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Post by radiantsilvergun on Nov 30, 2015 17:59:48 GMT -5
Any chance that chick could be lying about Honma due to being batshit crazy etc? Happens over here in the west. Let's stop this talk right here. Victim shaming is wrong, and deters other abuse victims from coming forward. I'm saying there's always a slim chance of a Kobe Bryant whenever these things pop up. Can you really deny that? No shame intended. That was a stupid way to word it, i'm sorry.
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Post by 魔界5号 on Nov 30, 2015 19:06:12 GMT -5
If this is true, I feel really bad for his girlfriend. To not be able to bring herself to leave him after 18 years even after this means she must be one hell of a good soul.
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Post by Raskovnik on Nov 30, 2015 22:10:00 GMT -5
Can you imagine how scary it'd be to have Honma yelling at you in his demon voice?
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Post by Mondai Rogue on Dec 1, 2015 8:00:03 GMT -5
Honma's now claiming that he was being abused.
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Post by 魔界5号 on Dec 1, 2015 14:31:46 GMT -5
As I've said, I really don't want to believe these accusations. Honma is my favourite wrestler in the world and it seems weird that she would just come out with these allegations now as his popularity is getting higher and higher and he's possibly about to finally win a Championship. Maybe I'm blinded by my fandom of him as a wrestler and character but.. innocent until proven guilty.
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Post by 魔界5号 on Dec 1, 2015 15:47:01 GMT -5
Honma is probably gonna get fired, even if he is innocent. Taichi got suspended a few years back JUST for cheating on his girlfriend.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 1, 2015 16:28:00 GMT -5
Honma is probably gonna get fired, even if he is innocent. Taichi got suspended a few years back JUST for cheating on his girlfriend. It was his wife that Taichi cheated on. He also almost retired from the scandal but fan response saved his job and career. Japanese culture is real traditional about a lot of things. For Honma's sake, he better hope he is found innocent otherwise his career in wrestling done in Japan unless a group like Zero-1 takes him in like did with the Voodoo Murders.
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Post by mute09 on Dec 1, 2015 16:31:02 GMT -5
What happened with the voodoo murders?
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Post by chrom on Dec 1, 2015 16:37:36 GMT -5
Let's wait and see what's going on, this involving Honma is rather sudden and he's claiming its the other way around.
And if they had been together for over 18 years, why now is she doing this? Surely she would've done something earlier.
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Post by AdamAFL was sooooo wrong on Dec 1, 2015 16:53:30 GMT -5
Let's wait and see what's going on, this involving Honma is rather sudden and he's claiming its the other way around. And if they had been together for over 18 years, why now is she doing this? Surely she would've done something earlier. Really? It wouldn't be the first time it took a victim years to come out. Why do I feel that regardless of whether the authorities find Honma innocent or guilty this woman is going to be vilified regardless?
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Post by Starshine on Dec 1, 2015 17:04:01 GMT -5
I think this is something that everyone should read.
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Post by chrom on Dec 1, 2015 17:05:41 GMT -5
Let's wait and see what's going on, this involving Honma is rather sudden and he's claiming its the other way around. And if they had been together for over 18 years, why now is she doing this? Surely she would've done something earlier. Really? It wouldn't be the first time it took a victim years to come out. Why do I feel that regardless of whether the authorities find Honma innocent or guilty this woman is going to be vilified regardless? For the love off..I'm not vilifiying her or victim shaming her like you think I am, I 'm finding it skeptical that just now its coming out after all this time and I wanna know the whole story as we don't know anything. But hey, everyone knows that women are innocent fragile beings who can never bring themselves to hurt another being. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_Don't_Tell
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Dec 1, 2015 17:09:40 GMT -5
What happened with the voodoo murders? Members Yoshikazu Taru and Nobukazu Hirai got into a fight backstage in 2011 and Taru caused him to have a stroke after his match from beating him up. He was fired and is pretty much on the fringe of Indies.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Dec 1, 2015 17:35:27 GMT -5
Right we have allegations on both sides. Something happened between these two individuals but what we don't know. Let us not sit here and say that one party is lying because of time (Cosby anyone?) or the other is being wronged because of their career or gender. All you are doing is making things tougher for those who experience abuse to feel comfortable coming forward. Watch what you say as whether you mean it to or not, it affects more than those in the situation discussed.
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Post by AdamAFL was sooooo wrong on Dec 1, 2015 17:53:39 GMT -5
Really? It wouldn't be the first time it took a victim years to come out. Why do I feel that regardless of whether the authorities find Honma innocent or guilty this woman is going to be vilified regardless? For the love off..I'm not vilifiying her or victim shaming her like you think I am, I 'm finding it skeptical that just now its coming out after all this time and I wanna know the whole story as we don't know anything. But hey, everyone knows that women are innocent fragile beings who can never bring themselves to hurt another being. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_Don't_Tell Woah. I hate people suffering regardless of their gender so I'm not saying "women are innocent flowers". There a lot of bad people in the world doing bad things regardless of their race, gender, orientation, religion etc. All I was saying was victims (regardless of gender) often take years to come out after being attacked. Either because they're scared, ashamed or for a plethora of other reasons. I never accused you of "vilifying or victim shaming her". I was merely pointing out that just because she didn't come out straight away it does not mean she's lying. The final sentence regarding the vilifying of her regardless of what judgement is rendered was a general point and not in any way directed at you personally. And there's no need for sarcasm like that, it just makes you look like a dick.
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Post by radiantsilvergun on Dec 1, 2015 22:44:33 GMT -5
Honma is probably gonna get fired, even if he is innocent. Taichi got suspended a few years back JUST for cheating on his girlfriend. Did Tana get any flak for his incident?
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Post by Facetious on Dec 1, 2015 23:04:23 GMT -5
Man, this Honma stuff is heartbreaking. He seemed like such a cool guy and became one of my favorites over the past two years.
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Post by 魔界5号 on Dec 2, 2015 2:52:58 GMT -5
Honma is probably gonna get fired, even if he is innocent. Taichi got suspended a few years back JUST for cheating on his girlfriend. Did Tana get any flak for his incident? No idea but I'd imagine they were a bit more lenient considering his position.
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Post by N E O G E O B O Y S on Dec 2, 2015 12:57:13 GMT -5
Honma is probably gonna get fired, even if he is innocent. Taichi got suspended a few years back JUST for cheating on his girlfriend. Did Tana get any flak for his incident? I doubt it, since "Being stabbed by your psycho ex" is hardly a reason to get fired. If anything, I recall that this gave him a big mainstream push If all of this is true I will really feel bad for ichiki. Also, I don't know why I'm just making the relation between honma and that other wrestler who also used the diving headbutt and abused his family
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Post by Mondai Rogue on Dec 2, 2015 15:27:29 GMT -5
Did Tana get any flak for his incident? I doubt it, since "Being stabbed by your psycho ex" is hardly a reason to get fired. If anything, I recall that this gave him a big mainstream push If all of this is true I will really feel bad for ichiki. Also, I don't know why I'm just making the relation between honma and that other wrestler who also used the diving headbutt and abused his family Not the only one making that relation. I've been making it myself when talking about it elsewhere. Add into account Honma made his name in deathmatches too, his brain is surely in some state.
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