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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Oct 22, 2013 17:19:39 GMT -5
... ... ... TNA has some pretty big boo-boos, I'm not sure kissing them is gonna make them feel better.
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Post by kidglov3s on Oct 22, 2013 18:16:54 GMT -5
... ... ... TNA has some pretty big boo-boos, I'm not sure kissing them is gonna make them feel better. I would definitely not recommend direct contact with TNA's wounds. Who knows what you could catch, Dixitis, Bischorrhea, Herves, StreptoHulki. #standardprecautions
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Oct 22, 2013 18:51:09 GMT -5
TNA has some pretty big boo-boos, I'm not sure kissing them is gonna make them feel better. I would definitely not recommend direct contact with TNA's wounds. Who knows what you could catch, Dixitis, Bischorrhea, Herves, StreptoHulki. #standardprecautions You are the medical expert here so I'll take your word for it.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Oct 22, 2013 21:04:31 GMT -5
TNA is sadly at the point where it is just a zombie. It will never be what it wants to be, which is a competitor to the WWE.
TNA had something, but when they did the Monday Night timeslot WAY TOO SOON, they lost. Honestly, it is like the Death of WCW said and I am paraphrasing because I can not find the actual line itself.
"When things are going down, nothing seems to work."
That is what has happened to TNA. It is down and nothing will work to fix it.
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Post by ICBM on Oct 22, 2013 21:36:11 GMT -5
2009 was such a great yr and built such momentum, they could have done a couple things. Keep it going exactly the way they did in 09 and hope that keeps working or try to make. Or make a Big move to excelerate it. They opted to make the big move and in so doing, assumed the risk of failing. Everybody here almost exclusively adores Paul Heyman. Heyman lived by the credo of nothing ventured nothing gained. Dixie ventured. This might fail. If it does I won't fault her for trying but I will fault some of the choices that she made that could contribute to demise
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Oct 22, 2013 21:42:57 GMT -5
2009 was such a great yr and built such momentum, they could have done a couple things. Keep it going exactly the way they did in 09 and hope that keeps working or try to make. Or make a Big move to excelerate it. They opted to make the big move and in so doing, assumed the risk of failing. Everybody here almost exclusively adores Paul Heyman. Heyman lived by the credo of nothing ventured nothing gained. Dixie ventured. This might fail. If it does I won't fault her for trying but I will fault some of the choices that she made that could contribute to demise To be fair, Heyman never went to see this would be the next Monday Night War or that we would be the competition WWE and wrestling needed. He merely said we would be an alternative to all that other stuff.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Oct 22, 2013 22:00:40 GMT -5
I forbid TNA to die.The resulting smug assholeish "I told you so's" would break the internet.
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Post by Rave on Oct 22, 2013 22:27:10 GMT -5
And really, let's face it. If the freaking Bro-Mans being tag champs is any indication, TNA is now in the time of "Why not?". They've thrown pretty much everyone they can at the problem of them not attracting fans, why not make Daniels the champ and part of the company focal point for a while? He could run with it, be the centerpiece of EGO, and the three of them could fend off all challengers 'til a suitable face (Magnus?) can step up. Honestly, I'm entertained by the Bro Mans (or at least Robbie E)so them winning doesn't bug me. Daniels and Kaz don't need the titles Chavo and Hernandez aren't over, nor is Gunner and James Storm has had 2 or 3 fairly serious injuries recently. While giving EGO the belts would have been perfectly fine with me, Robbie and Jesse get a bigger rub from winning the titles than EGO. You missed my point. I was using the Bro-Mans' fairly out-of-nowhere tag title win as an example of "Why not?", not saying that Bad Influence should be tag champs again. I was thinking like the Horsemen used to function for Flair, that's how EGO would work for Daniels in the scenario I have in my mind.
