mrjl
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Post by mrjl on May 12, 2013 13:13:02 GMT -5
He sucks as face. He used to be THE man, the guy who look legit crazy..now he's just Randy "Same Old" Orton. Give him a turn, a real deep backstagee promo with a guy like JR(those old couch promos) about what's going on inside his head and have him play the true sadistic ass kicker, just like was. he's been in WWE for over a decade and been a major player for most of that time. How much deeper in his head can we get?
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2013 13:19:05 GMT -5
They refuse to do anything with him (I suppose due to the wellness violations) so he's just...there. You can't really blame him for looking apathetic and going through the motions every week, what could he possibly make out of what he currently has? He has nothing to go off of. Don't you ever think it's a chicken or the egg thing though? Maybe his apathy is reflected in his booking, instead of the other way around. Ever since he came back from that suspension, and even for a bit before, he's seemed lethargic and uninterested to me. I disagree with the notion that "he's not being heavily featured right now so you can't blame him for phoning it in". Sure you can. He should make the most of the large amounts of TV time he gets, that other wrestlers would just love to have.
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Post by MichaelMartini on May 12, 2013 13:25:45 GMT -5
Randy Orton would be F'n HUGE for TNA. Have him come in as the Vice President of Aces and 8's. Bully Ray would have Randy Orton working under him. That would elevate Bully Ray to true Main Event status. TNA would immediately have 2 main eventers for the price of a very expensive 1. complete and total waste of Randy orton who is 100x more talented than Bubba Ray Dudley at everything. Except generating heat. Bubba's been one of, if not, the best heel of the last five years.
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Juice
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Post by Juice on May 12, 2013 14:07:26 GMT -5
complete and total waste of Randy orton who is 100x more talented than Bubba Ray Dudley at everything. Except generating heat. Bubba's been one of, if not, the best heel of the last five years. And Orton gets better responses than Bubba Ray ever has from the audience and he has never had to stoop so low as to calling people n words fags.
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Post by MichaelMartini on May 12, 2013 14:25:53 GMT -5
Except generating heat. Bubba's been one of, if not, the best heel of the last five years. And Orton gets better responses than Bubba Ray ever has from the audience and he has never had to stoop so low as to calling people n words fags. Thanks for proving my point. Sounds like Bubba's got you hot. You mad bro?
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Post by Juice on May 12, 2013 15:31:47 GMT -5
And Orton gets better responses than Bubba Ray ever has from the audience and he has never had to stoop so low as to calling people n words fags. Thanks for proving my point. Sounds like Bubba's got you hot. You mad bro? lol you sound like a 4chan troll. No BRO im not mad I don't even like Orton. I am not mad, hot, or offended that Bubba Ray does the cheapest heat to get a reaction. I'm uninterested because that's the only thing he's good at, that he has to reduce himself to that because otherwise he is not any good at his craft. It's boring really, and most of all uninspired.
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Post by MichaelMartini on May 12, 2013 17:40:56 GMT -5
I'm of a mind that there is no such thing as cheap heat in wrestling. Do we not like Foley because of his cheap pops? No, he's one of the most beloved superstars of all time. So we're supposed to not dislike Bubba because of cheap heat? I wish more wrestlers would take the old school, whatever it takes mentality when it comes to generating heat. but WWE's hands are tied because of the shareholders so they can't have characters offend anyone of a constantly expanding demo, even when they're heels. None of them get booed anymore. The last one was Vicky and that was only because she would screech at the crowd. Look at all the who's a heel, who's a face threads popping up.
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on May 12, 2013 17:52:44 GMT -5
Well if he does then its nice to see that the feeling is mutual as I'm bored shitless whenever he appears on WWE television.
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Post by Juice on May 12, 2013 18:15:56 GMT -5
I'm of a mind that there is no such thing as cheap heat in wrestling. Do we not like Foley because of his cheap pops? No, he's one of the most beloved superstars of all time. So we're supposed to not dislike Bubba because of cheap heat? I wish more wrestlers would take the old school, whatever it takes mentality when it comes to generating heat. but WWE's hands are tied because of the shareholders so they can't have characters offend anyone of a constantly expanding demo, even when they're heels. None of them get booed anymore. The last one was Vicky and that was only because she would screech at the crowd. Look at all the who's a heel, who's a face threads popping up. I dislike foley a lot, because of his antics in and out of the ring. His wierd obsession with porn stars and melina and many more things. So don't c.ump everyone in together for a cheap heat argument. If it gets a reaction fine, and by all means it is just silly pro wrestling. Though I am an intelligent man with higher preferences in entertainment. If the best you have is attacking minorities you see in the crowd than you're not very good at what you do, entertaining. I don't try to put to much stock into pro wrestling, it's silly to it's core, but he's just not good. Glad that 20 years into his career he fianlly has a singles run in a low rent company that virtually no one cares about. But as far as I am concerned I expect a little more, and it has nothing to do with being offended, I am the most offensive person on earth. It's just lazy. It's the wrestling equivilant of a fart joke in a film. Orton's current position is probably because of all of the reasons stated, I doubt it's just one. And yes he would do great for TNA, but talent-less hacks like Bully would have to get in the back of the line for him. Cause they are far from being on the same level.
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Post by RareTradU on May 12, 2013 19:43:06 GMT -5
I haven't been interested in Randy Orton in years now. Since before his Legacy days. I think Orton should make a jump to TNA for 2-3 years to to freshen up his character and his mindset as well. Let him go let loose for a few years and when the time is right make the jump back to WWE for a good final run for a year or two. He's young enough that he can still do it and retire early on top. If he keeps going the way he going now the fans aren't going to care either way about him, I know I already don't. Even if he was a heel right now with the direction WWE is going I don't know if Randy could pull off an effective heel in a kid-friendly way.
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Post by Juice on May 12, 2013 19:57:10 GMT -5
I quit enjoying Orton when they started the Viper stuff, and dropped the Legend Killer persona. Everything since then has bored me to death with the one exception of him kissing steph during that awful HHH feud.
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