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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2013 22:17:34 GMT -5
Great theme, but nothing else about them does much for me. Even Bray's supposed amazing promo skills are pretty lame, because with that type of character you say any cryptic bullshit that you can think of as long as it sounds cool no matter how little it has to do with anything.
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Post by Push R Truth on Sept 12, 2013 22:21:16 GMT -5
I think they are kinda good at just about everything ... except actually wrestling. It's not that they suck, just boring as hell.
Because the ringword is boring, everything else is souring over time for me.
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Post by Chip on Sept 12, 2013 22:22:01 GMT -5
I used to love it but the gimmick has failed and isn't getting over. Hm? How are they not getting over? They always get a reaction, people clap along to the theme song, people are receptive of Brays promos. They are more over then they really should be considering how badly they've been handled in terms of matches. Squashes into a Ring of Fire match then back to squashes is really pretty bad, hell being put in a feud with a solo Kane is real bad nowadays, no disrespect to Kane but outside of multi-man matches he's pretty dull. I think Zigglers match was the first semi-competitive match Bray at least was put into. Haven't really payed much attention to the other two.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2013 22:47:57 GMT -5
I'm actually still really enjoying them. No problems with Bray in the ring either.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Sept 12, 2013 23:05:04 GMT -5
Their matches are starting to become strictly formula:
"We're here.", then the cool entrance in the dark, then the squash, then they pose over the squashee (optional Wyatt promo here, too), then the abrupt jump cut into commercial.
Promos are still their strong suit, though.
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Post by The Man They Call Asher on Sept 12, 2013 23:25:17 GMT -5
I like what I've seen so far. I'll wait until I've seen them actually do something on Raw that has substance. It's hard to draw a conclusion based on nothing.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Sept 12, 2013 23:45:58 GMT -5
They're kinda being overshadowed by BryanMania, the Punk/Heyman war and Coprorate HHH and Orton, but it's still a fun gimmick IMO.
To keep the buzz around them going, I'd have the regime try to recruit them as hired goons to go after various faces, but of course they prove hard to control and just attack whoever they feel like.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2013 23:49:21 GMT -5
Love them and enjoying the hell out of them
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Sept 13, 2013 0:00:40 GMT -5
They need Kane to join them instead of feud with them when he comes back.
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Post by grunt on Sept 13, 2013 0:01:04 GMT -5
Cool entrance and theme, pretty boring everything else. That. I wasn't immediately sold on the gimmick based on the vignettes, but I enjoyed their first appearance, & I'm a fan of Brodie Lee, but... aside from that, they're aimless, and it seems that creative, as usual, didn't have anything planned for them after their debut. Either that or Vince is already bored with them. So meh.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Sept 13, 2013 0:03:50 GMT -5
The Wyatts are fine. I think whats killing them is WWE's need to make them a "big deal fairly quick". There are so many things going on overshadowing them, and they have nothing to do with because WWE would rather have them squash midcard faces instead of actually feuding with them.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Sept 13, 2013 0:18:11 GMT -5
I like them but they do need to do more heelish things and need a new, proper feud. Feud 'em with a face PTP. That would be fun.
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Post by The Man They Call Asher on Sept 13, 2013 0:21:00 GMT -5
Hell, feud them with The Miz. Isn't he the poster-child of what Bray said in the vignettes? "We live in a world where society has poisoned the souls of men."
Could even have Awesome Truth reunite to take on Harper and Rowan in a tag match. The idea needs work but I reckon it could be good.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2013 0:23:21 GMT -5
Yeah. They definitely need to be given some direction and other than the Inferno match, which can be a really limiting gimmick match, I'd say it's not a match I'm going to look at to judge Bray in-ring. Bray himself is fine in the ring for what he's had to do: squashes and the one match with Dolph Ziggler.
I think they'd be fine as a midcard/upper-midcard act, but since WWE tends to obliterate any semblance of midcard feuds, the only thing they've really got is somehow including them in the war with the Hunner Administration. I say just because their heels doesn't mean Bray and the Family shouldn't go after the Tag/IC/US titles.
I figured since they brought these guys up, they'd be under Hunner's yoke now in that they've really got a long-term plan in mind. There's still a few things they've got yet to do with these guys, maybe introduce an actual Sister Abigail, a feud for a title...
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Post by EyeofTyr on Sept 13, 2013 0:48:50 GMT -5
They have limited time, no real direction right now and they were brought in when there's another big heel trio essentially doing the same thing as them in terms of booking matches.
They're all at least competent in the ring, they're entertaining in every other facet to me, and Bray & Luke continue to stand out with the little touches they add to their characters.
But I think timing's played a part in them going through the motions right now. And, having Bray face a man that's usually dull these days is singles, Kane, in a match that's never good, an Inferno match, in a story that more or less was Bray getting squashed didn't do them favors.
I do like the idea though that somebody suggested, have them get involved in Bryanmania. Have HHH & Steph and Vince, or even just one of them, try to hire them as goons. Only for them to just attack whoever they like and try to use the higher-ups as their bullet proof shield of an excuse. Naturally eventually you have Vince & co. cut ties, citing they're too dangerous and wild, and you instantly make the Shield & the Wyatt Family obviously separate entities when so many people have been drawing comparisons between them.
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Post by fart on Sept 13, 2013 1:21:15 GMT -5
All things considered I was giving them a 4/10 before the debut. Between the electronic candle and the pitiful inferno match and what I've seen after, a strict, temples in fingertips zero.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Sept 13, 2013 1:51:41 GMT -5
I love the gimmick, but they need to ditch the "we're here" part of the intro. It only should have been used at the debut. Whole thing is too staged to carry weight beyond that. Just have the lights go out, the music start and Bray enter with the lantern.
Also, have them do more of the promos that got them noticed. Stuff like the shrimp-boat promo, or the monsters are real one.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Sept 13, 2013 2:05:08 GMT -5
I'm actually still really enjoying them. No problems with Bray in the ring either. Same. The backlash is baffling to me. Bray in the ring I find interesting. I love the Sister Abigail finisher so the dislike of that is shocking to me. I love basically everything about them. I've cooled on them slightly since the vingettes but... they're still awesome.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Sept 13, 2013 2:16:11 GMT -5
Here's a thought; What about pairing them with Zeb Coulter? Might get heat if he's calling these wackos real Americans. They could pass for militia types. Could be a catalyst to turn Cesaro face too.
Either way I'd like to see managers take on more clients. They finally have a healthy number of managers again but they only seem to handle one client at a time.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 13, 2013 2:27:12 GMT -5
They need to turn face and join Daniel Bryan. They are already anti-establishment/authority/everything, so they'd fit in well. Orton has the SHIELD backing him up. Daniel Bryan would have the Wyatts.
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