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Post by SOR on Oct 22, 2013 23:52:25 GMT -5
Daniels isn't in shape? Doesn't look after himself? What show are you watching? If anyone's anti-Angle, it's because of his health. Daniels has shown no sign of the physical breakdown that Angle has. Rey Mysterio is certainly not bigger than Daniels, aside from width perhaps. I appreciate you may not enjoy him but to call Daniels a poor entertainer is ridiculous. Best to just ignore anything SOR says about Daniels. It seems he's holding some bizarre grudge against him for some reason. Incorrect, I actually like Daniels. When I was 14 he was very nice to me, signed an autograph and had a great match with AJ Styles so if anything I respect him for being nice to me and giving me a memorable experience because a lot of other wrestlers *Cough* Raven *Cough* did not. He just doesn't have the look that a World Heavyweight Champion should. if I had a grudge against him I'd say fire him. He still has a role to play in TNA it just shouldn't be in the main event. He should be the backbone of the Tag division or the X-Division. Hell maybe even the TV Title division.
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Oct 23, 2013 1:40:43 GMT -5
This company is absolutely a shell of itself. I was one of those TNA defenders for years. I went to house shows, bought merch and so on.
They had a chance to build something, yet haven't. The brand is tainted too much at this point. The bloom is off the rose. The name "TNA" is never going to taken seriously.
Dixie Carter is an idiot who listens to anyone with a persuasive argument. People like her shouldn't be in the wrestling business.
They could have done something special if Dixie would have let Heyman come in and have total control. Spike was on board, Panda was on board. However she thought Hulk was too valuable as Heyman would have gotten rid of him.
It's nowhere near WCW levels of bad. However, for a company their size with a Cable TV network behind them and the talent they've had, boy have they screwed up time after time.
At this point, new owners and new branding would be the best thing. If there's a viable second promotion in this country with money that comes along (like AAA's potential American expansion), TNA can die for all I care. However at this point, wrestling needs it to stay along so there's an alternative.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Oct 23, 2013 6:50:22 GMT -5
The problem with TNA currently is there isn't a feeling of excitement and buzz. Bound For Glory wasn't the harbinger of a new day like most wanted it to be. It should had raised the spirits of the TNA fans and washed away the bad taste of the past year. But it just made folks feel like they were watching a wake. It didn't feel like a signature ppv. TNA done ppv themed Impacts that were better. With news of TNA hemorrhaging money like a hemophiliac in a deathmatch, Janice Carter hitting the Budget Cutter with pinpoint precision, and the return to the place that TNA hated because they have no choice; the mood won't get better any time soon.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Oct 23, 2013 8:12:24 GMT -5
I say make the most of the rest of the year. Give us one last AJ/Daniels match, have AJ drop the title to Daniels, and have him be the last TNA champ. Close at the beginning of next year. Either that, or force Dixie and the idiots feeding her bullcrap (BISCHOFF) out and let someone else run the show. At this rate, ANYONE could do better than them. Chris Daniels is 43 and weighs probably under 200 pounds... For f***'s sake dude the man wasn't even suggesting giving Daniels a title run for the sake of the future, he literally just meant for him to get a thank you reign and then close down the company with him as champ. Which makes perfect sense to me. Let it rest. You have a strong against the grain opinion on Chris Daniels and thats fine and you have a right to express it when appropriate and I even see where you're coming from with it usually but this just wasn't the time or place to express it. Its like you just saw "Daniels" and "TNA Champ" and commented without actually looking at the context at all.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Oct 23, 2013 8:14:05 GMT -5
The filter on this site really makes me aware of how much I drop F-bombs, too much.
