ICBM
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Post by ICBM on Oct 21, 2013 15:37:54 GMT -5
I stopped following every week a couple yrs ago. I have followed casually since. There was a time that TNA was the only wrestling program I would watch and in here I defended them with mafia like loyalty. I can't point to one single reason why I lost interest but perhaps just the difference between what I fell in love with and what it became about a yr and a half after Ogan and EB joined up. Anyway, reading stories about them the last few months and occasionally tuning in and seeing the terrible state of things makes me almost wish for a quick death or a restart under new ownership. Dixie cannot right the ship. Jarret can't either and the biggest shame will be his loss in the end. It used to be a running joke in here about TNA Locker room morale or financial woes, but the attendance figures that you get from fans and promoters of live events, are factual and bad. The fact that they are trying to move back into the Impact zone and take it off the road, they can't even afford to re-sign Hogan at pawn shop prices. It is hard to look at all of the reports and call all of it bull. Some is likely exaggerated or false, but there is just so much that is written about how terrible things are going operationally, there simply must be some truth in it. I watched wcw die and I was loyal to them. To read how dire it really was a few yrs after it closed, did nothing to ease the pain, but it did help me to understand. Seriously, the stories and newz that is prevailing is not flattering at all. At least some compliments were still being given to content when wcw was floundering.
I don't want another protracted death. Pull the plug or sell it. But please don't let this continue. Your thoughts FAN?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2013 16:53:38 GMT -5
Impact isn't beyond saving. Give EGO more time. There are good people here.
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Post by kamero00 on Oct 21, 2013 17:07:11 GMT -5
Their ratings are strong enough, that Spike TV will take care of it. It's the networks highest rated program.
But stupid decisions like: signing Hogan...twice, signing Flair, taking Impact on the road, moving to mondays, signing the Nasty Boys, signing Val Venis, having BFG in non traditional TNA markets, and so forth have needlessly wasted A LOT of money.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Oct 21, 2013 17:25:45 GMT -5
I feel your pain, ICBM. I know it might be a pipe dream but I wished Disney would buy TNA and do a complete overhaul of the promotion. Change the name, fire the deadweight and cancer, hire people who know what they are doing, and change the tv content. Basically, work the Disney magic. A wrestling promotion that is family friendly would excel in their corporate brand.
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Post by kidglov3s on Oct 21, 2013 17:43:25 GMT -5
I feel your pain, ICBM. I know it might be a pipe dream but I wished Disney would buy TNA and do a complete overhaul of the promotion. Change the name, fire the deadweight and cancer, hire people who know what they are doing, and change the tv content. Basically, work the Disney magic. A wrestling promotion that is family friendly would excel in their corporate brand. That would be Vince's worst nightmare and possibly disastrously funny. Of course there's absolutely no reason for them to buy TNA if they're going to change the name. |
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Oct 21, 2013 17:43:33 GMT -5
I forbid TNA to die.The resulting smug assholeish "I told you so's" would break the internet.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2013 17:59:54 GMT -5
I forbid TNA to die.The resulting smug assholeish "I told you so's" would break the internet. If you think it'd be bad on the internet just imagine all ex & current bookers of every other promotion. A warzone of phrases, a phrase pool devoid of honour, celebratory grunt sounds more vitriol than syllable. |
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Post by TK The Friendly Robot on Oct 21, 2013 18:05:32 GMT -5
Why haven't we started a kickstarter to buy TNA yet?
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Oct 21, 2013 18:13:29 GMT -5
Why haven't we started a kickstarter to buy TNA yet? Does it come with a pizza oven? |
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Post by DASH 243✅ on Oct 21, 2013 18:16:22 GMT -5
It really sucks how great impact was getting right before Hogan came. Getting Hogan set them back years imo. Now they should keep ego like earlier stated and get some good young talent to build around.
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Post by Glitch on Oct 21, 2013 18:17:33 GMT -5
Let's be real, Tna won't die until Panda stops pumping money into it. Right now it seems that Janice put her foot down and told Dixie to make the company live within it's means. Whether this will lead to good or bad things we have yet to see, but I really hope this is the smack in the face they need to wake up.
With AJ as champ, EGO, and EC3, I'm wanna see how this goes.
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Post by Lancers on Oct 21, 2013 18:31:13 GMT -5
All of the LOLTNA jokes aside, I don't get why people would cheer the death of TNA. It's nice to have competition in pro wrestling. Sure, there's mismanagement, but I think people tend to believe that there's this sort of boundless untapped wealth just waiting to be acquired by someone who has a better grasp of business.
The thing is, wrestling is at a point where I don't see much of an opportunity to be financially stable any longer outside of the WWE which spent years building up alternative revenue streams. Think of every single American-based wrestling promotion since 2001. Count the amount of promotions that have become profitable and, most importantly, sustain that profitability.
TNA has the Spike deal. It's a great starting off point for sustainable success. Now the problem. It's been several years of a lack of direction. People generally aren't buying their PPVs. They're not interested in going to house shows. They're not buying t-shirts and other apparel. TNA's inconsistency has probably cost them thousands of potential customers.
The only revenue stream TNA has that's consistent is the Spike deal. Can't build solely off that. They tried that idea of doing all their programming in one venue to cut costs and then decided to take the show on the road and lost even more money.
TNA needs to negotiate a better contract with Spike which will be tough because there doesn't seem to be anyone willing to put a bid on them to set up a bidding war for TNA programming. But even with a better deal, they have to cut spending on talent like Angle, Hardy, Sting and Hogan as well. AND they have to build characters that create an emotional attachment to the fans. Another point of emphasis that is much easier to write and suggest than to actually accomplish.
