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Post by hunterbusax on Mar 13, 2014 13:49:05 GMT -5
I cant remember if it was sandman or Jericho maybe someone else or both that said Vince saw sabu as a "Mans man wrestler" an was completely fascinated whit the guy.
Any truth to this if so that's kind of weird i thought Vince like the body builder types.
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Post by nickcave on Mar 13, 2014 13:50:50 GMT -5
It was the Sandman that Vince was pretty high on, apparently Vince really liked all of the old ECW wrestlers and bought into Heyman's hype.
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Post by hunterbusax on Mar 13, 2014 13:56:03 GMT -5
Now the sandman on raw an potential Gm storyline make sense . If Heyman could convince Vince he can convince anyone
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Mar 13, 2014 15:59:51 GMT -5
Those guys, broken down and old though they were, had SO much potential on the main roster if they'd been used right. Sabu in particular didn't need tables and chairs to have been a scary, insane wrestler, but then I guess once safestyle started in earnest he might've had a dead gimmick.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2014 16:09:37 GMT -5
Vince always loved ECW. Hell the attitude era was basically inspired by ECW
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Post by Essential1 on Mar 13, 2014 17:26:43 GMT -5
They fed Sabu to Cena and that was the end of him.
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Post by thegame415 on Mar 13, 2014 17:36:07 GMT -5
Am I the only one who never really got the Sabu hype?
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Post by imnotbooked on Mar 13, 2014 17:37:08 GMT -5
Vince always loved ECW. Hell the attitude era was basically inspired by ECW While it is true that ECW was a big inspiration for the Attitude Era, I wouldn't say that Vince loved ECW. In countless interviews it has been stated how McMahon very rarely watched any other companies product, and relied very heavily on his inner circle to fill him in on what is going on in other promotions. I would chalk this up to Heyman more then anyone for putting certain guys on the map, and probably Bruce Pritchard (more so then the ol' guard of Patterson, Brisco, Sarge, etc.) religiously following ECW, and in turn bringing edgier ideas to booking meetings. It was the perfect storm. McMahon's more cartoon-y style of booking in 95/96 felt like old hat, and it is much easier to latch on to a hot thing like ECW was at that point.
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Post by 543Y2J on Mar 13, 2014 17:38:40 GMT -5
Chicks dig scars
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Mar 13, 2014 17:39:15 GMT -5
I never understood the appeal of the Sandman. He f***ing sucked.
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Post by Amazing Kitsune on Mar 13, 2014 17:41:13 GMT -5
I never understood the appeal of the Sandman. He f***ing sucked. I never understood it until I saw One Night Stand. If that doesn't sell you on the Sandman, then nothing ever will.
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Post by SkullTrauma on Mar 13, 2014 17:42:10 GMT -5
I never understood the appeal of the Sandman. He f***ing sucked. there's more to being awesome than OMG WORKRATE!
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Post by thegame415 on Mar 13, 2014 17:42:26 GMT -5
I never understood the appeal of the Sandman. He f***ing sucked. I agree with this, too. I guess you have to be a fan of hardcore wrestling? I don't know. He hits a niche.
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Post by Amazing Kitsune on Mar 13, 2014 17:42:39 GMT -5
I remember reading that he absolutely loved Sabu's Wildman gimmick.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2014 17:45:54 GMT -5
Am I the only one who never really got the Sabu hype? Sure didn't help the way his matches were structured in WWE. I mean his jump off the chair springboard spot was always a signature spot for him in ECW, but it wasn't something he did FIFTEEN times a match. It would be like if Punk used his knee in the corner --> bulldog as his main offense, the entire match.
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Mar 13, 2014 17:50:31 GMT -5
I never understood the appeal of the Sandman. He f***ing sucked. I agree with this, too. I guess you have to be a fan of hardcore wrestling? I don't know. He hits a niche. Well, the 14 year old that was me saw the Sandman as an edgier version of Stone Cold, even if Sandman had been doing it earlier than SCSA. I think he was more popular for the chain smoking and his entrance, along with the singapore cane. Wrestling? What the hell is that?
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Post by Starshine on Mar 13, 2014 17:57:46 GMT -5
If McMahon was such a huge Sabu fan I don't see him booking him to tap to Cena like he did.
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Post by 543Y2J on Mar 13, 2014 18:10:49 GMT -5
He could have become a great anti hero for the 'e, in the same vein as Austin, Punk, Shield (currently) etc. As Gizzard posted he is a lot more than just a hardcore wrestler. As far as presence, character, unorthodox appearance he is up there. They could have really used him as a way to oppose binary WWE guys (like Cena but on a larger scale than what they ended up doing) and become one of his most iconic feuds. He didn't even need to say much, just let him go out and be a silent assassin near the uppermid/main event for a few years and watch how he would have taken off. Yes obviously making sure outside of the ring Sabu was able to keep to company policy would have been another thing, but as far as ring work/classic matches, his character, iconography in the WWE and the amount of impact he could have made for the company after his ECW days I don't even think they came close to the potential they could have had from him. ...Yeah I like Sabu
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Post by isink on Mar 13, 2014 18:12:46 GMT -5
Sandman's appeal was the entrance and smoking/drinking. His wrestling was basically getting into a bar fight with a drunk guy who had a cane...
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Post by KobashiChop on Mar 13, 2014 18:16:29 GMT -5
Ive said this about Sabu before.
His matches are an absolute car crash, and they are just a hot mess. But theyre never boring.
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