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Post by gnr123 on Jan 2, 2014 23:37:31 GMT -5
I guess that's why they were willing to pay Xavier Woods to become a doctor. Sure, they made a very intelligent well spoken young man have a dancing gimmick, but at least they paid for his college. And yeah, apparently Joey Mercury and William Regal were the guys pitching the American Wolves. Again, if they won't be signed, this is a team TNA should go after. They're probably somewhat expensive, but not likely as much as some more known WWE talent on the indies. If they had any common sense, they'd stay as far away from TNA as possible.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2014 2:31:09 GMT -5
Who got injured Davey or Eddie
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Post by jakes on Jan 3, 2014 3:19:45 GMT -5
WWE blows. So now you have zero chance of being signed if you have worldwide experience or are "too small". Instead, it is better to have a PED look and have zero experience after failing to make the cut for the NFL, be Lesnar or Angle wannabe from the amateur world or be a bodybuilder trying to be a wrestler. Does your average WWE fan even care about how big or tall somebody is anymore? I think they care more about characters, stories and match quality than anything else. HHH and company are clueless and out of touch. They are lucky companies like TNA have dropped the ball and that they have TV rights fees coming up this year. Otherwise they would he dead in the water.
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Post by Boozeman on Jan 3, 2014 4:59:16 GMT -5
So who would induct Warrior into the HOF? The only living logical wrestling people I can see doing it is Vince. Maybe Hogan, but Warrior seems to really dislike him.
I know WWE usually decides these things for the inductees, but I can't really see Warrior agreeing to that. He will probably want to handpick whoever it is and it probably won't be someone famous to the WWE universe.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 3, 2014 5:22:35 GMT -5
As much as I like all the life coaching stuff they do behind the scenes having guys toil years in developmental seems like an utter waste and in some ways stunts their development. A lot of these guys would be better served in some kind of talent exchange program with ROH,Lucha,Japan etc. If someone is polished as a ring performer you should only need to spend a few months in the farm system learning to tweak your strengths to the WWE style. If someone is a turd years of polishing in FCW they will still be a turd but now a complacent one who probably picked up DUI's. I'm not sure if I like the idea of a talent exchange program. To me, such a thing would just effectively turn those other promotions into glorified minor leagues, which would be somewhat of a disservice to those companies and the performers. While someone going from RoH/Mexico/Japan to WWE will be seen as a guy "on the way up", someone moving from WWE to RoH will be stuck carrying a stigma over their heads as being someone who got "demoted" because he's a "turd" as you put it. And those companies will end up being labeled as the place for WWE rejects, never was, guys who can't hang in the big leagues, etc. WWE probably doesn't see any benefit with doing an exchange program with other promotions. And they probably don't want to be "shown up" by sending someone like CJ Parker or Jason Jordan to RoH only to have that company utilize him hell of a lot better than WWE currently is Ideally, since WWE already has a diverse roster along with experienced and well traveled trainers and seasoned vets working various backstage roles, everyone should already be cooperating and helping each other out to get better. The less seasoned wrestlers should be approaching guys like Regal backstage or even a fellow main roster talent like Bryan or Punk and asking for advice, etc.
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Post by mrjl on Jan 3, 2014 6:15:02 GMT -5
If WWE put it forward, I doubt you would. Of course not. He'd wait for someone else to complain, and reply something like "mugsy bogues was 5'3" and act like he just sunk your Battleship. it's be the potbelly I'd have issue with more than the height
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Post by TGM on Jan 3, 2014 6:35:09 GMT -5
A mediocre indy team received a try-out and didn't pass. I suspect the reasons are less "they're too small' and more "they are not good enough for WWE."
I like the Wolves personally, but I can easily see why WWE would want nothing to do with them.
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Post by Sin Cara Tres on Jan 3, 2014 6:45:36 GMT -5
I don't like the Wolves so I'm okay with this. {Spoiler} Spoiler
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jan 3, 2014 9:28:02 GMT -5
I thought when they got the tryout it was reported that the Wolves were being looked strictly as a tag team.
I think they also had a TNA offer in their back pocket and based on comments that have been made, I think they may be taking that offer.
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Post by WorkingInAColeMine on Jan 3, 2014 9:33:28 GMT -5
Giving a live mic to Warrior for 30 minutes seems like something that can end in disaster.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2014 9:44:29 GMT -5
So who would induct Warrior into the HOF? The only living logical wrestling people I can see doing it is Vince. Maybe Hogan, but Warrior seems to really dislike him. I know WWE usually decides these things for the inductees, but I can't really see Warrior agreeing to that. He will probably want to handpick whoever it is and it probably won't be someone famous to the WWE universe. RVD? He help Warrior trained for his return match a couple years ago.