I have more respect for TNA management than I did for WCW's management. WCW was the number one promotion in early 1998 and only in three short years...vanished off the face of this Earth. They were so bad, sometimes I wonder if people were deliberately trying to kill WCW. Leadership was so inept. TNA has hung in there for over a decade having a much harder financial tightrope to walk on.
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Post by Djm Doesn't Find You Funny on Oct 21, 2013 18:49:30 GMT -5
Pull the plug.
I want TNA gone. TNA has been a company of shattered expectations, disappointment, and near-maddening frustration as a fan for nearly their entire time in existence.
It's not competition when the pay gap between what TNA pays and what the next largest company pays is as much as it is, and TNA doesn't even allow their talent to get indy bookings if they want without jumping through tons of hoops.
Creatively, this company is so painfully inconsistent and frustrating that there's no reason to think that it will get better. They don't get the benefit of "just wait and see u guize", because they've NEVER successfully completed anything.
The talent roster has become an example of wasted effort and futility. There will ALWAYS be that WWE guy that comes up to get put over AJ Styles and Samoa Joe, who aren't "young guys" and "the future" anymore. There will always be the old should-be-retired guy that will come in and be made the main focus of the program until the next one comes along so they can feud or form a faction together. The X-Divison, TNA’s one true special commodity, is a ghost of what people remember it being because of the same tired-ass myopic mindset about how wrestling “should be” even in the year 2013.
And because TNA has been so frustratingly bad for so long, the majority of people who acknowledge its existence will always see it as a company that sucks, fair or not.
TNA has become an exercise in futility, and I do genuinely want it gone. Not to laugh, but just so fans can stop suffering.
It’s not gonna get better.
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Post by Rave on Oct 21, 2013 20:38:14 GMT -5
I say make the most of the rest of the year. Give us one last AJ/Daniels match, have AJ drop the title to Daniels, and have him be the last TNA champ. Close at the beginning of next year.
Either that, or force Dixie and the idiots feeding her bullcrap (BISCHOFF) out and let someone else run the show. At this rate, ANYONE could do better than them.
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Post by katiemorgan67212 on Oct 21, 2013 20:43:43 GMT -5
TNA will always be a loser company as long as a loser runs the company.
The loser is Dixie Carter. She is an idiot and doesn't care if TNA is good or not. She will never get smarter and she will never care enough to help the company.
Dixie has doesn't have a clue how to run a wrestling company and she is so arrogant and lazy she never took time in 10!! years (that's a long time to run a business you don't understand or like) to find out anything about it. No one can be horrible at something for 10 years straight if he or she cares about being good at it. People get better or they quit. Dixie needs to quit.
The BFG fiasco is not another ~small step to success~ it's a humiliating defeat and the blame should fall squarely on Dixie's head. Dixie had 6 months with nothing else to do but promote BFG as the most important ppv in the history of TNA and ensure a sold out arena. But she didn't do that. She didn't even try. Look at the fact that the matches were thrown together 2 weeks before the show and that none of them had coherent narratives and then try to tell me that Dixie cares. She doesn't.
If Dixie had any shame she would be so embarrassed by her own ineptness that she should be begging someone to buy the company because she would admit she was a failure and that she can't do this job. Dixie needs to stop wasting her parents money. If they had any sense they would FORCE her out of TNA.
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Post by SOR on Oct 21, 2013 21:47:58 GMT -5
I say make the most of the rest of the year. Give us one last AJ/Daniels match, have AJ drop the title to Daniels, and have him be the last TNA champ. Close at the beginning of next year. Either that, or force Dixie and the idiots feeding her bullcrap (BISCHOFF) out and let someone else run the show. At this rate, ANYONE could do better than them. Chris Daniels is 43 and weighs probably under 200 pounds... |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2013 22:15:13 GMT -5
partial sale.
Dixie Sells the controlling interest to someone who knows what they are doing. But she stays on as a backer.
That way we still have the spike timeslot and the Panda Energy money, but someone who knows what they are doing.
Sack OVW, they have produced no one. And I mean no one that TNA could use. TNA needs a better feeder system. Buy ROH and use it that way. It has produced the best wrestlers in the last 10 years.
A complete relaunch with a brand new company name, and we are golden.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2013 22:22:06 GMT -5
I say make the most of the rest of the year. Give us one last AJ/Daniels match, have AJ drop the title to Daniels, and have him be the last TNA champ. Close at the beginning of next year. Either that, or force Dixie and the idiots feeding her bullcrap (BISCHOFF) out and let someone else run the show. At this rate, ANYONE could do better than them. Chris Daniels is 43 and weighs probably under 200 pounds... .....tell us more ages/weights please. |
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Oct 21, 2013 22:23:36 GMT -5
Chris Daniels is 43 and weighs probably under 200 pounds... .....tell us more ages/weights please. Well, Hulk Hogan has been on a diet recently... |
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Oct 21, 2013 22:29:56 GMT -5
I say make the most of the rest of the year. Give us one last AJ/Daniels match, have AJ drop the title to Daniels, and have him be the last TNA champ. Close at the beginning of next year. Either that, or force Dixie and the idiots feeding her bullcrap (BISCHOFF) out and let someone else run the show. At this rate, ANYONE could do better than them. Chris Daniels is 43 and weighs probably under 200 pounds... He weighs 225 pounds. That's more than AJ and Jeff Hardy weigh and it's only 7 years the difference in age. |
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