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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Dec 20, 2013 0:37:23 GMT -5
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Dec 20, 2013 0:43:36 GMT -5
TNA: Our own Bully Ray was featured on a Buzzfeed list with big name celebrities like Alec Baldwin and Eminem!
Who cares what it's for!
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Post by kidglov3s on Dec 20, 2013 0:46:54 GMT -5
They misspelled queah. It's good that Bully Ray's douchebag behavior is noticed, but a shame that Aries' is probably lost to the dirtsheets of time.
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Post by Lancers on Dec 20, 2013 1:05:07 GMT -5
Sadly, this is the most positive press TNA has received in the last 8 months.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Dec 20, 2013 4:29:41 GMT -5
What's the context of this? Was Bully Ray being a heel, or was this some stupid argument on his Twittah Machine.
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Post by The Ichi on Dec 20, 2013 7:57:34 GMT -5
TNA: Our own Bully Ray was featured on a Buzzfeed list with big name celebrities like Alec Baldwin and Eminem! Who cares what it's for! I could actually see them saying this. |
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Post by jason1980s on Dec 20, 2013 8:19:06 GMT -5
What's the context of this? Was Bully Ray being a heel, or was this some stupid argument on his Twittah Machine. It was at, IIRC, a house show where a fan was heckling him and Bully Ray got into the guys face at ringside. I know Bully tries to keep in the heel gimmick but to me it came off as just not being good enough and trying to resort to heel-like tactics and he wound up taking it too far. I think Punk did similar to a fan at a house show but rather than yelling it, Punk just mouthed or whispered words. And Great Grappler is right, this will probably be a rallying point during backstage morale meetings. |
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Post by Boo! on Dec 20, 2013 8:20:58 GMT -5
The thing that annoys me about homophobia is the way people think it's atoned for with a half-assed apology.
"Oh I said it but I'm not really homophobic"
If you're not homophobic the idea to say it would never have popped into your head in the first place to say it.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Dec 20, 2013 13:30:03 GMT -5
eh. wouldn't be the first time Bubba called a fan a fag.
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Post by crowwreak was WRONG on Dec 20, 2013 13:42:38 GMT -5
What's the context of this? Was Bully Ray being a heel, or was this some stupid argument on his Twittah Machine. It was at, IIRC, a house show where a fan was heckling him and Bully Ray got into the guys face at ringside. I know Bully tries to keep in the heel gimmick but to me it came off as just not being good enough and trying to resort to heel-like tactics and he wound up taking it too far. I think Punk did similar to a fan at a house show but rather than yelling it, Punk just mouthed or whispered words. And Great Grappler is right, this will probably be a rallying point during backstage morale meetings. Punk's was "You#re a homo, AND YOU HAVE A VAGINAAAA" |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2013 14:10:00 GMT -5
Not much to do with the article, but I'm so beyond over Bully Ray, that dude needs to hang it up.
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Post by Strotha on Dec 20, 2013 14:30:45 GMT -5
As a bi dude I actually really don't have a problem with this. It fits his character and he's done it for years anyway. It's certainly not the most creative or original insult but it fits his character perfectly to be a homophobic dickhead.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 20, 2013 14:40:36 GMT -5
What's the context of this? Was Bully Ray being a heel, or was this some stupid argument on his Twittah Machine. Basically, Bully tried to use his old ECW heel tricks and called some dude a fag at a house show. Needless to say, the feedback was not pleasant. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2013 23:51:11 GMT -5
odd. Did someone name, names?
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 21, 2013 1:37:46 GMT -5
As a bi dude I actually really don't have a problem with this. It fits his character and he's done it for years anyway. It's certainly not the most creative or original insult but it fits his character perfectly to be a homophobic dickhead. Pretty much. 3. is kind o a stretch, though. "fruity" in this instance probably means prissy rather than necessarily gay. |
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Post by vivix on Dec 21, 2013 21:15:30 GMT -5
It was at, IIRC, a house show where a fan was heckling him and Bully Ray got into the guys face at ringside. I know Bully tries to keep in the heel gimmick but to me it came off as just not being good enough and trying to resort to heel-like tactics and he wound up taking it too far. I think Punk did similar to a fan at a house show but rather than yelling it, Punk just mouthed or whispered words. And Great Grappler is right, this will probably be a rallying point during backstage morale meetings. Punk's was "You#re a homo, AND YOU HAVE A VAGINAAAA" "Nice faux hawk homo. You have a VAGINA!" |
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Post by Amazing Kitsune on Dec 21, 2013 21:37:07 GMT -5
They know wrestling is a work, right? Is it heel heat? Yes. Is it tasteless heel heat? Yes. It's not much different than a villain in the movie using a slur. Villains aren't supposed to care about somebody's feelings. They can be racist, sexist, and homophobic. Since it's all entertainment, wrestlers should get the same leeway as actors. There is a difference between Bully Ray saying something and (goes to Wikipedia) Mark LoMonaco saying something. Actors get carte blanche to say or do anything in movies. Wrestlers should more or less get the same leeway at live events.
I think it was unnecessary for him to do it, though. It's just also unnecessary for him to be labeled as a homophobe when he's done nothing to deserve it(that I am aware of) beyond playing a part. It cheapens a term that already gets used too freely.
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Post by Sephiroth on Dec 21, 2013 21:51:49 GMT -5
A guy who picks out that kind of tacky decor is not the one to call anyone else q****
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2013 18:29:04 GMT -5
The thing that annoys me about homophobia is the way people think it's atoned for with a half-assed apology. "Oh I said it but I'm not really homophobic" If you're not homophobic the idea to say it would never have popped into your head in the first place to say it. Does using "lame" mean you have a hatred for physically handicapped people? Does using "absurd" mean you have a hatred for deaf people? Does using "dumb" mean you have a hatred for mute people? Does using "retarded", "moronic" or "idiotic" (the latter two actually being demonstrably worse insults) mean you have a hatred for mentally handicapped people? To say a pro wrestler can't use a term for the sole purpose of generating a theatric negative reaction is just as sensical as saying that Tumblr feminist superstar Ryan Gosling actually hates women because he tried to strangle Sandra Bullock to death in Murder By Numbers. |
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Post by jason1980s on Dec 23, 2013 18:42:39 GMT -5
They know wrestling is a work, right? Is it heel heat? Yes. Is it tasteless heel heat? Yes. It's not much different than a villain in the movie using a slur. Villains aren't supposed to care about somebody's feelings. They can be racist, sexist, and homophobic. Since it's all entertainment, wrestlers should get the same leeway as actors. There is a difference between Bully Ray saying something and (goes to Wikipedia) Mark LoMonaco saying something. Actors get carte blanche to say or do anything in movies. Wrestlers should more or less get the same leeway at live events. I think it was unnecessary for him to do it, though. It's just also unnecessary for him to be labeled as a homophobe when he's done nothing to deserve it(that I am aware of) beyond playing a part. It cheapens a term that already gets used too freely. The problem with wrestling is that you have a guy like Bully who takes his heel status very seriously which has been noticeable by fans at autograph conventions. No way he can come off as negative towards fans if he wasn't trying to be in character. If wrestlers want to make it seem like it's all still real then they should have to face the consequences of their actions. My personal opinion is that it comes down to the wrestler not being that great at their position. An old school heel probably never had to resort to anti-gay verbiage in a time when it becomes a media crapstorm against them. |
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