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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 24, 2014 23:31:01 GMT -5
It should though. The part timers should only be here to put butts in seats. They should not be treated as more important than Bryan. IF Bryan faces Orton for the title, then the logical card besides them would be: Undertaker vs. John Cena Batista vs. Brock Lesnar CM Punk vs. Triple H Orton vs Bryan would be the 4th most important match on the card at that point considering it's happened about 20 times over the last 6 months and these 3 matches would be what moves buys. Hell, NO match that WWE could come up with should main event over Undertaker vs Cena if it does happen No ones denying the drawing power that the part timers have. But why shouldn't Bryan be the one to actually CLOSE the show? He's earned it. It's his time to shine.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2014 23:35:47 GMT -5
True. Though if Bryan isn't main-eventing this WrestleMania, then I'm not watching it. You realize that even if by some miracle he does win and faces Orton that it's not main eventing the show right? Well, I can live with that, though honestly, I kind of have a hard time seeing something like Lesnar / Taker closing the show out just because the show's two months away and there hasn't been even the slightest hint at it happening yet, while every match to close out Mania since like 21 has at least had some sort of longterm build in place for it. I mean more if Bryan isn't in the title match, I'm not watching the show.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jan 24, 2014 23:36:11 GMT -5
IF Bryan faces Orton for the title, then the logical card besides them would be: Undertaker vs. John Cena Batista vs. Brock Lesnar CM Punk vs. Triple H Orton vs Bryan would be the 4th most important match on the card at that point considering it's happened about 20 times over the last 6 months and these 3 matches would be what moves buys. Hell, NO match that WWE could come up with should main event over Undertaker vs Cena if it does happen No ones denying the drawing power that the part timers have. But why shouldn't Bryan be the one to actually CLOSE the show? He's earned it. It's his time to shine. Because it's f***ing Undertaker vs. John Cena at WrestleMania No match should go on after them, I think they've done enough in their careers to deserve to close the show
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Post by revolver86 on Jan 24, 2014 23:36:41 GMT -5
Yeah, call me stubborn, but anything less than Bryan/Brock for the strap at XXX is gonna make me walk. Even if my favorite, Punk, wins it. To scrap something so potentially awesome as that match is just plain stupid.
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Post by BigWill on Jan 24, 2014 23:39:21 GMT -5
No ones denying the drawing power that the part timers have. But why shouldn't Bryan be the one to actually CLOSE the show? He's earned it. It's his time to shine. Because it's f***ing Undertaker vs. John Cena at WrestleMania No match should go on after them, I think they've done enough in their careers to deserve to close the show Undertaker/Cena isn't happening at Mania, so that argument doesn't really matter.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jan 24, 2014 23:41:05 GMT -5
Because it's f***ing Undertaker vs. John Cena at WrestleMania No match should go on after them, I think they've done enough in their careers to deserve to close the show Undertaker/Cena isn't happening at Mania, so that argument doesn't really matter. If Bryan wins the Rumble and faces Orton, then who does Batista face if Punk faces Triple H? Your options become Cena, Taker, Lesnar, or someone unimportant. Two of those choices have happened already, so I would assume that they'd go with the new match up, which leaves Taker and Cena without opponents
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 24, 2014 23:41:31 GMT -5
Card placement would be less important than them stamping him, at least temporarily as THE GUY. He can have the great "YES!" moment without literally being the last image on the show if he got the title etc.
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Post by BigBadZ on Jan 24, 2014 23:43:21 GMT -5
I doubt Bryan is going to retire or disappear anytime soon, so there is always next year. So don't worry the world won't end if he's not maineventing wrestlemania this year. True. Though if Bryan isn't main-eventing this WrestleMania, then I'm not watching it. Yea, I'm voting with my wallet on this one. Of course with the new system of the Network, I'm gonna put that off for a month or two. I'll catch Raw but I've hit my limit with "wait and see" with DB. I hate they are putting the fire out prematurely like the CM Punk fiasco in 2011. On topic, the part about Triple H not wanting him near the Royal Rumble makes me think it's a work and he'll be in. This is WWE so I won't hold my breath....
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Post by Catchphrase! on Jan 24, 2014 23:48:05 GMT -5
I doubt Bryan is going to retire or disappear anytime soon, so there is always next year. So don't worry the world won't end if he's not maineventing wrestlemania this year. With the WWE shifting its focus toward the rise of Big E. Langston and Roman Reigns, not to mention the inevitable influx of "part-timers" come Mania season, I very much doubt it.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 24, 2014 23:48:10 GMT -5
Card placement would be less important than them stamping him, at least temporarily as THE GUY. He can have the great "YES!" moment without literally being the last image on the show if he got the title etc. I think letting him close the show would be the ultimate sign of him being "The Guy" whether he wrestled in a title match or not.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 24, 2014 23:49:46 GMT -5
Card placement would be less important than them stamping him, at least temporarily as THE GUY. He can have the great "YES!" moment without literally being the last image on the show if he got the title etc. I think letting him close the show would be the ultimate sign of him being "The Guy" whether he wrestled in a title match or not. I agree, I'm just saying conceivably you could do it without it. Plus if he's not winning the title, outside of him ending the streak there's no feasible way for him to close the show.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 24, 2014 23:51:14 GMT -5
I doubt Bryan is going to retire or disappear anytime soon, so there is always next year. So don't worry the world won't end if he's not maineventing wrestlemania this year. With the WWE shifting its focus toward the rise of Big E. Langston and Roman Reigns, not to mention the inevitable influx of "part-timers" come Mania season, I very much doubt it. And even if he will win it later, why wait? He's ultra hot right now. It'd be like telling Austin, eh, you'll win it by Mania XV, you don't need it THIS year.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Jan 25, 2014 0:10:24 GMT -5
Yeah its not that Bryan can't maintain his overness, but why f***ing wait?