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Post by Ryushinku on Jan 3, 2014 14:28:46 GMT -5
Shame for Edwards, though I don't give a damn about Richards. I don't expect we'll get anything more than rumour and speculation on this for a while yet so I won't comment on the suggested reasons.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Jan 3, 2014 16:19:00 GMT -5
Triple H: Congratulations American Wolves, you're our new tag team. Wolves: *gasps* Triple H: That's what I'd be saying to you if you weren't an inch too short. NEXT!
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Post by Ganon83 on Jan 3, 2014 16:43:34 GMT -5
The USA number might be a bit misleading because of RAW over runs and RAW might still help lead in an audience for the next program.
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Post by Chip on Jan 3, 2014 16:48:27 GMT -5
Regarding the Edwards/Richards thing.. Sometimes I wish wrestling was more shoot based. Most of the old time wrestlers weren't the biggest guys, but they'd put the hurt on you, the same applies with many MMA guys. WHY THE HELL does Vince and Co. continue to want people to "look the part"? Isn't it clear the fans don't put the kind of emphasis on this anymore? If some 5'3 guy with a potbelly debuted tomorrow and they promoted him as some kind of insane submission specialist...would THAT many people complain that he doesn't look the part? It's the job of the company to make the guy matter, not genetics. It's about playing the part. The 80's are over Vince...people don't buy that shit as much anymore. they're interested in people besides the current fans. THey want guys who will attract non-wrestling fans too. Honestly, almost every non-fan I've spoken to still believes wrestling is filled with steroid injecting meat-heads that wrestle like Hulkamania happened a week ago. The big dudes are usually the reason they don't watch, rather then being a draw.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 3, 2014 18:01:59 GMT -5
So who would induct Warrior into the HOF? The only living logical wrestling people I can see doing it is Vince. Maybe Hogan, but Warrior seems to really dislike him. I know WWE usually decides these things for the inductees, but I can't really see Warrior agreeing to that. He will probably want to handpick whoever it is and it probably won't be someone famous to the WWE universe. RVD? He help Warrior trained for his return match a couple years ago. Yeah, that makes sense, they seem like they're if not friends at least fairly friendly acquaintances.
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Post by mizerable on Jan 3, 2014 18:34:52 GMT -5
I think Billy Jack Haynes would be a good inductor. I don't think you need a high level talent to induct him.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 3, 2014 19:00:37 GMT -5
So who would induct Warrior into the HOF? The only living logical wrestling people I can see doing it is Vince. Maybe Hogan, but Warrior seems to really dislike him. I know WWE usually decides these things for the inductees, but I can't really see Warrior agreeing to that. He will probably want to handpick whoever it is and it probably won't be someone famous to the WWE universe. I thought, usually the inductee get to choose who they want to induct them and the WWE either agrees to it or says no.
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Post by Crimson on Jan 3, 2014 19:24:40 GMT -5
So who would induct Warrior into the HOF? The only living logical wrestling people I can see doing it is Vince. Maybe Hogan, but Warrior seems to really dislike him. I know WWE usually decides these things for the inductees, but I can't really see Warrior agreeing to that. He will probably want to handpick whoever it is and it probably won't be someone famous to the WWE universe. Maybe the King if he's gotten over him wearing a baseball cap during that one promo.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 0:25:38 GMT -5
they're interested in people besides the current fans. THey want guys who will attract non-wrestling fans too. Honestly, almost every non-fan I've spoken to still believes wrestling is filled with steroid injecting meat-heads that wrestle like Hulkamania happened a week ago. The big dudes are usually the reason they don't watch, rather then being a draw. According to my group of friends, who don't like wrestling and find it lightweight/goofy/redneck/trashy/stupid etc., guys like CM Punk, The Shield, The Wyatt Family, and Brock Lesnar are cool and if there were more people like that they'd be more apt to watch. They like shows like Mad Men, Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, etc. From what I can tell, and I may be wrong since I tend to exist in my own bubble in terms of entertainment, those shows represent things that are A. cool to like and B. critically acclaimed. Those two things go hand in hand. Good critical reception leads to positive word-of-mouth leads to interest. So what's the common ground between those guys? A certain level of coolness/aura. No campy stuff. Some character depth. Badasses kickin assholes' asses. It's not all about body type, or all about workrate. It's more nuanced than that. I think WWE realizes that...but I'm not sure. Market research leads to less-then-nuanced thinking, sometimes.
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