now the biggest prizes are the biggest jokes...When and who was the last person that made you actually feel that fighting for it was the right cause?
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Post by Juice on Apr 6, 2013 13:43:32 GMT -5
Cm Punk, ignoring the Del Rio reign. And Edge.
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Post by crowwreak was WRONG on Apr 6, 2013 13:45:27 GMT -5
Before Captain "I'm getting paid too much to do cardio" won it
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2013 13:47:34 GMT -5
WWE Title - The Rock [Now] The man doesn't appear every week, the man only competes on PPV, the man has an aura of genuine greatness about him which makes the less frequent appearances feel more important than seeing a John Cena/CM Punk compete every week, twice on PPV weeks.
World Title - Alberto Del Rio [Now] This is entirely to do with my love of ADR. I've just never tired of the guy the way most people have on here in ring or out of it and so believe the title is with the right guy.
Tag Titles - Team Hell No [Now] Honestly, a team of two world/WWE title contenders who beat their opponents decisively. Maybe this is an easy choice given no other tag team looks threatening against them...and no, Ziggler/Big E don't count as a team to me yet given they haven't had one match. However the fact they look dominant and have had the titles for so long, whilst being on TV each week, has made me think they are representing the titles well.
US Title - no one in the WWE As much as I like Antonio the title hasn't mattered in the WWE at all. It's worthless. Not even Zack Ryder's big win over Ziggler made it matter. Hell, my love of Dolph Ziggler can't even make me name him here. It's a hindrance rather than a positive to hold the US Title in my eyes.
Intercontinental Title - Chris Jericho [2009] Specifically during his grand feud with Rey Mysterio a few years back. Jericho is not a main eventer to me any more as his willingness to lose to upcoming stars too regularly has made him just another body BUT back when Jericho was a legitimate World title contender his run with the IC title made it valuable.
Divas - nobody The title doesn't matter, I like Kaitlyn, but it's irrelevant, the division is not good enough to make the title holder look important.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2013 13:48:32 GMT -5
This morning, when I woke up. I eat, sleep, drink, and BREATHE.....THIS..BUSINESSS!!!!!! If you don't wake up and respect the title every morning, you're on the wrong internet.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Apr 6, 2013 13:52:39 GMT -5
Never. Because title belts are props.
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Post by Bo Rida on Apr 6, 2013 14:02:31 GMT -5
WWE - I still do to a degree, my respect can diminish from time to time (WM9, Vince, Sheamus before he was ready, Del Rio) but a good reign can always save it.
WHC - I had a healthy amount of respect for the big gold belt until the day Jack Swagger won in it, the end of the brand split killed any chance of it making a recovery.
Every other belt fluctuates depending on who is holding and competing for it.
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Post by nm on Apr 6, 2013 14:06:38 GMT -5
Punk's reign was awesome, but I didn't "respect" the title after the pointless Mysterio and Cena "interim" reigns while Punk was still champion. Then after Del Rio cashes in and Cena and him trade back meaningless reigns. Then when Punk becomes champion again he was relegated to the 10 pm hour and not main eventing PPVs
Maybe Sheamus' first reign? I loved it at the time but that was the first time they were like "f*** it, lets give the belt to someone we haven't really built up!"
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Post by CM Dazz on Apr 6, 2013 14:13:33 GMT -5
This is definitely a minority opinion, but:
All of them, all the time.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2013 14:19:36 GMT -5
Never stopped respecting them.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2013 14:24:51 GMT -5
Always. People forget how much it means to someone when they win the most important title(s) in the business.
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Post by Hit Girl on Apr 6, 2013 14:39:09 GMT -5
Never. Because title belts are props. The physical belt is a prop. Symbolically they are macguffins. The object which drives the storyline. If the object is treated with disdain, it will damage the story and characters. As far as last time I respected the titles are concerned WWE - 1998 IC - 1992 US - Never WHC - Never Tag Team = 2001 Divas = Never
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Apr 6, 2013 14:43:08 GMT -5
Never. Because title belts are props. The physical belt is a prop. Symbolically they are macguffins. The object which drives the storyline. If the object is treated with disdain, it will damage the story and characters. I get that and I agree. Maybe I'm just weird but I've never "respected" the belts. Sure, I've respected the person holding the belt and understand that the titles should be treated as important. But, I've never actually revered the titles themselves. I always see them as props to move a storyline forward or advance someone's character.
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Post by Mac on Apr 6, 2013 14:54:28 GMT -5
The Punk reign seemed important to a degree just because of its longevity. But title reigns by Miz and Del Rio gave me the impression they were just garbage. The MITB fluke title wins have really IMO killed the prestige of the titles by having a bunch of waste products hold them.
The world title is the defacto IC title now, if you look AT&T like that its still got some value.
The IC title hasn't meant anything since the creation of TWO world titles.
The US title hasn't meant anything since coming to the WWE.
Tag titles haven't meant Anyting since the Hardy/Dudley/E and C days
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Post by Unaffiliated on Apr 6, 2013 15:00:20 GMT -5
Wrestling is fake. I'm not going to give respect to titles that are contested in matches where the winner is predetermined.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2013 15:09:57 GMT -5
I asked this question as I watched my 7 year old nephew go nuts over a replica spinner belt that I got him yesterday for his birthday....Growing up the belt like the winged eagle was with me is a symbolic natural evolution of being the man...To be the man you have to beat the man right? I was just curious if guys like Bret, Shawn, Angle, Benoit, and other guys that cried legit tears holding those trophies still exist
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Post by Unaffiliated on Apr 6, 2013 15:22:31 GMT -5
If this is about how much being the champion means to the champion... I don't think it's really fair to assess them based on what is shown on TV. I'm sure being WWE Champion still means a lot to whoever wins it. It might be the case that they are told not to break out of character, so they hold back their emotions. For example, I'm pretty sure heels are told not to cry over their title victories. Even for some faces, like Ryback, I'm pretty sure if he shed tears if he won the WWE title, there will be people going "I can't take him seriously anymore"
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Post by cool guy on Apr 6, 2013 17:00:12 GMT -5
I mean obviously the belts are just props used to drive storylines but if you misuse the title long enough it starts to lose that ability to believably drive storylines and mean as much to these characters as they claim it does and that breaks the suspension of disbelief.
That said, I've never really thought the WWE title was in danger of losing any prestige, because for every bad reign you get some great ones to balance it out, and it's been almost uniformly treated as one of the most important parts of the WWE as a whole.
The World Title's been declining in importance since...around the time Edge retired, probably, and it completely lost its status as a real "world title" when the brand split hit. Despite that, as long as they're going to keep the split going it works just fine as a sort of new version of the IC title as it was in the 80s and 90s. While I'd greatly prefer Smackdown be its own show with its own roster I realize that's more a programming issue than an issue with the title itself.
The IC/US titles don't mean shit.
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Post by "American Cream" Dusty Loads on Apr 6, 2013 17:09:38 GMT -5
When Punk had it. I don't think Rock is bringing the title more "prestige" as much as he is keeping it warm for Cena. Say what you want about Punk not main eventing ppvs, he was still one of the focal points of the show. With Rock as champ, I keep forgetting there's a new belt. Hell, sometimes I forget Punk isn't champ.
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Post by The Trashman on Apr 6, 2013 17:20:23 GMT -5
I still do. Team Hell No has been good for the tag titles and the only truly irrelevant belt is the I.C.
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