I doubt they'll "Ryback" the situation. If Batista is "Rock" this year and they refuse to shift plans to capitalize on a hot star...it's just a huge missed chance.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Jan 25, 2014 0:14:08 GMT -5
True. Though if Bryan isn't main-eventing this WrestleMania, then I'm not watching it. You realize that even if by some miracle he does win and faces Orton that it's not main eventing the show right? That is true. He would likely be third from the top, maybe 4th. But at least his fans would get what they want and everyone would (well, should) be happy. I don't think anyone is naive enough to think that Bryan is bumping Taker and Lesnar or Punk and HHH. Now, if it was Cena vs Bryan II, that'd be a different story. That said, nothing would follow Cena vs. Taker. That'd be a death spot for anyone other than maybe Steve Austin.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Jan 25, 2014 0:17:20 GMT -5
Yeah its not that Bryan can't maintain his governess I sure hope not, we wouldn't want his kids brought up without learning proper etiquette.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Jan 25, 2014 0:19:47 GMT -5
Ah man. Someone quoted and I thought a point was gonna be made. Color me disappointed.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Jan 25, 2014 0:20:31 GMT -5
Yeah its not that Bryan can't maintain his governess, but why f***ing wait? I doubt they'll "Ryback" the situation. If Batista is "Rock" this year and they refuse to shift plans to capitalize on a hot star...it's just a huge missed chance. At least Rock had the advantage of literally saving one WrestleMania from financial disaster (27) and drawing the house at the next, to back up his position. Right now all Dave has is one quarter hour rating with no follow up yet to prove if it was a pattern or an anomaly. You hardly hinge business on that. For example, Warrior once drew the same rating on Nitro for his comeback in '98, but everything reset the next week. Time will tell here. that said, I hope all this isn't because they expect Batista to be some sort of mega movie star with a belt on his shoulder when his movie comes out. It's hardly being drawn on him, and would succeed regardless. He might as well be Kevin Nash in Magic Mike. And they didn't bring his ass back when that went number 1.
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Post by Sparkybob on Jan 25, 2014 0:24:39 GMT -5
My hope is Bryan gets a big match and gets good amount of time during that match to get the fans what they want. Just get him a chance on the big stage to finally get a mania singles match and have the crowd cheer in unison. With Extreme Rules in Seattle, I expect Bryan to be heavily feature for that event.
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Post by The Masked Heel WAS WRONG on Jan 25, 2014 0:50:24 GMT -5
Yeah, call me stubborn, but anything less than Bryan/Brock for the strap at XXX is gonna make me walk. Oh oh oh! We better see Ultimate Warrior vs. The corpse of Randy Savage at Wrestlemania XXX or I'm walking! See? I can make unrealistic expectations, too. I hope your boots are made for walking.
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Post by The Masked Heel WAS WRONG on Jan 25, 2014 0:55:35 GMT -5
Right, so you're saying they should have Batista, the guy who got Raw to average over 5 million viewers in the first hour on Monday, win the Royal Rumble then is what you're saying No, they can have Batista, the guy who got 5 million viewers in the first hour monday, have a huge marquee match with someone significant who means something more to business. You know, a WrestleMania quality match that's epic and original and actually wanted. Not a rehash of a dead stable that means nothing in 2014, with a heatless champion, and a title win that has the potential to not be well received unlike the proper alternative. Batista is already a star. WWE's job is to try and create new stars (like they did in 2005 with Batista) to replace guys like him when he inevitably breaks down or leaves. Batista getting Bryan's shot at Mania would be like Goldberg coming back and getting Batista's in 2005. It would have been clear that Goldberg was the bigger star at the time, but hindsight has shown that going with the organic flow and giving fans the payoff to their emotional effort + solid, strong, protected booking makes STARS. And it did. And does. WWE can have its cake and eat it too. That's the bottom line. Everyone can be used efficiently, correctly and satisfyingly without fear of backlash. By simply rearranging the card, Batista can have a bigger match that won't bomb and get shit on and actually mean something. (vs Lesnar, maybe?). And fans who so emotionally invested themselves in Bryan can get the proper payoff their passion and dedication deserves. Wait...I thought according to people here, Bryan was already a star? You don't need to main event Wrestlemania to be a star. Bryan is already one, people should be happy that he is on TV every week, very over, and doesn't get treated like a chump.
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