Also I'm so mad about the "Disney buying TNA, rebranding in Impact Wrestling, and actually taking the fight to Vince" idea because now I can add that to my long list of awesome pipe dream ideas that will never ever ever happen. I'm just so sad.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Oct 23, 2013 9:40:20 GMT -5
Yeah, you see people on the net that say they hope WWE buys TNA. I have never once thought McMahon would ever consider it. -Buying TNA & utilizing the footage (ala WCW) would never work. Pretty much everyone who wants a TNA DVD already has it. I've never heard anyone clamoring for a TNA DVD. Whereas, I have heard ppl say they would like a DVD of "this" or "that" of WCW. -There would not be any gain roster-wise. It'd be more worth it for WWE to wait for contracts to expire & pick up the two or three guys that would be an asset to their midcard. I'm not a TNA hater. Those are facts. I worked with (not for) the company earlier this year, they have a lot of great, kind people working for them behind the scenes. I would like to see a true alternative to the WWE out there (TNA is neither an alternative or competition to). I believe that more wrestling companies on TV creates more exposure for wrestlers, more job opportunities for wrestlers, and the potential of more star wrestlers. However, TNA hasn't done any of those things besides providing employment for wrestlers. I would hate to see TNA go out of business. It would be great if SPIKE just bought TNA, changed it's name, and ran it on it's own. Refocus it as a TV "show" (forget the touring, etc, for a bit). Build it up & it's characters, before taking the TV show on the road & then expanding in to house shows as well. Yes, that would be pretty much starting from scratch in many respects, but that would be better than a hastily thrown together reboot. This is everyone's pipedream. With the exception of a network head being a moneymark like Turner, it wouldn't happen. Spike makes television shows. FX doesn't pay to bring Louis CK to your town to do comedy. The less reliant they can be on Spike the better their chance of survival. Louis CK is a hot comedy act and could probably fill an arena better than Hulk Hogan at this point in their respective careers, but it doesn't benefit either party. What benefits them is the looser relationship. Louis does his tours on his own and it promotes his television show and the television show brings people out to see him. That's how wrestling runs best too. I know it's a pipedream. Pipedreams are about all TNA has to hope for.
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Post by Hit Girl on Oct 23, 2013 9:59:17 GMT -5
I like the idea of a Disney-run wrestling company. It can be PG without any of the backstage carnie mentality of WWE.
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Post by crowwreak was WRONG on Oct 23, 2013 10:53:07 GMT -5
If TNA goes down, WWE stops having to try.
If you want to know how that ends up, watch some 2001 WWE.
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Post by rybackrulez on Oct 23, 2013 11:04:17 GMT -5
No punches or anything
No violence wrestling
The guys solve their issues via sitcom situations
Violence becomes cartoony as they cut to comercial when vilence happens. Then match ends via 3-count
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Post by ________ has left the building on Oct 23, 2013 14:35:17 GMT -5
The thing about a Disney run wrestling promotion is are y'all really prepared for a truly PG wrestling product. No blood. No swearing. No over the top violence. No overt sexuality. The writers being from It's A Laugh Productions. Basically Saturday Morning Slam with non-stop Eric Young type antics. I see how much flack WWE get for being PG. Think about how well this will go over with the 18-25 crowd. Kids would love this though.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2013 17:49:46 GMT -5
The thing about a Disney run wrestling promotion is are y'all really prepared for a truly PG wrestling product. No blood. No swearing. No over the top violence. No overt sexuality. The writers being from It's A Laugh Productions. Basically Saturday Morning Slam with non-stop Eric Young type antics. I see how much flack WWE get for being PG. Think about how well this will go over with the 18-25 crowd. Kids would love this though. Or they'd just put the show on ESPN with a higher rating. I believe that football show they made a while back, Playmakers, was TV-MA. A TV-14 wrestling show would definitely be doable.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Oct 23, 2013 18:22:31 GMT -5
The thing about a Disney run wrestling promotion is are y'all really prepared for a truly PG wrestling product. No blood. No swearing. No over the top violence. No overt sexuality. The writers being from It's A Laugh Productions. Basically Saturday Morning Slam with non-stop Eric Young type antics. I see how much flack WWE get for being PG. Think about how well this will go over with the 18-25 crowd. Kids would love this though. Or they'd just put the show on ESPN with a higher rating. I believe that football show they made a while back, Playmakers, was TV-MA. A TV-14 wrestling show would definitely be doable. Disney would put it on Disney XD instead of ESPN due the former being their network for tween boys. Wrestling would fit there better than ESPN.
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